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1MOSES1 10-21-2011 09:05 PM

in reading all of these OL and sutphen nut hugging threads...im starting to wonder why all the other boat companies dont just fold and throw in the towel. i mean by the sounds of it..they will certainly never match up to that of the almighty OL or sutphen!!!! haha.

these boats dont just go fast...they hover over water. haha :bsflag:

Boxer 10-21-2011 09:53 PM


Originally Posted by kreed (Post 3533374)
When you say the water is trash, you talkin 2 to 4's or 4 to 6's or bigger? I hear stories of pleasure boaters on here all the time say they run 80+ in 6 foot seas. Im not sayin you, but lots dont know how big /deep a 6 7 or 8 foot sea is IMO...... I LOVE the 31 ft Boxer boat, but hes on here sayin he runs WFO in 8 ft seas blowing away 42Tigers with 1200's and 40 OL with 1200's...in big water. So to alot of people it sounds alittle far fetched. Again, I know the Boxer boat and have seen it may times, its cool as sh!t and I know its fast. But we've all been hearing some tall tales from Sutphen guys lately. I mean if what hes sayin is true, then hes also kickin the crap out of your 39 with 1000HP blower motors too, right? In 8 footers?....Now Im not speaking for 4195 here, but I think the Super Sutphen talk finally made him snap, there has been alot of Sutphen smack talkin on AND OFF the boards lately because of these super accomplishments that only Sutphens are achieving. With that being said and Sutphen being the best flat bottom boat made...who's got one for sale? I want one!

I said I was in Walter's 39 [TKO] during the Borden Light Poker run . There were four boats running together at 100+ as we approached Newport. The other three boats had to back off in the 3 to 5 foot slop.I don't believe any of us was at Orange Beach, but a comment made by the Miss GEIGO team that TKO was on cruise control as he won production 3 at the worlds this year.

kreed 10-22-2011 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by Boxer (Post 3533625)
I said I was in Walter's 39 [TKO] during the Borden Light Poker run . There were four boats running together at 100+ as we approached Newport. The other three boats had to back off in the 3 to 5 foot slop.I don't believe any of us was at Orange Beach, but a comment made by the Miss GEIGO team that TKO was on cruise control as he won production 3 at the worlds this year.

Ok Boxer, that was my bad reading then. I know your boat goes through water a 31 shouldnt even think about, but running those speeds and huge water, i had to question it! My bad. Still would be fun to see Franks Tiger make a long run with the 39 #6 boat next summer! Throw some 4 to 5 footers in the mix and I think the 40 OL may have trouble with the Sutphen AND the Cig! Dan, how does the OL handle 5 footers????

Nauti Kitty 10-22-2011 11:02 PM

I agree, Id love to see video of that

NK

Interceptor 10-24-2011 04:13 PM

How about Phantom ?

Sydwayz 10-25-2011 04:56 PM

We don't need no sinking steps!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMepp-o9Igg&feature=related[/youtube]

GLH 10-25-2011 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by spk1 (Post 3529581)
Who is Still making a non stepped hull?

Fountain?













;)

joeya 10-25-2011 05:18 PM

Concept Boats is still making non stepped Hulls on their 32' & 36'

eddie 11-05-2011 05:59 PM

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Went and looked at the 30 mid cabin NRG today, good looking boat. Should be water ready soon. Made right at Lake of the Ozarks. Factory Merc power in this one. Pretty much will do what ever the customer wants. Nice to see someone close to the lake building boats.

bwd 11-05-2011 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by Interceptor (Post 3535562)
How about Phantom ?

Yes, what about?

Interceptor 11-06-2011 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by Interceptor (Post 3535562)
How about Phantom ?


Originally Posted by bwd (Post 3543514)
Yes, what about?

That was my reply to the question " Who is still making a non-stepped boat".

ed

bwd 11-06-2011 11:42 AM

I just meant that it is another option, sort of, if you don't count the vented bottom.

Comanche3Six 11-06-2011 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by shaun harrington (Post 3531294)
forget it,,,i'm saying it.

apache.:party-smiley-004:

Hallelujah Brother! Lol!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niwjMgDl02k

kreed 11-07-2011 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by Comanche3Six (Post 3543821)
Hallelujah Brother! Lol!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niwjMgDl02k

Wow.....

Smarty 11-07-2011 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by Interceptor (Post 3543691)
That was my reply to the question " Who is still making a non-stepped boat".

ed

.....

SS930 11-07-2011 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by kreed (Post 3544099)
Wow.....

