Good point.

sold for 250 more than A YEAR AGO... allmost 2 years

07

http://www.offshoreonlyclassifieds.c...o24134-en.html

and there is a steal of a deal on a 06 39 gun with 850s out there

As long as the seller is holding the title he can do whatever he chooses IMO.
Even being cocky a.k.a hard to bargain with.

you mean this one ??


http://www.offshoreonlyclassifieds.c...o22170-en.html

Or another ?

Not being a fam of those circuspaintjobs of today but yes lets hope these boats doesn´t stand still on the other hand blue is my favourite color.

In fact as Cigarettes start to move then will the whole business IMO.
And who cares if the Dollars is low or high compared to other currencies the bottom line is they gotta move on the market.

Except when he is waisting my time making me think that I am going to get my deal, and then renigs and goes back.

Except it will shortly need service on those 850's at 15-26K each depending on who services them and it is not that much faster than a 700 boat. Buy it and do the service and you will be into it for as much as you can buy a used 07 39 700 boat.

You won't have the bragging rights of the bigger power/#6's but you can have just as much fun.......

Well if he can´t stay behind his word that´s another thing.

Paint was 21K through Cigarette and the guy lives on the water so it is lift stored. No tow vehicle/ no place to store a trailer anyway. So why pay for a used Myco you will never use and have to pay to store it somewhere.......

At the time it was the best priced TG out there when compared to others that were the same money or more money, more hours, older boats. Keep in mind it was a demo situation but at the hands of Steve it wasn't a dealer boat beat to death by the salesman/potential clients.

Blume you have some great inventory and I feel bad you bought some of it/took on trade in much better times and now maybe upside down on the boats. You have nice stuff, priced good but in this market you may have to take a beating since it has been such a roller coaster year in the stock market, real estate market and in the banking industry.

My favorite boat is the 46 RR and the paint is classic Cigarette. If I had the coin that is the one I would want!
Good luck in the new year, maybe Santa will leave you some buyers for those boats.......

First off!!!!!!!!!!!! "Merry Christmas" ..............................Well, rebuilds go for between $12,500.00 to a Mercury rebuild for $22,810.00. Most builders will rebuild them to 1075SCI Mercury specs for $12,500.00 to $18,000.00. The boat has a full cabin with a Vacuflush head and will run around 110 to 112mph with the 850's. The same 39' w/700 will run around 104mph, big difference????? If you rebuild the 850's to 1075's it will run over 120mph. Even with the rebuilds you would be considerably below a 700 boat and a lot faster.

Thanks for all the nice comments, JS. Merry Christmas!!!!...................more pics of the 39' w/850's. FOR SALE!!!!!!!

hey blume santa didnt leave me a glad under my tree!!!!!!!!

dreamer???????????????????????? "SANTA" didn't get any cash!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JS, The Rough Rider is seriously "FOR SALE" and a sweet boat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Dont ya get it Blume, if they keep telling you that its not worth it, they are hoping you believe it:rolleyes:... If you have to worry about the cost of owning it and maintaining it, and that includes overhauls, then honestly you cant afford it...go buy something you can afford to own AND operate...and stop berating the cig owners.

What he said. I am not a cig owner though. :mad:

exactly, it really isnt that hard to figure out, if one is looking at just being able to afford the boat, that really is the least expensive part of owning it, so no matter what you buy for it, can you afford to run it much less maintain it? fuel 500-1000 per weekend (boat and tow), food and drinks for 2 150.00 per weekend, if you trailer ramp fees, 15-40 bucks per weekend, insurance broken down per week 2400 per year is 200 per month. changing oil in motors and drives every 25 hours,150 per side(done by owner) if mechanic does it add 200.

if you blow your wad on just affording the boat, you are screwed elsewhere, then heaven forbid you have a catastrophic failure. but i guess it makes people feel better saying it's too expensive, if they cant afford it anyhow...Merry christmas from the fiscally responsible santa...:)

Toys like these are starting to be toys for the boys who don´t need no credit or banks to buy one.

I´d be blume I´d just shut my ears on comments like these and look for the customers where they are.
There´s loads of people still with money to burn.

Yes there are always people with money to burn, but we have to get them involved in our sport, so they will spend some money on it.

Well said.
Well those who are true racers and love speed do.

Come to Think of it The Willams Formula1 team also competes in sailing ( yes the Willams crew).
And thinking further people like HRH of Sweden, Maroc, Spain, and loads of others are.
Also people ike Briggs Cunningham and a lot of others who are into sailboat racing too do need tenders/ fast boats to get of the racers.
Nowback in the Day Don Aronow did have quite a clientele...
And that´s what Cigarette is all about.
Not just being the ultimate in performance but also a True Namebrand with a Heritage.
So the Sales people at Cig have to be multilingual at least as even the Army at Fort Bragg teaches people to be.

