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Old 12-04-2009 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by rmbuilder
The 600 SCI camshaft has become the point of greatest restriction at this point in the testing. The limitations of the 600 SCI camshaft is; compared to the 700 SCI, it has some 18⁰ less intake duration, .056” less lift @ valve (roughly 10%). That being said, the 700 SCI camshaft is significantly less aggressive than the 525 EFI. Cam selection for this series of engines was weighted with a bias toward warranty issues rather than performance.
The very short valve open time and limited valve curtain area builds manifold pressure disproportionately to rate of cylinder fill. In this instance boost is more a measure of restriction than a performance parameter. A swap to a less restrictive camshaft will increase power while decreasing boost relative to output.

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Thanks Bob,

So what you are saying is that with the 600sci cam... boost is building in the manifold, but not getting to the cylinders because of the short duration, and minimal lift of the cam.

This is also exactly what Dustin explained to me.

Makes sense,

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Old 12-04-2009 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Beak Boater
But typically dont you raise the rev-limiter to 5800 rpm with your upgrade? I am assuming that the torque management system is programed to protect the NXT trans. It can he a pain it the butt with a heavily loaded boat.
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Yes, 5850. Yes its in there for protection for people who go right to WOT off idle, never recommended, no matter what
Exactly. They needed a way to protect the ignorant and reduce warranty claims.
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Old 12-04-2009 | 10:20 PM
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Old 12-04-2009 | 11:38 PM
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Merc smartcraft/race view still works.

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So everything will work the exact same and the screen will display all of the vitals through out the added rpm's? And the screen that shows each hour minute second at each rpm will go all the way up to 5800 rpm?
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Old 12-05-2009 | 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by lavey jr
So everything will work the exact same and the screen will display all of the vitals through out the added rpm's? And the screen that shows each hour minute second at each rpm will go all the way up to 5800 rpm?
Yes,

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Old 12-05-2009 | 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Whipple Charged
I really don't know of anyone that's had any problems. We've had a few with water psi issues, but that was the same as stock. So there is no negative feedback to speak of.

Mark knows his stuff for sure!
What kind of water pressure do you want to see

Do you agree that keeping the same props will keep some of the load of the NXT

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Old 12-05-2009 | 09:51 AM
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at least 40 psi at WOT

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Old 12-05-2009 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by gnorthga
What kind of water pressure do you want to see
The smartcraft wants to see between 30-50 psi at wot. If water pressure drops below 28 psi, with the motor being over 4800 rpm, guardian will kick in.

If you are having water pressure issues on either a 600 or 700, contact Dustin directly... he has fixes for this.

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I had big time water pressure problems with my boat in stock form. Dustin helpe me out BIG TIME. The engines would go into guardian mode intermitently throwing overspeed errors even through I was no where close to the rev limiters. Turns out, water pressure is a non-sticky code, meaining it does not show up as an error on the display or in the Freezeframe.

If the water pressure is not at least 20psi at 4,200 rpm's the engine limited power in guardian mode to 70%. Since the engine was still spinning around 4,000 rpm's when the engine issued the Guardian code, it would then issue an overspeed error (70% of 5,400 = 3,780). The next threshold is at 4,800 rpm's, where you need at least 28psi of water pressure, othewise the same probem occurs.

It took hours upon hours of data logging. Neither the dealer tech's nor the Mercury techs could find a problem. I would still be chasing this problem if it was not for Dustin. He calls me the next day and says it is water pressure. I opened up the water channel that feeds my offshore pickups and the problem is solved. The water flow is so good, that had to install pop-off valves that engage at 45psi to bleed of extra pressure, so I would not worry one bit about re-routing the intercooler pickup location in the system or increasing flow to the intercooler with a bigger feed.
Were the motors over heating?

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Yes,

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That's pretty cool. Thanks for all the info, this is a really good thread!!
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