Oil spill in the gulf of Mexico
07-15-2010 | 04:42 PM
#752
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From: Chesapeake, Va.
This spill happened in 1979
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ixtoc_I_oil_spill
Prince William Sound
http://response.restoration.noaa.gov...topic_topic)=1
http://response.restoration.noaa.gov...topic_topic)=1
07-15-2010 | 04:48 PM
#753
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From: Beautiful Fort Lauderdale www.cheetahcat.com
The difference between Prince William Sound and the Gulf is the temperature and it's a HUGE difference. Oil spills in cold climates are far, far worse than warm climates. In cold climates the crude congeals and sinks to the bottom, in wam climates it disperses and is more easily attacked by microbs. Recovery is much faster.
This spill happened in 1979
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ixtoc_I_oil_spill
Prince William Sound
http://response.restoration.noaa.gov...topic_topic)=1
http://response.restoration.noaa.gov...topic_topic)=1
This spill happened in 1979
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ixtoc_I_oil_spill
Prince William Sound
http://response.restoration.noaa.gov...topic_topic)=1
http://response.restoration.noaa.gov...topic_topic)=1
07-16-2010 | 02:21 PM
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07-17-2010 | 10:08 PM
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Subject: Industry Push 17Jul2010
*UPDATES*
*Panama City, FL: Panama City at St. Andrew's Pass remains open with no restrictions. The deployment of booms around the installed pilings will not impede traffic. The expected completion of the piling and boom construction is now 19Jul2010. The boom testing exercise scheduled for 19Jul2010 at St. Andrews Pass in Panama City FL is postponed until further notice.
*Walton County: As of 7/10/10 boom had been prepositioned at Tucker Bayou and ready for deployment in the event of oil impact. The boom is currently not impacting the ICW and is pending approval.
Good afternoon,
-All ports remain open with no restrictions; the ICW remains open with no restrictions.
-To date, the Mobile MTSRU has facilitated the decontamination of 6 commercial vessels.
-The Tuesday and Thursday Industry Conference Call number has changed beginning 08Jul2010. The new number is 251.445.1600. The conference pin is 92030#. The conference call time of 1400 (2:00 pm) is still the same.
-There is a safety zone now in effect in the Mobile COTP zone. Vessels may not come within 20m of booming operations, boom, or oil spill response organizations under penalty of law. In areas where vessels cannot avoid the 20m rule, they are required to be cautious of boom and boom operations by transiting at a safe speed and distance.
-The increased threat of oil within the ICW exists, as a result we are seeing more vessels that may require visual inspection and/or gross decontamination. It is important to note that visual inspections and gross decontamination will start 30 minutes after sunrise and secure 30 minutes before sunset so vessel Captains should plan their transits accordingly. Please be aware that if there is ANY doubt as to the condition of the vessels hull, the barges hull, and/or the areas in between a visual inspection must be completed.
-The following is a link to the Homeport Mobile, AL site: http://homeport.uscg.mil/mycg/portal...Id=1&cotpId=37 . The website lists port status as well as all MSIB's. We encourage you to use this in conjunction w/e-mail and phone contact to answer any questions or concerns.
-Please be advised that the self-assessment forms and decontamination procedural processes must be used to ensure timely tracking of vessels and allocation of resources for decontamination. All vessels entering port must complete and fax/e-mail the assessment 6 hours prior to arrival; if the vessel is sheening, the vessel MUST proceed through gross decontamination before entry will be allowed into port.
In addition the following Bay's and Pass's have restricted navigation as listed:
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MISSISSIPPI:
- Bay St. Louis: Bay closed to all vessel traffic. Boom movement will be coordinated on marine VHF channels 13 and 16.
- Biloxi Bay: Biloxi Bay near the southeastern portion of Deer Island due to booming operations. This area will be closed during flood tide and open during ebb. Movement of the boom can be coordinated with BP contracted vessels on marine VHF channels 13 and 16.
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ALABAMA:
- Perdido Pass: Closed to all vessel traffic during flood tide, open during ebb tide.
- Weeks Bay: Closed to all vessel traffic. Boom movement will be coordinated on marine VHF channel 16.
- Dog River: Closed to all vessel traffic during flood tide. Boom movement will be coordinated on marine VHF channel 16.
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FLORIDA:
- Destin Pass: During an imminent threat of oil the pass will be closed during flood tide; until that time it will be open to all vessels during both flood and ebb tides. Boom movement will be coordinated on marine VHF channels 16, 68, and 78.
- Pensacola Pass: During an imminent threat of oil the pass will be closed during flood tide; until that time it will be open to all vessels during both flood and ebb tides. Boom movement will be coordinated on marine VHF channels 16, 68, and 78.
- Walton County: As of 7/10/10 boom had been prepositioned at Tucker Bayou and ready for deployment in the event of oil impact. The boom is currently not impacting the ICW and is pending approval.
- Panama City, FL: Panama City at St. Andrew's Pass remains open with no restrictions. The deployment of booms around the installed pilings will not impede traffic. The expected completion of the piling and boom construction is now 19Jul2010. The boom testing exercise scheduled for 19Jul2010 at St. Andrews Pass in Panama City FL is postponed until further notice.
