Those are "Fountain" inches. A marine unit of measurement. Different than the "United States Customary Units"

I thhought everyone that owned a boat knew that? :party-smiley-004:

There web sight calls it a SV28.

lets not forget the knotch.how big is that.

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The V lites (Extreme Phantom) are less than 22 degrees at the stern have a flatter keel and like most all V hulls have variable deadrise. The speeds of this boat are impressive but not unbelievable. It appears to be a good exercise of combining good aero design with good bottom desingn and state of the marine world art in composites.
Steve

agreed. also, the carbon fiber is probably ultra stiff which would translate to more speed.

So lightweight, stiff as hell, great step design, less than 24º deadrise, aerodynamic, and waaalaaa! 100+ with a 600sci.

If you took a tape measure to the boat, then I'd imagine you'd be able to tell us a more exact number than 29 and change. What's the length overall?

Why don't we have any publicized specs on this boat? What's the fuel capacity? The weight? The length overall?

Why hasn't the Outerlimits web site been updated since Calvin Coolidge resided in the White House?

Our 29SV measures 28ft from the transom to the bow eye. The bussle is 21-23inches.

I have around 10hrs on it and absolutely LOVE IT!!!

Performance Boat Center

Finally some real numbers! So if we subtract a bit for the notch that would be just under 26 feet of hull on the water. I bet you DO love it. I'd love to have one too. Careful with the tabs though ;).

How do you figure that. The notch is probably 6-10 inches at most. Subtract that from 28 feet and we're still north of 27 feet. BrettM said the boat from transom to bow eye was 28' - he then indicated the length of the bustle.

Because when the boat is sitting in the water....the waterline does not go all the way to the front of the boat....there are a couple of feet (aproximately) of nose sticking forward from the point where it is floating....that are out of the water.

Chris

Right. I think we all know that. But all boats are like that. It's not really how boats are measured.

OK, I see what you mean. Unusual way to measure a boat length. The bow eye is very close to the bow on this model and I mistook transom to mean the rear of the bustle.

Amazing discussion. The Vast majority of boat companies would market this as an SV30, and take no crap for it either.

On the positive side, if that's what's left to bag about, it's going to be a very successful model. Sales seem to indicate it already is.

Coast guard regulations no longer allow room for fudging.

I wasn't aware the USCG had any such regulations. Are they listed somewhere?

Let's stop with the tit for tat and continue to talk about the OL SV29.

Didn't mean it that way at all, I genuinely don't know what the rules are. I was making a poke in fun at those that are now picking on length, nothing more.

I think the SV29 is one of the best looking boats I've seen in many years. Regardless of the speed and incredible engineering that went into it, I think it's a remarkable boat.

Obviously, this boat has people worried, or it wouldn't have generated the response it has. Those that have ridden in it say Phenomenal. Those that have boat brands that haven't changed their designs since Nixon was President, not so much ;)

Personally, I think the general form will be one of the most copied in recent decades. I'll bet it has already generated considerable discussion amongst the engineering and design staff of many competitors.

Ok gotcha. Sorry.

I actually tend to disagree. I actually don't know why anyone would purchase a vee bottom with a very small form factor if speed was the pure object. Obviously a cat will go much faster with the same power. Forget about this nonsense that Outerlimits is somehow reinventing the wheel and making vees "almost as fast" as cats. Cats are faster and always would be. OL is doing what appears to be some great stuff and I wouldn't detract from it. But let's not get crazy.

Vee bottoms have their advantages from a practical standpoint, of course. I love a great vee, as I've stated elsewhere. A vee might offer substantial freeboard, a generous cabin, nice cockpit room, the ability to stand up, etcetera. These are things you cannot get in a cat.

But the OL SV29 doesn't seem to offer any of these. The freeboard is very small and it's a sit-down boat. Therefore, why wouldn't someone want to be instead in a 28-30 cat that will easily be better in rough water, go faster, and be just as impractical?

If the SV29 had freeboard and was a true stand-up boat and it could offer such speeds, then I think it'd be a completely different story.

I would believe Brett's numbers. I seems OL is measuring their boats to the center of the bussle these days.

The more I see this 29 the more it grows on me.

Sorry I disagree :-)

I have owned a 28 Cat and I can tell you it does not handle rough water like this OL. Try going 40-50 mph in big waves in a 28 cat, you will get your ass beat and be all wet. The OL 29 handles the rough water way better, not even in the same league.

So the OL 29 has these benefits over a 28 Cat:

Better rough water handling
More cabin space
Way cheaper insurance.
Easier to tow and handle.

this is from my personal experience, I have been on the OL 29 and have owned a 28 Daytona Cat.

My close friend had a 28 Daytona with a single 650hp motor and it barely went 100mph so of the two boats that I have been in myself not sure the cat has the speed advantage.

So add as fast as a 28 cat to the benefits of the OL 29 V.