And that was the second place boat! :eek:

kreed 11-07-2011 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by SS930 (Post 3544163)
And that was the second place boat! :eek:

Yea, thats crazy! Must have been a 37 OL up front! Haha

Comanche3Six 11-07-2011 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by kreed (Post 3544388)
Yea, thats crazy! Must have been a 37 OL up front! Haha

A DA tribute edition?

SS930 11-07-2011 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by kreed (Post 3544388)
Yea, thats crazy! Must have been a 37 OL up front! Haha

You saw that race? :party-smiley-004:

WildThing47 11-07-2011 02:53 PM

Who is still making a non-stepped boat?

"Owners without limits, people who need Heroes...."
"people in second place...."

I know I'm going to catch hell for this...it was far too tempting..:lolhit:

Comanche3Six 11-07-2011 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by madhatter42 (Post 3544425)
Who is still making a non-stepped boat?

"Owners without limits, people who need Heroes...."
"people in second place...."

I know I'm going to catch hell for this...it was far too tempting..

People who don't need a Don Aronow Edition! Lol!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUnbmh16_2o

WildThing47 11-07-2011 02:58 PM

ha, 20 years ago?

Cmon, a 47 OL could run in that water just as well as that Apache...... ;) Cmon, he's only doing 85...

for 16-18,000lbs ......of course it runs well...my 42 #6 Tiger ran beautiful in it...but I converted...

"people who like to go slow..."

Comanche3Six 11-07-2011 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by madhatter42 (Post 3544431)
ha, 20 years ago?

Cmon, a 47 OL could run in that water just as well as that Apache...... ;) Cmon, he's only doing 85...

for 16-18,000lbs ......of course it runs well...my 42 #6 Tiger ran beautiful in it...but I converted...

for people who don't need to be converted. LOl!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cSR2Hay6uc&feature=fvsr

WildThing47 11-07-2011 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by Comanche3Six (Post 3544439)
for people who don't need to be converted. LOl!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cSR2Hay6uc&feature=fvsr

Ok bud, technology has surpassed the straight bottom, we have color TVs now, efi injection, a sandwich made with pancakes instead of bread...5 blade props......imagine that ;) haha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RpzF3y7QIM&NR=1

FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO BE OUT FRONT :)

Comanche3Six 11-07-2011 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by madhatter42 (Post 3544443)
Ok bud, technology has surpassed the straight bottom, we have color TVs now, efi injection, a sandwich made with pancakes instead of bread...5 blade props......imagine that ;) haha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RpzF3y7QIM&NR=1

FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO BE OUT FRONT :)

For those who don't want to be out front in small water with a DA gold plated toilet! Lol!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ_gm9XSEWE

WildThing47 11-07-2011 03:12 PM

HAHA, that cracked me up Commache, you're good people :)

Listen, that toilet, will allow you to take the best rough water turd possible!"

Comanche3Six 11-07-2011 03:17 PM

For those that can make do with a 5 gallon home depot bucket.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWSEoYnBwpU

4195 11-07-2011 05:45 PM

I want to say that Outerlimits will never and I repeat never build the Aronow edition boat, I don't care how many friggin steps it has it will never get built. I should start a thread about them never building one and revisit it every six months.

WildThing47 11-07-2011 05:57 PM

Wonderful Frank...haha :lolhit:

4195 11-07-2011 06:23 PM

:evilb:

Comanche3Six 11-07-2011 07:12 PM

That's cool.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x4yx9STz9A

kreed 11-08-2011 07:47 AM

Comanche, those Apache vids are amazing. Theres noting out there that can run that water at 100 MPH as well as the 47 Apache( Meshinsky boat). Even though the vid is 20 yrs old, I think its pretty amazing even to todays standards.

4195 11-08-2011 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by kreed (Post 3544922)
Comanche, those Apache vids are amazing. Theres noting out there that can run that water at 100 MPH as well as the 47 Apache( Meshinsky boat). Even though the vid is 20 yrs old, I think its pretty amazing even to todays standards.

So what youare really saying is call BS on Pats comment that a 47 Outerlimits can do it:party-smiley-004:

TeamSaris 11-08-2011 08:45 AM

Im going on my 4th year of OPA racing now...I started in a straight bottom 27 Avanti and Im currently in a stepped/padded Kryptonite. The Kryptonite is BETTER in rough water. Period.

4195 11-08-2011 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by madhatter42 (Post 3544443)
Ok bud, technology has surpassed the straight bottom, we have color TVs now, efi injection, a sandwich made with pancakes instead of bread...5 blade props......imagine that ;) haha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RpzF3y7QIM&NR=1

FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO BE OUT FRONT :)

Pat I love you but....you could do this same run in a hydro stream. I want to see a video of an Outerlimits tearing it up in rough water, who care that the boat runs 140mph in flat water.

