Yacht goes down off NY
07-06-2012 | 06:55 PM
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Is there a depth like that in the cove?
I'm surprised some details are not known(or at least in the news), considering the local coverage it's getting.
07-06-2012 | 08:27 PM
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First, I am saddened at the loss of life and my heart goes out to those who lost family.
Secondly, I am angered because an irresponsible owner operated his craft unsafely endangering all the passengers. This gives boaters a bad name. There is NO way 27 people should have been on that boat. It was way over capacity which probably contributed to the capsizing due to center of gravity issues.
Wannabe
Secondly, I am angered because an irresponsible owner operated his craft unsafely endangering all the passengers. This gives boaters a bad name. There is NO way 27 people should have been on that boat. It was way over capacity which probably contributed to the capsizing due to center of gravity issues.
Wannabe
RIP to those children and my condolences to their families.
07-06-2012 | 08:38 PM
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Very Sad, Very Tragic, Very Preventable! Condolences to the family and friends. So sad when children pay the price for STRUPID adults who are suppossed to protect children!
The rules of the road and laws are very clear and posted on almost all boats as to capacity and allowable loading. It's the owners responsibility to make sure the operator is qualified and knowledgable in the safety requirements of his boat before turning over the vessel to him for operation and the operators responsibility to comply with these laws and requiremnts as the "captain" of the vessel. Laws and regulations were broken here and the responsible parties should be held accountable. This was not really an accident, but a preventable act and the willful disregard for the law and safety of his passengers!
Just to also mention SADLY that 5 children lost their lives to electrocution on the Fourth becuase apparently stupid owners of boats and lakeside docks did not have the ground fault interrrupters on their dockside power hookups that the laws require and that inspectors and compliance officials allow this type of deadly safety violation to go uncorrected and that takes the lives of innocent children ! This is law everywhere in the USA by the National Electric Code AND SHOULD NOT HAPPEN AT ALL! No Damn excuse or justitication for these losses!
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Ray @ Raylar
The rules of the road and laws are very clear and posted on almost all boats as to capacity and allowable loading. It's the owners responsibility to make sure the operator is qualified and knowledgable in the safety requirements of his boat before turning over the vessel to him for operation and the operators responsibility to comply with these laws and requiremnts as the "captain" of the vessel. Laws and regulations were broken here and the responsible parties should be held accountable. This was not really an accident, but a preventable act and the willful disregard for the law and safety of his passengers!
Just to also mention SADLY that 5 children lost their lives to electrocution on the Fourth becuase apparently stupid owners of boats and lakeside docks did not have the ground fault interrrupters on their dockside power hookups that the laws require and that inspectors and compliance officials allow this type of deadly safety violation to go uncorrected and that takes the lives of innocent children ! This is law everywhere in the USA by the National Electric Code AND SHOULD NOT HAPPEN AT ALL! No Damn excuse or justitication for these losses!
Regards,
Ray @ Raylar
07-07-2012 | 01:30 AM
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07-07-2012 | 08:21 AM
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07-07-2012 | 08:46 AM
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I own a 34' Silverton of similar vintage. Even my cat would realize that over 20 people aboard was way overcrowded. I've had 8 aboard, and it seemed crowded. I can imagine some would have had sense to question the capacity of the boat, only to have the captain assure them "It'll be OK". Poor kids.
07-07-2012 | 10:27 PM
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Another thing to take into consideration is the capacity rating on older boats is based on an old 1950's era average weight of an adult. There was just a recent news report here in Pittsburgh that discussed how the rating is being revised and how it will affect commercial vessels due to the fattening of people. I want to say the average weight in the 50's was 160lbs and now its over 180 if not closer to 200.