This is coming from a guy that said I would never own a v bottom ever again. Never say never :-)

You can tell I am a big believer of the OL SV29

MP

Cats with center pods aren't really cats where I come from. Don't take offense please. The center pod throws back spray and does all sorts of things that a pure tunnel will not do.

A 28 Skater is the best rough water boat of its size and even as compared with vee bottom boats above 30 feet. And the 30 Skater is even more of a beast. There's not a chance that any 29 foot go-fast vee bottom can take big chop the way a 28 Skater can. The 28 Skater is legendary. I've owned both and so have many other people.

I don't want to hijack this thread and turn it into a cat vs. vee thread. Anyone who hasn't driven (and not just been in) a Skater (or similar pure cat) really wouldn't be qualified to comment anyway. I was just saying that most people who have owned both cats and vees choose to own vees in addition to owning cats because vees offer certain practical advantages. Rough water capability is not one of them. (Ocean cability yes - cats aren't for the ocean.)

Fair enough, no offense taken.

I have never been in a 28 Skater, would love to :-) I have heard nothing but great things about them

I am just speaking from my personal experience. Is the 28 Skater wackers only? if so not my thing LOL

I have owned a 28 Eliminator V bottom and a 28 Daytona cat. I have been in a bunch of other boats but don't have the seat time I do in my boats I owned. I boat only in fresh water BTW

The 28 Eagle was supposed to be very fast and not handle big water well. The big water part was true but compared to this OL my 28 eagle was a pig. I had about 650hp in my eagle and its best speed was 85mph and it was scary as hell. The OL rides much more like a cat, no chine walk and very stable.

Just my personal experience talking no hearsay or speculation.

MP

If you are compare any cat to a vee bottom you would need to list pros and cons. I have owned 2 28 skaters. It is very hard to beat a 28 skater if you are running hard. The 29 ol would have a big benefit at slower cruise speeds. I ridden in the 29 ol seems very soft at moderate speeds. Back seat is also much more pleasant

Well put. I'd agree with all of the above.

nobody's giving OL crap about the length (I know I'm not). Simply trying to figure out how long the thing is.

Someone just build one with a V-10 already............ ;)

If the Ol 29 is up to par with a 10-15 year old Super V Lites in the current up and down the beach races a 28 Skater will not run with it. I am a Skater owner and satisfied customer but a 28 in a sea breeze and surf will have a hard time going very fast very long. The larger outboard cats can do it like the 30 Skater or 32 DW but a 28 is a little short in length and freeboard. See the tape http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yLCcp6VNu4

Way back, some manufacturers were given length measured at the gunwale, not centerline.They were given longer length, fooling some buyers on true size.Length should be given stem to stern, also not counting swimgrids built in or added on.Only trawlers with a stem & stern straight up could give accurate waterline length.The notch on the 29OL doesn't make the hull length shorter,it only allows the X dim for the drive to be placed higher. Saw the boat in person,never measured with a tape and it looked to me like a boat with overall length 29' .I wouldn't be concerned with the mishap that happened to it.To me, seemed like driver input error ,relying on indicators,pushing the boat to its limit.I like the boat overall,minus the pumpkin colour and the alcantarra finishes on it.I would order one with custom colours and interior, an Ilmor package as someone said already, if won the lotto,of course!

+1 especially if they could squeeze twin ILMORS in it!

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100% agree!

Dunno, I have a similar pad on my 1990 Mirage.A notch would have been nice too, allowing me putting my drives' X dim higher when I redid the transom years ago .Deadrise is 24 degree on my boat but the pad looks like of the OL's.

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I am pretty sure I know where the pad came from,

OUTERLIMITS!!!

just because its looks similar to others does not mean it is.

There are a lot of boats that have a pad with a notch that look just like the OL and they are not even close.

I know the boat business is full of copy cats just splashing bottoms and selling them as their own. OL is not one of these. This is the new bottom people will be trying to copy.

MP

Let's keep in mind that notched transoms are nothing new; and to be sure, there are different schools of thought on their usefulness/desirability from a pure racing standpoint. Plenty of race guys will tell you they will help the boat in other areas without speed being one of them. Others believe raising the drive and pushing it farther aft beynd the notch is useful.

Pads, notches, steps, nothing new, boats had them before WWII .No one is comparing boats to the NEW OL29 here, just pointing out some similarities,lol.There were racing boats with the prop front of the sterndrive yet nobody criticizing Volvo adapting that idea!

One of these is at the top of a very short list rigged with a 725/indy.

Peter

How come nobody is talking about the fact that this thing apparently FLIPPED OVER?! :eekdrop:

Me thinks he's a little late to the party :whistle:

They need a "beating a dead horse" emoticon here.

Not much of a party

Replies #67-69 unless there has been some "editing"

OK found more threads.

close but not what we need :lolhit::party-smiley-004:

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