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Old 03-01-2010, 11:14 PM
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If you steal $1000 from 100 people, they all hate you and your know as a crook. If you steal $100,000 from one person but are nice and generous to 99 others, only 1 person knows your a crook and your still a hero with 99 people testying to how great your are on this website and others. I cannot fathom why or how so many people on this board stand up for liars and cheats because they really are "great" people, despite the fact that they screwed over a dozens of people for hundreds of thousands of $$$.

This post has nothing to do with SBI or Geico, just an observation on this industry in general and my personal experience with another company.
I think you just explained it to me very well...it's starting to make a lot more sense now!! What a shame though.
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SBI put that together at no cost to Geico
SBI had nothing to do with that, GEICO set it up and paid for it.
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Since AMF arrived at on the scene, Haggin's money and now Geico's Money has always been spent on promoting the sport!
Unfortunately, as they arrived on the scene so did the vultures,
There are numerous people that have tried to get their hands in the cookie jar.

There are a lot of poser's, and greedy people out there, singling them out is easy, because when the money is all gone so are they.
Actually the vultures were there long before Geico or AMF arrived. Truth be told, the sport originally was populated by racers who could easily provide their own parts, food, and hospitality. In fact there was a vast number of people who would break your arm before allowing you to pick up a dinner check. With that foundation you always had a large number of "hangers on" and groups that became expert at fleecing the race teams, but back then they received Dom Perignon, hotel suites, first class airfare, and in some cases piles of cash. Today you have people who will fall all over you if you give them a lobster tail...or a trim cylinder..... but the big money will always swirl around sponsorship and promotion....... which is only satisfied with television coverage. Once the "real" TV left the sport, the power, and prestige followed it right out the door. Now the promise of a TV package ( hilariously "proven" by a handful of CBS stickers) stirred up an enormous, empty headed windstorm of enthusiasm...and apparently quite a few bucks.....

Bottom line...and with all due respect to the generosity of the well meaning people at AMF..........the only person, organization or team that should be lauded as acting "For the good of the sport" is the one that gets this rolling circus out of the rut it is stuck in. Until then all the (free) balloons, beer, buffets, and borrowed tools aren't worth any more than the pile of bullsh*t laughingly remembered as the CBS TV package.

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Actually the vultures were there long before Geico or AMF arrived. Truth be told, the sport originally was populated by racers who could easily provide their own parts, food, and hospitality. In fact there was a vast number of people who would break your arm before allowing you to pick up a dinner check. With that foundation you always had a large number of "hangers on" and groups that became expert at fleecing the race teams, but back then they received Dom Perignon, hotel suites, first class airfare, and in some cases piles of cash. Today you have people who will fall all over you if you give them a lobster tail...or a trim cylinder..... but the big money will always swirl around sponsorship and promotion....... which is only satisfied with television coverage. Once the "real" TV left the sport, the power, and prestige followed it right out the door. Now the promise of a TV package ( hilariously "proven" by a handful of CBS stickers) stirred up an enormous, empty headed windstorm of enthusiasm...and apparently quite a few bucks.....

Bottom line...and with all due respect to the generosity of the well meaning people at AMF..........the only person, organization or team that should be lauded as acting "For the good of the sport" is the one that gets this rolling circus out of the rut it is stuck in. Until then all the (free) balloons, beer, buffets, and borrowed tools aren't worth any more than the pile of bullsh*t laughingly recalled as the CBS TV package.

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Bingo RL!

And, I might add, that the real show is offshore, running ocean courses. Running laps 100 yards off the beach doesn't excite anyone and makes for poor television.

I used to beat my head against the wall trying to get people to understand the concept that 5 helicopters with cameras will give us 1,000 times the coverage in the middle of the open ocean vs. the menial amount of spectators who would line the various shorelines. Who ever decided that offshore racing should be a "stadium sport" was taking us in the wrong direction, and after years of smaller venues, smaller budgets, and smaller fuel tanks, it will be interesting to see if we, as a sport, can ever return to where we were 20 years ago.

Fortunately, this new breed of turbine powered super cat can weather the open water and with the backdrop of a landless open sea, the average viewer will have a hard time changing the channel.

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Fortunately, this new breed of turbine powered super cat can weather the open water and with the backdrop of a landless open sea, the average viewer will have a hard time changing the channel.

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Unless they explode in a cauldron of blood, aviation fuel and salt spray. Few remember that the Unlimited hydros lost at least 10 years of coverage as a result of two consecutive network broadcast races back in the mid 60's ("Black Sunday" and the following race) in which four drivers were killed in 3 separate accidents.

200 mph may be amazing.....but death gets chased from mainstream TV.

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Unless they explode in a cauldron of blood, aviation fuel and salt spray. Few remember that the Unlimited hydros lost at least 10 years of coverage by two consecutive network broadcasts back in the mid 60's ("Black Sunday" and the follow up) in which multiple drivers were killed. 200 mph may be amazing.....but death gets chased from mainstream TV.
Few understand the concept of speed/ size ratio. I know you do. The time for 60' cats with 17' beams is now. Yes, the 200 mph speeds are concerning, but the bigger the boat, the safer the speed. This could bring the sport back to South Florida in a self induced captivity, as these new, super cats would be too big to travel over the roads.
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Actually the vultures were there long before Geico or AMF arrived. Truth be told, the sport originally was populated by racers who could easily provide their own parts, food, and hospitality. In fact there was a vast number of people who would break your arm before allowing you to pick up a dinner check. With that foundation you always had a large number of "hangers on" and groups that became expert at fleecing the race teams, but back then they received Dom Perignon, hotel suites, first class airfare, and in some cases piles of cash. Today you have people who will fall all over you if you give them a lobster tail...or a trim cylinder..... but the big money will always swirl around sponsorship and promotion....... which is only satisfied with television coverage. Once the "real" TV left the sport, the power, and prestige followed it right out the door. Now the promise of a TV package ( hilariously "proven" by a handful of CBS stickers) stirred up an enormous, empty headed windstorm of enthusiasm...and apparently quite a few bucks.....

Bottom line...and with all due respect to the generosity of the well meaning people at AMF..........the only person, organization or team that should be lauded as acting "For the good of the sport" is the one that gets this rolling circus out of the rut it is stuck in. Until then all the (free) balloons, beer, buffets, and borrowed tools aren't worth any more than the pile of bullsh*t laughingly remembered as the CBS TV package.

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Yea, I realize the vulture's were always there! just the name's have changed to protect the innocent!
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Yes - Years ago he would tie one to my truck at Point Pleasant - the leash was at least 1 1/4 inch in diameter - um.... that lasted about 10 minutes-

Richie is NO ONE TO FOOL with ! - He does not get mad - he gets EVEN - ( he used to say - "who let the dawgs out" )

Now you all know why he was my narrator for such a long time - he used to bring the dawgs with him at times - !

Just ask Rich to give you a "up close, and personal" evaluation ! but Sit down for this - ! you will die laughing !

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You have 6 Rotweilers?
yessir.......

But, a couple thnk they are a Yorkie's....and crawl up in my lap when I watch TV.....This leads to some "crushing" moments.


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