awesome post...

very classy Stu! :ernaehrung004::ernaehrung004:

How many official "records" does OL hold now?

Very true long island is more an oval shape than a circle:lolhit:

It's a good endorsement for Ilmor that the drivetrain held up the whole way. Any word on the cause of the DNF's of the other boats?

+ 1...again!

Drive : (
Congrats to the new record holders!!
Thanks to Billy and Charlie for making it happen and all who showed up and raced, great time!

Congrats to the new record holders!!

Little red Donzi/Monza had an ignition problem....boat shut down while running. The 42' Outerlimits (orange one w/ 1075's) i think had an engine issue? Not sure. The 30' Sonic broke a drive. The 25' Active Thunder had a gasket issue and needed fuel????

You're such a douche bag it's not even funny.

Congrats to Mike and the boys for a job well done !

Congrats to all who ran! Your all winners! :party-smiley-048::party-smiley-048::party-smiley-048:

That's very cool :D

X2 !!

How am I a douche? Last year, sonic powerboats (Tony F) put together a nice sonic gift bag for the winner. (Joe defusco). While it's not nessecary to do, I would think a top notch company like OL would do the same. It's great publicity for the company. And since our boy Dan has all the in's, I figured he could set something up. Respect and gratitude goes both ways mastercraft.

And my post was more rhetorical than anything...I just hope OL takes care of the winners (not that it's any of my business or anyone elses for that matter).

Whose power and drives were in the winning boat ?

:party-smiley-004:

Funny LOL

I'll reword the question.....what power was in the winning boat and what drives?

Impressive to run that speed for those hours.

What was water conditions ?

Ilmor 725's with Indy drives

That was in the OS poker run. Very cool.

Thank you

Kudos to that combo. Very impressive with those speeds.

What were water conditions like around the course ?

Anything in way of rough water ?

Knots/mph
 

Kattack is presented in Knots not MPH. for a clearer understanding refer to the following.
Knots versus Miles per Hour - NASA:
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...ts_vs_mph.html

The record was real. And I love Stuey Hayim.

Let's not forget the second record broken on Sunday.
That would be the Outboard record. Smashed from 5 hr 26 min by an hour and 11 min. And that was in a Fountain Fishboat folks with 4 Merc 300s. Team Roadrunner with Norm Salem, Owner/driver and Bob Kohlenberg, on the throttles did it in 4 hr 15 min. I was onboard and believe me that one is most definitely real.
Incidently, haven't even looked at Kattack, which I will in depth when I edit the piece for TV and promo, however, after we made the turn at Montauk and faced the HUGE breakers and got settled in on the South shore run we got back to averaging 60 mph (that's about 52 knots). Joe has a bit more seat time, so I'm pretty sure he did better than that.

Hey, be happy Billy Frenz is actually bringing something huge to the sport (as he always has)...something the sports needs, which is new direction.

Again congrats to both Joe's, Ilmor and OL! Blowing away the OB record was also very impressive, so congrats to them as well!!!

Conditions in LIS were 1' or less and 3-4' on the south side according to the marine data when I looked yesterday.

Thanks

Does anyone know if there was onsite viewership at the start finish or at the fuel stop ?
All the participants put a lot of effort into this.

More so perhaps by the guys that had to drive and pick up their broken boats part way around the course.

Kudos to all.

Thanks for the correction. Bob

Nice package!

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp8HIPDFcgs[/YOUTUBE]

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98X6DYwOEow[/YOUTUBE]

Real ocean racing over long distance is a very different animal than other kinds of racing. Some of the conditions that the crew has to keep in mind are:

You can't win unless you finish. This means you can't go all out from the start and leave nothing in reserve. This is often the reason that slower boats often win big events.

How much fuel does your boat really use in these conditions. Will you have enough to make it all the way.....or be a wonder for most of the race and then run out 5 miles from the end?

Navigation at high speed is not easy on any day of the week, but then you add in some of the weather problems of yesterday and it becomes a nightmare. As they approached Montauk, they ran into a heavy fog bank.

Not being able to see too far in front of them, they relied on the GPS on the dash, only to discover that it showed the boat actually on land......How close were they to a beach that they couldn't see?

The waves were typical Montauk. When they set off down the beach, they had to constantly try to figure how fast for fuel consumption and how fast to win.

To give you an idea that at some point they decided to go for it, when they were approaching the Verrazano Bridge, we left the dock at La Motta's to bring the checkered flag for the finish.

They came all the way into the harbor past Staten Island, up East
River, under the remaining bridges, Throgs Neck, Whitestone.... and we barley made it to the finish line to greet them.