Blume,

That 39 is priced way to high. With it needing rebuilds and everything. My personal opinion is it needs to be sold for about $250,000 to $275,000 that way with rebuilds it is $300,000. I would much rather have a 700 boat with NXT drives and a year newer that does 104 than a 1075 boat with #6 drives that does 120.

Rob there is no such thing as $2400 insurance on a Cigarette in FL. You probably couldn't get a 20' insured for that. There is no winter layup and those pesky problems like hurricanes and theft that tend to hit S. FL. A T/S TG w/ 525's is about 6K with NO windstorm........

that is my price up here, and your statement even more proves my point. there is much more to owning one of these boats than just affording the boat. for people to say to come down on the price because the motors are nearing rebuild is ridiculous. it just another excuse to try to beat the price down or justification for not affording it.
here is a thought, if any of the kickers out there and go up to Blume, with a cash offer of the boat at list price, minus 25-30k for a reputable builder to rebuild them, you probably just bought a boat. my bet is even if he did it, he still wouldn't have any takers. so the motors story is a moot point.

offshoredrillin I was justabout ready to reply to db71 that his opinions doesn´t count unless he makes a valid offer.

Regarding thisboards "advicers" :
Same happened with many other boats here.
Just remember the Apache Warrior, everyone was telling here it´s a POS engines shot etc without even taking a look at it live.
The one who did take a look at it bought it and found the mechanicals just as they were told to be by the seller and someone who actually was familiar with the boat and it´s history.
OSO has gone up sh*t creek.

When I owned my 2000 t/s Cigarette F-2 with 525 efi's my insurance was $3800 until the hurricane here in Florida.
The next year it went up to $8,000.
I have never had a boat insurance claim in my life, and have been boating 40 years.

I agree with your statement 100% .......rebuilds are just another issue to deal with on top of the other expenses which have gotten crazy in the past 5 years....

You got a coupon book or some thing?

I wanna go there- sounds cheap! :cool:

Hot dogs and beer at the fuel stop. If you have some change, maybe a snickers. :grinser010:

Story of your life Mark, story of your life, lol...

Pretty good indicator. I think today this is a 99K boat.

I don't think any of the pre 2004's/ 525 & XR boats should be listed over 145K.

I am going to go ahead and duck behind the couch to dodge the shoes.:party-smiley-004:

It is unfortunate, but if you want to sel something, It has to be priced poperly.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...3AIT&viewitem=

not one bid....

hull 1 42 pr fountain sold for 125k 6-8 months ago

in classifieds for 169

a bank repo!!!!!

$99K???????????? I'll take as many as you can get for that price. You said it, "it has to be priced properly to sell it" and you are right, but just because you have a budget, doesn't mean everything you want to buy is only worth what you can afford............. We might need to start a bayliner forum for you guys.

yes but it went BEFORE the financial meltdown...

some of u have still not come to grips with what these really means in the real world.... not to mention go fast egocentric single male toyland

LOL, good call, Dreamer! Some peeps don't fully understand the magnitude of how bad the boating market really is.

Actually, it has nothing to do with me, I just can't figure out why an 01 can be priced at 169K, and then you see an 03 at 150K, and then you see and 07 at 250K, but then you also see an 04 at 250K also.

There is no continuity.

The bayliner joke is classic though.

REAL WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!...........................your still boatless, biotch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There never has been any continuity in the boat market and there never will be. Very similiar boats always bring different amounts. Just becuase you see a 03 Top Gun get sold for $120k (and I'm making that number up) doesn't mean every 03 Top Gun is worth $120k. I know of a CLEAN 2002 with 575's that sold in the past month for more than they are asking for that 2003. Why? Becuase it was worth more.

It's just like a car, if you have (2) 2003 SL500 that roll through the auction why does one do $31,000 and one do $34,000? Becuase of the color, miles, and the history....same thing with a boat.

I know that you'd like to buy a T/S Gun, but what you think they are worth is just too low (at the current time), and odds are (and I'm not saying ever) you won't find one for what you think they are worth....at this time.

If Rice Hauler could be bought for $99k it would be gone before you even had a chance to think about buying it. That would be a no brainer to anybody. But, as I said to you earlier, find a boat you like...make an offer. They either say yes or no but don't be upset when everyone keeps saying no at the numbers you are thinking.

My $.02