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Thank you
-ICP MTSRU MOBILE
Subject: Industry Push 17Jul2010
*UPDATES*
*Panama City, FL: Panama City at St. Andrew's Pass remains open with no restrictions. The deployment of booms around the installed pilings will not impede traffic. The expected completion of the piling and boom construction is now 19Jul2010. The boom testing exercise scheduled for 19Jul2010 at St. Andrews Pass in Panama City FL is postponed until further notice.
*Walton County: As of 7/10/10 boom had been prepositioned at Tucker Bayou and ready for deployment in the event of oil impact. The boom is currently not impacting the ICW and is pending approval.
Good afternoon,
-All ports remain open with no restrictions; the ICW remains open with no restrictions.
-To date, the Mobile MTSRU has facilitated the decontamination of 6 commercial vessels.
-The Tuesday and Thursday Industry Conference Call number has changed beginning 08Jul2010. The new number is 251.445.1600. The conference pin is 92030#. The conference call time of 1400 (2:00 pm) is still the same.
-There is a safety zone now in effect in the Mobile COTP zone. Vessels may not come within 20m of booming operations, boom, or oil spill response organizations under penalty of law. In areas where vessels cannot avoid the 20m rule, they are required to be cautious of boom and boom operations by transiting at a safe speed and distance.
-The increased threat of oil within the ICW exists, as a result we are seeing more vessels that may require visual inspection and/or gross decontamination. It is important to note that visual inspections and gross decontamination will start 30 minutes after sunrise and secure 30 minutes before sunset so vessel Captains should plan their transits accordingly. Please be aware that if there is ANY doubt as to the condition of the vessels hull, the barges hull, and/or the areas in between a visual inspection must be completed.
-The following is a link to the Homeport Mobile, AL site: http://homeport.uscg.mil/mycg/portal...Id=1&cotpId=37 . The website lists port status as well as all MSIB's. We encourage you to use this in conjunction w/e-mail and phone contact to answer any questions or concerns.
-Please be advised that the self-assessment forms and decontamination procedural processes must be used to ensure timely tracking of vessels and allocation of resources for decontamination. All vessels entering port must complete and fax/e-mail the assessment 6 hours prior to arrival; if the vessel is sheening, the vessel MUST proceed through gross decontamination before entry will be allowed into port.
In addition the following Bay's and Pass's have restricted navigation as listed:
========================
MISSISSIPPI:
- Bay St. Louis: Bay closed to all vessel traffic. Boom movement will be coordinated on marine VHF channels 13 and 16.
- Biloxi Bay: Biloxi Bay near the southeastern portion of Deer Island due to booming operations. This area will be closed during flood tide and open during ebb. Movement of the boom can be coordinated with BP contracted vessels on marine VHF channels 13 and 16.
========================
ALABAMA:
- Perdido Pass: Closed to all vessel traffic during flood tide, open during ebb tide.
- Weeks Bay: Closed to all vessel traffic. Boom movement will be coordinated on marine VHF channel 16.
- Dog River: Closed to all vessel traffic during flood tide. Boom movement will be coordinated on marine VHF channel 16.
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FLORIDA:
- Destin Pass: During an imminent threat of oil the pass will be closed during flood tide; until that time it will be open to all vessels during both flood and ebb tides. Boom movement will be coordinated on marine VHF channels 16, 68, and 78.
- Pensacola Pass: During an imminent threat of oil the pass will be closed during flood tide; until that time it will be open to all vessels during both flood and ebb tides. Boom movement will be coordinated on marine VHF channels 16, 68, and 78.
- Walton County: As of 7/10/10 boom had been prepositioned at Tucker Bayou and ready for deployment in the event of oil impact. The boom is currently not impacting the ICW and is pending approval.
- Panama City, FL: Panama City at St. Andrew's Pass remains open with no restrictions. The deployment of booms around the installed pilings will not impede traffic. The expected completion of the piling and boom construction is now 19Jul2010. The boom testing exercise scheduled for 19Jul2010 at St. Andrews Pass in Panama City FL is postponed until further notice.
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Thank you
-ICP MTSRU MOBILE
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07-18-2010 | 10:45 PM
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From: North Carolina
07-19-2010 | 12:05 AM
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From: Ft. lauderdale/ STJ,VI
The government wants bp to open th well again. They want to get a flow rate so they have and idea of how much leaked out so they know how much to fine them.
Since the well has been shut, there is a possibility of sand build up, if the well is opened for the 48 hours, it migh not be able to be cloesed again. What happens when you have oil sand and gas shooting t 7000 psi? You can cut through some serious sh!t. It can slice through all the lines valves and jumpers and we will be screwed for life.
They can do the same flow rate check with the q4000. They have the pressure in the well, we have the ability to rate our flow, then subtract that from the well pressure differences.
Since the well has been shut, there is a possibility of sand build up, if the well is opened for the 48 hours, it migh not be able to be cloesed again. What happens when you have oil sand and gas shooting t 7000 psi? You can cut through some serious sh!t. It can slice through all the lines valves and jumpers and we will be screwed for life.
They can do the same flow rate check with the q4000. They have the pressure in the well, we have the ability to rate our flow, then subtract that from the well pressure differences.
07-20-2010 | 02:05 AM
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From: Arlington Tx
"The source of our despair in the Gulf"