They took on a lot of unknowns and did the best they could with it and proved it can still be done. I think they may have also gained some new idea of why guys like Don Aronow and Sam Griffith are so revered.....to win these open ocean races, you needed to be tough and smart....just like these two guys yesterday. Congrats to them.

Congrats to all that finished, participated and the organizers great event.

All for the love of the sport!

Congratulations to not only the winners, but all of the participants and everyone that helped set this up. I can only hope that this is the beginning of offshore racing returning to offshore. Judging by the number of posts and views on this thread versus threads regarding this weekends inshore race, I would say there is definitely a lot of interest here.

I would love to see the real NJ offshore race take place. Either the 80's shortened course (about 150 miles) or the original course which went out to Fire Island and was over 200 miles.

Welcome back offshore racing!

When I watched for a bit on the tracking set up I saw that the boats stayed in groups somewhat and maybe I'm mistaken but thought I saw the Monza /Sonic stop or slow and stay together fairly soon after the start.

The natural tendency is to help one another when someone breaks but since this is set up as a race, then I presume that doesnt happen.
What was organized to aid any of the guys that if they broke and were totally dead in the water or were taking on water, to retrieve them if need be ?
Were they out there totally on there own?
Did each have to organize their own rescues if needed?

I see that those that broke got themselves into shore, but what if they couldnt.
Was there provision for help?

I hope your questions do not go unanswered, I am sure this is a pretty important one to answer to grow the field.

Thats why I am asking. The event turned out without incident and now has some legs re enthusiasm.

Maybe next year with good promotion it will be bigger, but it would help get more peeps if there was some retrieval organized.

I thought the tracking set up was great. That helped for sure with people getting to follow the event.

The whole thing is missing the boat though( excuse the pun).

HORBA is a volunteer organization and looks for help or funds to fullfill their goals. Currently there is a project boat that is in need of $$.

If there was no awards dinner and the sole cost is promotion and the tracking system, I dont see why a third party is charging 6k for six boats.

I bet if the start/finish was handled by volunteers and there was an organized HELP system for broken boats AND the funds went to HORBA for ongoing projects, the turnout would be much greater.

But again KUDOS for those that participated.

Congrats to the winners and organizers..sounds like OL makes a helluva boat!! Wish I could run in the event someday.

My guess is it will be hard to make something financially viable with a race of that nature, or any boat races for that (offshore I mean) matter, the pool of consumers is just too small.

All nautical racing exists currently due to the passion of individuals and commitments of entities either willing to fund and racers willing to write a check. I think it has always been like that even in the 60's and 70's.

Congrats to all that put forth the effort.

Thanks to the organizers and participants for giving us fans an event to enjoy.

Record Comparsion
 

Charlie,I wonder if you can clarify the following.

I take the 2011 course was the same as 2010 i.e. 271 statute miles,and with a 3hr 5 min time this is pretty impressive motoring for a mono with,I take it 1420 hp?

The thing I find amazing is the 1989 Hayim record of 3hr 6 min,which if it was on the same course of 271 statute miles,seems again pretty impressive considering it must have been in one of the first skater cats, which for a 32ft skater in 1989 would have averaged circa 85mph in a race (similar to Agitator),let alone a race twice that length,with say 1200hp.

I find no mention of the 1989 course length or engine size in the data you showed when listing all the records.Maybe Mr.Hayim can give a definative answer as well.

I agree with you about the viability comment.

I'm not saying someone is being cheap by not having an awards dinner or some function for participants and viewers. In fact because of the type of event it is , its hardly doable because half the participants are out hunting for where their boat broke down and retrieving it.

My point is, because HORBA is announcing and promoting the event, and because the participants are entering because they are enthused in duplicating the old style racing I think if they had a way of helping people that really needed aid out on the water( water that they have little personal knowledge of ) they may get more entrants.

HORBA serves a function in our hobby and I think its great that they exist. They will always need $$$ to do what they do.

But because the event is what it is and difficult to have a function attached to it and more importantly the people arent even entering to attend a function , I dont see where and why 6k had to go to a third party.

If you give anyone 20% profit, where did $ 3800.00 get spent here, that couldnt have been handled by volunteers?

If this event was promoted solely by a non HORBA entity then you go or not go. If you want someone to make $$ off your effort, so be it, BUT HORBA was involved and HORBA can use the $$$ and I dont think they need anyone in the middle collecting it.

It was a great event with 6 boats. Would be even greater with 20. And it would be fantastic if the entity that is keeping memories alive around here got all the dough.

Sure do... maybe next year we will see some Nortechs and Apaches too not forgettin a load of others!

Congrats to Outerlimits, Ilmor, and both Joe's!!!!
Great work everyone!!