Which boat is that in your avitar? cant tell.

Shadow cat I believe.

It's a 30 foot Chris Cat. My Dad had one as a pleasure boat when us kids were growing up. Such a cool boat!

I totally agree......that is my point.....I would think Mercury Racing or a Builder like Skater would like to see that record as theirs.....hopefully then a few more boats would show up next year....As a matter of fact I think the record would help a custom engine builder more then one of the big guys.......when a boat can run all out for that distance it says something about their product......

No apology necessary, we are all working together on this.

Here is what we are trying to do.......
HORBA set out as it's goals:
1.) To save the old race boats before they are cut up and thrown away.
2.) To have some venues that the old boats could be seen and the new competitors have a chance to race real open ocean racing like the old days.
3.) We wanted to have courses that would be at least 200 miles for a minimum.
4.) We wanted dates far enough apart, that would allow the owners of the boats racing, not to take a lot of time away from their businesses.
5.) We wanted different geographical locations, like the old days.
6.) We wanted to create an atmosphere that anyone would be welcome. If you come with an 18 foot Donzi or the latest 50 foot behomoth, you were a racer and you are one of us.

I have been getting some interesting calls since this race happened a few days ago and here is what I have told them for dates and locations.

Northeast....September 3rd week. Don Aronow Memorial Around Long Island race, 271 miles. This is a dead week for sports news. The World Series hasn't begun, football is just getting started, the US Open is over and the papers will be hungry for any new kind of sports news. A sponsor could dominate the NY metro area with their name as sponsor of this race in this time slot.

Southeast....November. The weekend before the racing week starts in Key West. Fort Lauderdale to Key West 200 miles.
It does not interfere with either the racing or the poker run that all come after this date.

West Coast.....April.....Long Beach to San Francisco. 439 miles. The weekend before the Desert Storm Poker Run. At the end of April a lot of people take their boats back home from Florida, some go to the Desert Storm, so why not do a race too.

A three race circuit with plenty of time between races to pay attention to your business.

HORBA has a location in Florida that any teams that run the NY race in September, can store their boat and go to OFF in October and then bring you r boat to Fort Lauderdale for the November race.

HORBA will give you 910 miles of racing for the year and a chance to see plenty of the country...BTW the San Fran race was won in the past by a Formula 233 with a single engine for power.

There was mention earlier of a race on Lake Michigan as well. Any thought to that?

Loving these ideas strictly as a fan at this point. Thanks!

I really think if HORBA joined forces with OPA they would really be on to something....

Always get a total kick out of the offshore comparisons, kinda like trying to argue whats best drag baja indy nascar, etc.

Like to see how many of the old timers would willing to take the corners that today's racers do! Running 50 in big waves is one thing, taking a turn at 150 (hell 70!) is another!!!

Glad to see this race a success. My recommendation (and take it as just that) is to run these along side an OPA, etc and make it a big event! Would be cool to run these guys on saturday then have the other classes run sunday. Race weekends could use more going on for the fans.

Sunny Isles for the Bimini run as usual
Long Island race for your Don Aronow Memorial
Port Huron for your Great Lakes Run

Add in a poker run both on land and water and now THAT would be three GREAT adrenaline fueled weekends!!!!

It's been a great week all around for V-10's.

Dodge Viper SRT10® ACR Reclaims Production Car Lap Record at Nurburgring With 7:12.13

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Veteran GT driver Dominik Farnbacher pilots street-legal, 600-horsepower 2010 Dodge Viper SRT10 ACR (American Club Racer) to new record lap at the world's most demanding road course – the famed 12.9-mile Nurburgring Nordschleife (north course)

Sorry for the off topic - congrats to the winners

:coolcowboy:

Thats equivalent to the Oreca Prepared FIA GT3 racers I've crewed. Great News!

Well said !!!

Any info on the outboard boat? Was it a 38 Fountain center console?

Yes, with 4 300XS OB's.

And it has been the last 20yrs overhere....Kurts boat that is.

Sorry for off topic.

That is very impressive. To go that fast, that far, with no mechanical problems, have enough fuel, and battle a fog bank, that is really a helluva accomplishment; in a pleasure boat too. I am a real fan of this race/long disatnce run around LI. That 43' OL is a really nice boat.

So who who will tackle the Miami to NY run? Time for that record to fall.

Isn't it enough that Joe Sgro was in the boat representing Outerlimits, especially in this economy. Also I really think attacking Dan was way off base and totally uncalled for!

No comment for the purpose of keeping this thread "on track".

Winning the event and lasting mechanically is a victory in itself.

Winning the event, surviving mechanically and beating a very long time standing record is a whole nother level of victory! :drink:

Congrats to all big and small, past and present.



Jon

Congrats should also be given to Mr. Mike Fiore for his vision and drive to build these incredible boats. Outerlimits was and still is ahead of there competion IMHO. Congrats to everyone involved.

Didn't feel like getting into some of the BS posts on here, but congrats to everyone entered and great job to the winners.
But.. since it's an OL, thread... :) anyone want to see Mike and me in 96 on his yellow cat diesel powered boat... running in the Michigan? pier 33/Thunder Marine PR?
I have the VCR, yup it's a VCR, if anyone can copy the VCR vid to CD or whatever, I will send the VCR and the pics or vids can be posted. Mike looked a lot younger.. and so did I. lol

Well, it's OSO so no surprise to me.... It's too bad your thread was hijacked and thrown off course...

