Tunnel Ram Engines
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From: Troy, Mich
Originally Posted by 2112
I already have these;
8.9 to 1 compression
one carb
875 horses at 6250 rpm
Fords
8.9 to 1 compression
one carb
875 horses at 6250 rpm
Fords

These engines will have the latest EFI.
Wiggler- engines are in development, going out to SEMA to do some market intelligence next week.
Mrhorsepower- I know you build your own engines, was just testing the waters.
Wannabe
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Originally Posted by wannabe
Carb=Old technology
These engines will have the latest EFI.
Wiggler- engines are in development, going out to SEMA to do some market intelligence next week.
Mrhorsepower- I know you build your own engines, was just testing the waters.
Wannabe
These engines will have the latest EFI.
Wiggler- engines are in development, going out to SEMA to do some market intelligence next week.
Mrhorsepower- I know you build your own engines, was just testing the waters.
Wannabe
What is the name of your company/shop? Or do you work for Sterling? Seen your from Milford,Mi.
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Originally Posted by wannabe
Carb=Old technology
These engines will have the latest EFI.
Wiggler- engines are in development, going out to SEMA to do some market intelligence next week.
Mrhorsepower- I know you build your own engines, was just testing the waters.
Wannabe
These engines will have the latest EFI.
Wiggler- engines are in development, going out to SEMA to do some market intelligence next week.
Mrhorsepower- I know you build your own engines, was just testing the waters.
Wannabe
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Originally Posted by mrhorsepower1
Carbs may be "old" technology but if they where such CaveMan technology Prostock wouldn't making the type of power they do. I wouldn't knock carbs. I can make the same power with a carb than EFI for alot less money. We also currently hold the IHRA World's fastest single 4 barrel record out of my shop @ 6.70 @ 207 with a powerglide trans. NO power adder( NOS , blower ect.) all engine. I do agree EFI is nice and I am doing more and more of it but carbs can still make some AWESOME Horsepower. PM Wannabe with some details on your EFI system.
Wannabe
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With EFI you have to amortize the expense of development over many units of the same design, i.e. cubic inch, heads, cam, rpm, compression ratio, etc. for it to make economic sense.
Then, there is the per unit expense of computer, sensors, throttle body, etc.
Although you may save fuel (in the future), with EFI you have to pay upfront (now)- so the savings are diminished by the time value of money (TVM).
Then there are difficulties diagnosing problems with an EFI engine (for the guy without the laptop and associated hardware/software). And, more sensors and electronics to fail. When the crank sensor fails........you have to be towed. Although the carb runs slightly sub-optimized it may be more reliable.
Pistons are old technology, V8's are old technology, heads with only 2 valves are old technology. Yes fuel injection is ultimately better from a horsepower, fuel efficiency, idle perspective- but- often carbs serve the purpose just fine.....at a reasonable price.
Now back to tunnel rams with carbs/efi.
Then, there is the per unit expense of computer, sensors, throttle body, etc.
Although you may save fuel (in the future), with EFI you have to pay upfront (now)- so the savings are diminished by the time value of money (TVM).
Then there are difficulties diagnosing problems with an EFI engine (for the guy without the laptop and associated hardware/software). And, more sensors and electronics to fail. When the crank sensor fails........you have to be towed. Although the carb runs slightly sub-optimized it may be more reliable.
Pistons are old technology, V8's are old technology, heads with only 2 valves are old technology. Yes fuel injection is ultimately better from a horsepower, fuel efficiency, idle perspective- but- often carbs serve the purpose just fine.....at a reasonable price.
Now back to tunnel rams with carbs/efi.
Last edited by vtec; 10-26-2006 at 07:58 AM. Reason: to correct spelling
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Originally Posted by vtec
With EFI you have to amortize the expense of development over many units of the same design, i.e. cubic inch, heads, cam, rpm, compression ration, etc. for it to make economic sense.
Then, there is the per unit expense of computer, sensors, throttle body, etc.
Although you may save fuel (in the future), with EFI you have to pay upfront (now)- so the savings are diminished by the time value of money (TVM).
Then there are difficulties diagnosing problems with an EFI engine (for the guy without the laptop and associated hardware/software). And, more sensors and electronics to fail. When the crank sensor fails........you have to be towed. Although the carb runs slightly sub-optimized it may be more reliable.
Pistons are old technology, V8's are old technology, heads with only 2 valves are old technology. Yes fuel injection is ultimately better from a horsepower, fuel efficiency, idle perspective- but- often carbs serve the purpose just fine.....at a reasonable price.
Now back to tunnel rams with carbs/efi.
Then, there is the per unit expense of computer, sensors, throttle body, etc.
Although you may save fuel (in the future), with EFI you have to pay upfront (now)- so the savings are diminished by the time value of money (TVM).
Then there are difficulties diagnosing problems with an EFI engine (for the guy without the laptop and associated hardware/software). And, more sensors and electronics to fail. When the crank sensor fails........you have to be towed. Although the carb runs slightly sub-optimized it may be more reliable.
Pistons are old technology, V8's are old technology, heads with only 2 valves are old technology. Yes fuel injection is ultimately better from a horsepower, fuel efficiency, idle perspective- but- often carbs serve the purpose just fine.....at a reasonable price.
Now back to tunnel rams with carbs/efi.
#37
Here's Wette Vette's 598....picked up 4 mph by going from Single plane 1250 Dominator to Tunnel ram and 2X1050 Dominators over the winter in single engine cat....
How's that for a real world comparison...
oh yeah, and the boat accelerates harder just about everywhere (except maybe planing off)
How's that for a real world comparison...
oh yeah, and the boat accelerates harder just about everywhere (except maybe planing off)
Last edited by jdnca1; 10-27-2006 at 03:31 PM.
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Originally Posted by jdnca1
Here's Wette Vette's 598....picked up 4 mph by going from Single plane 1250 Dominator to Tunnel ram and 2X1050 Dominators over the winter with no other changes in single engine cat....
How's that for a real world comparison...
oh yeah, and the boat accelerates harder just about everywhere (except maybe planing off)

How's that for a real world comparison...
oh yeah, and the boat accelerates harder just about everywhere (except maybe planing off)

Wouldnt if the motor had a lot of blowby the evac going to the aircleaner cause detination with the oil getting in the intake charge?
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Originally Posted by Strip Poker 388
sounds like it needed more air
Wouldnt if the motor had a lot of blowby the evac going to the aircleaner cause detination with the oil getting in the intake charge?
Wouldnt if the motor had a lot of blowby the evac going to the aircleaner cause detination with the oil getting in the intake charge?
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From: Troy, Mich
Originally Posted by mrhorsepower1
Wannabe,
What is the name of your company/shop? Or do you work for Sterling? Seen your from Milford,Mi.
What is the name of your company/shop? Or do you work for Sterling? Seen your from Milford,Mi.
Wannabe