4195 11-08-2011 09:52 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P47VAeGUu6w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlqkaUzKJ50
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sA7m7hTsJsg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w50kbN0eT6A

mikebrls 11-08-2011 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by madhatter42 (Post 3544443)
Ok bud, technology has surpassed the straight bottom, we have color TVs now, efi injection, a sandwich made with pancakes instead of bread...5 blade props......imagine that ;) haha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RpzF3y7QIM&NR=1

FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO BE OUT FRONT :)

nice looking boat and very fast in that 1 to 2 foot water.
do you have any video of that boat catching some air in maybe 4 to 6 footer's , that would be sweet :)
thank's
mike

WildThing47 11-08-2011 12:55 PM

This thread turns down hill, do you think I'd own an OL if it didn't preform beyond all my expectations? I've run in seriously rough seas...the boat does what it should. I've driven a few other models, throttled......all in snotty weather...the boats do it Frank. Very well I might add... are you running in huge seas like that all the time NO..so why would you want a PIG of a boat to run around when 90% of the time, you're running in less than 3s...and here we go...now I'm going to to have to listen to every Apache owner, ***** and moan...I don't care...these threads are stupid...and always end up in the toilet..

Apache isn't the only boat out there that can...granted, it does it well, but it's a straight bottom with massive displacement, what do you expect?

Im glad a boat with no cabin, a 3 man bolster, 3 engines, a center crash box that weighs 16,000+ , oh and is 47ft long can run in rough water...well so can the 50 Mystics, are we going to start attacking mystic now?

Quick, let me rent a chopper and every time I go out I'll be sure to get some nasty air shots in big water, just so I can post them online...ha no offense to anyone but come on...you want to see how they perform...go for a ride in one...this is turning into a "no they didn't thread" just like the crap that was posted in the first thread when they won the race around long island...

Apparently you can't say anything good about Outerlimits...and it's quite stupid considering god forbid anyone say anything about Cigarette...everyone's a non believer...

Dan is dan, he will always respond, but I'm taking his side on some of the stuff he posts, because all he's doing is promoting the manufacture he's working for..and die hard loves..so what's so bad about that, if he worked for Cigarette, he'd BE GREAT...this is like a bunch of kids on the playground...and no, it's *ucking stupid...**** if it were Fountain...we'd hear it too...oh man, why do they have such great shots, because Reggie pissed away a ton of money making his RACE TEAM a poker run team...lets not even go there...

So there ya go...

after all....

some powerboats just need some heroes..... (that was just too tempting)

and that apache was NOT running 100...

4195 11-08-2011 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by madhatter42 (Post 3545123)
This thread turns down hill, do you think I'd own an OL if it didn't preform beyond all my expectations? I've run in seriously rough seas...the boat does what it should. I've driven a few other models, throttled......all in snotty weather...the boats do it Frank. Very well I might add... are you running in huge seas like that all the time NO..so why would you want a PIG of a boat to run around when 90% of the time, you're running in less than 3s...and here we go...now I'm going to to have to listen to every Apache owner, ***** and moan...I don't care...these threads are stupid...and always end up in the toilet..

Apache isn't the only boat out there that can...granted, it does it well, but it's a straight bottom with massive displacement, what do you expect?

Im glad a boat with no cabin, a 3 man bolster, 3 engines, a center crash box that weighs 16,000+ , oh and is 47ft long can run in rough water...well so can the 50 Mystics, are we going to start attacking mystic now?

Quick, let me rent a chopper and every time I go out I'll be sure to get some nasty air shots in big water, just so I can post them online...ha no offense to anyone but come on...you want to see how they perform...go for a ride in one...this is turning into a "no they didn't thread" just like the crap that was posted in the first thread when they won the race around long island...

Apparently you can't say anything good about Outerlimits...and it's quite stupid considering god forbid anyone say anything about Cigarette...everyone's a non believer...

Dan is dan, he will always respond, but I'm taking his side on some of the stuff he posts, because all he's doing is promoting the manufacture he's working for..and die hard loves..so what's so bad about that, if he worked for Cigarette, he'd BE GREAT...this is like a bunch of kids on the playground...and no, it's *ucking stupid...**** if it were Fountain...we'd hear it too...oh man, why do they have such great shots, because Reggie pissed away a ton of money making his RACE TEAM a poker run team...lets not even go there...

So there ya go...

after all....

some powerboats just need some heroes..... (that was just too tempting)

and that apache was NOT running 100...

Wow you need to let up on the coffee:party-smiley-004::drink:

WildThing47 11-08-2011 01:37 PM

haha oh christ....

Thanks Frank...


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