Originally Posted by TRL505

I was trying to keep this thread from going down this path, but leave it to someone who does not have a dog in this fight to put me in a position where the gloves are now off.

First, you are a misinformed moron. You know ONE side of the story...and it could not be further from the truth. Did you a happen to ask your acquaintance how many times he TRIED to re-build the motors over the last 4 years? The answer is 3. Did you also ask your nutswinging buddy what the solution was each time we would bring the boat back to him? The solution was..."Oh, maybe we should try this, try that, try, try, try"...and each time that try would cost us 30k....and here we are STILL with motors that are blown up....again.

Secondly, we had NO idea (ZERO, ZILCH NONE) that he was using crap Eagle cranks and rods. Why? Because we were never provided an estimate of any sort (Funny how I know EXACTLY what I am getting with YPM...cuz I have this magical document that professionals provide called an ESTIMATE)...I trusted Tyler with an open checkbook...shame on me. And the story of "pleading poverty"...is so far from the truth that its not even funny. Lets see...I own a 250k boat, with over 100k invested in rebuilt junk motors, and a tab still running at RF...yeah...Im really pinching penny's here.

Why would I send my boat to RF and spend the money to do what they have done if money was an issue? Oh, I know why....because the last 4 years it was being worked on by someone who kept phucking it up...thats why. Do you think that a few thousand more dollars for quality parts would make a squirt of pi$$ in the grand total of what we have sunk into this thing?

Next, the idea to go to 540's was NOT mine...again it was a "oh, lets try Dart blocks cuz the Gen 6 OE 502's haven't held together on the last 3 rebuild..so this will do the trick"....WRONG!!!! Again, here I am with blown up engines.

And finally, lets discuss what was discovered during the most recent tear down. 1. A zip tie was stuck between the head and block...I doubt this caused any issues. 2. The wiring looks like something that my 3yr old did. YPM sent me a pic of his finished wiring, and one of what Tyler did...and its an absolute joke as to what we paid for. 3. 3 of the pistons on the motor that recently blew up were non-coated pistons. 4. The whole Eagle crank/rod issue...(see above if you need a re-fresher on that whole ordeal)
I could go on...but I think you get the point.

In my industry people come to me and trust that we will provide them with a quality end product that they can enjoy for years. I dont expect my customers to be experts at what we do...the same should go for engine builders, or any other trade for that matter.
As a customer, I expect to be provided with a product that is built properly, delivered on time, by a builder who stands behind their product and does not make every excuse in the book as to why things went wrong...and to date we have NEVER got that product....EVER.

Regarding the fuel system...yes it is Tylers fault. This should of been caught on one of the last 3 re-builds...end of discussion.

In summary, I dont know who you are or why you felt it necessary to run your mouth about something you know NOTHING about. All I can surmise is that you feel compelled to try and stick up for your buddy....which is fine. However, in the future, before you make a fool of yourself, and spew inaccurate rhetoric about a series of events that you are gravely misinformed about...I suggest you get your facts straight....and stop trying to be a savior for someone who just needs to fess up to the fact that they made a series of botched engine builds.

Again, I apologize to all those who have been following this thread for it to have come to this. However, "Mr. I have an obligation to set Tyler's reputation straight", has forced my hand. I hope that we can all get back on track now and keep a positive outlook on the remainder of the build.

Eric

Originally Posted by onesickpantera

I have read every post on this thread and yes it sounds like a mess. But, I have learned that there are 3 sides to every story.

TRL505, I hope you get to enjoy your boat soon.

Originally Posted by dennyp123

" As for the 3 pistons not having the skirts coated we just do that to help on cold starts and we did not have time to send them out to get coated because you wrote a time shedule that could not be met"


I have never heard anything so ridiculous in all my life. Did you only have a box big enough to send out five (5) pistons to get coated? Did they run out of coating material? Did you balance the rotating assembly with 5 coated and 3 uncoated? Is it your professional opinion that the 3 uncoated pistons did not need "help on cold starts" whereas the other 5 pistons needed such help? I would expect that kind of workmanship on an episode of "junkyard wars", but certainly not from a supposedly well renowned engine builder charging what you charged this man (and I do not even know Eric). Hell, I wouldn't even expect that kind of workmanship from a hack mechanic. I think you cooked your own goose with that statement. You work in a world in thousands of an inch and you are OK with turning over an engine like this and not letting the Owner know about it? Furthermore, I call BS on the "I was being rushed by the customer" excuse. You charged for a premium job, you were paid for a premium job, the man should have gotten a premium job.