Glad you got the race off this year and congratulations to all involved, especially OL and both Joe's!:drink:

You don't think Key West gets worldwide press? Buzzi goes there to race. Even the Class1 guys race Key West.

Kudos to Charlie and Billy for pulling this off and getting this much interest!
Congrats to the two Joes and Outerlimits.
I love it and if the boating Gods (and my wife) are all in agreement, I plan on running it next year.
Growing up on the Jersey Shore watching the Benihanna in the 1970's and going to boat shows each year drooling over the go-fast boats, I always wanted to race offshore. I was the guy wearing a Cigarette jacket in high school instead of a letterman jacket! In college I got the opportunity to run with team Kamikaze (A-33) in US Offshore. That sealed it for me. Long story short, as I grew in years and boat size, I leaned more to poker runs then racing for a few reasons. First, I could set my schedule and not spend 1/2 the year trailering around the country, the maintenance cost of running 110% every weekend is not in my budget, and I don't like the newer courses running rubrail to rubrail.
This is just my opinion.
That said, The idea of running an endurance race is VERY appealing to me. I have the boat and crew to do it and hopefully next year, I will have the time.
Thanks for bringing this back and I hope to get a chance to run it next year!

Personally I don't think many people give a crap. In my circle of friends and acquaintances of offshore boaters, none of them go to or even talk about racing. Poker runs are another thing.

So you get a few thousand down there and there's some pomp and parades, this sport is mostly a fringe event that the general populace is unaware of. There's so much wrong with it that it's not a viable marketing event. No disrespect from those who have passion for the sport and pour their hearts and finances into it.

Key West is a perfect vacation spot and a season ender globally, plus it somewhat still holds the racecourse offshore.

Weather is a major factor!Unity well you know:eek:Any way nice job!

I think Poker Runs appeal to more boaters due to the social nature of the event. I know it does for me.

And then there' s racers who think just the same you wrote about poker runs....which ain't even a race.

Personally I don't even take a second look on pleasure boats , used to but not anymore same goes with cars, bikes are the only things I look different, and that prolly changes too sometime.

thats true. point well taken. maybe the lack of races is the reason why boaters have no interest? personally i would be interested in one, if the course were shorter (50-80 miles). something like newport to CT River or Prov to BI. Also the boats would have to be seperated into classes. A 30' boat competing against 40'+ is hardly fair. just my 0.02

Then you're the fringe of the fringe. Not a bad thing but your not addressing the previous point of the popularity of the sport.

OPA does.



Congrats to all involved!

The date for next year's Third Annual Don Aronow Memorial Around Long Island Race is September 22, 2012.

Plenty of time to prepare............

Now is the time to start getting ready....make a plan, make a checklist, start today....before you know it... it will be here.

There will be a entry and deposit cut off date for this race in 2012. Deposits must be in by that date. Definite date will be published later, probably April or May of next year.

Good luck with your decision on hull and power.....now that it has been done non-stop, that sets the new standard for the overall winner to shoot for.

Same pricing? Early entry discount still applicable with the new deposit policy?

Why not make it on a weekend that Doesnt conflict with other boating events? Thats why we couldnt make it. I bet youd gain a few OPA boats

Any word from Joe and Joe on how the ride was? Were they comfortable? They were in there a long time. Any issues, or was it problem free?

For the past two years Billy and Charlie have contacted OPA in advance to find an open date.......

Both years the date was later scheduled by OPA.........

I wonder if a vibrant NPBA/HORBA event is really complimentary to OPA's business plan? If a bunch of OPA guys get a taste for unrestricted ocean racing....does that bode well for GPS circle racing? Personally I would discourage NPBA from having a joint sanction if the GPS speed rules are included in a 200 plus mile race where you might cross the finish line first only to be penalized because you "broke out".

Bottom line the conflict with OPA race dates is not NPBA/Horba's fault....... and I wonder if you could get a "guaranteed" open date from your leadership? It hasn't worked so far...and I don't believe in coincidences.

maybe my memory fails me but didnt last year NPBA schedule only to have OPA book. then NPBA changed its date and so did OPA.

i guess if there is any vindication the OPA race was canceled/high seas and NPBA ran.

:)

With all due respect......for the first year, we set a date. We were contacted and asked if we wouldmove that date, because it conflicted with a race date that had already been planned and scheduled.

We moved the date per the request. As the time got closer, guess what...the other organization changed their pre scheduled date to the same date we had.

This year, we set the date very early as we are doing again....so everyone would know the date and perhaps consider it, when they scheduled their own and secondly, to allow any European teams runnng in Cowes, to be able to do Cowes and have time to ship over for this race.

Guess what.....the other organization set their race date on the same date we did...... and no Europeans showed up.

So once again with all due respect, this is our date....Sept 22, 2012, we have an endurance event that takes a different boat than the shore racing does. Everyone is welcome, but we are over moving our date to try to satisfy anyone else.

mike d lets team up and run the pantera, i will help out with the costs and i can get 100ll fuel for 6.00 a gallon.:drink:

You have set your dates one year in advance. While in a perfect world no other organization would schedule on top of your event, you can't count on that, at least if we're using history as you described it as a guide. You've already done the best thing you can to protect your event by setting the date early. Strong move.