Checkmate 43 Punisher Tops 85 mph
08-18-2012, 04:47 PM
#31
Has anyone heard any prices on it. I doubt checkmate is trying to compete with nortech or outerlimits. If the boat is priced right I am sure they would sell plenty of them. I am sure there are plenty of people out there that would love to have an affordable 43' boat, i know i would....
Just pricing the components, 700's/NXT's, Mitcher T paint, labor to layup/build.....you are going to have to get 350K+ out of it. Heck they get 50K for a 20 ft outboard powered Checkmate.
I would be interested to know where the price point for this boat is +400/-400K?
08-18-2012, 05:27 PM
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"Affordable Performance 43 ft boat" = doesn't exist!
Just pricing the components, 700's/NXT's, Mitcher T paint, labor to layup/build.....you are going to have to get 350K+ out of it. Heck they get 50K for a 20 ft outboard powered Checkmate.
I would be interested to know where the price point for this boat is +400/-400K?
Just pricing the components, 700's/NXT's, Mitcher T paint, labor to layup/build.....you are going to have to get 350K+ out of it. Heck they get 50K for a 20 ft outboard powered Checkmate.
I would be interested to know where the price point for this boat is +400/-400K?
$ 120 k for hull ,deck interior
$ 20 K rigging
$ paint add this to cost it vary's so much " straight white would be good for me
total cost
$ 260 k to build so they can sell it for low $ 300 k and make a profit and still be able to sell boat's , it's a fin line on price, to high and they price them self out of market to low and they loose money , they need a happy medium, make money but don't be to greedy . and sell a lot of boats instead of 1 or 2 a year .
08-18-2012, 07:12 PM
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test it in some nice 3 to 4 footer's to get a real top speed once some air get's under that huge boat
shoot if it's bought as a ocean boat 85 mph will be plenty fast , it's when all these boater's run in flat lake water with there offshore boat's to get there top speed with big prop's that take mile's to get to that speed and no mid range punch .
year's ago I tested a new 38 zr that they claimed 90 mph and it got there but took forever after around 65 mph the speedo would just go up 1 mph at a time ," as my 4 year old would say "" it took all day long "
I guess it come's down to where you boat and how your going to use it . if it where my choice I would rather have a 80 mph wave crusher boat that when you push the stick's forward at 50 mph it pushes you back in the seat like a drag car then a boat that you have to run 5 mile's to get the extra 10 mph out of because where I boat you couldn't run that long in the ocean with out hitting some wave's
go run this new checkmate in some real ocean 6 footer's side by side with one of those 100mph + boat's and see who win's the race . I would bet the checkmate win's and let say it didn't win at least the check mate people will be able to walk away from there boat in comfort and not aching from back pain
mike
shoot if it's bought as a ocean boat 85 mph will be plenty fast , it's when all these boater's run in flat lake water with there offshore boat's to get there top speed with big prop's that take mile's to get to that speed and no mid range punch .
year's ago I tested a new 38 zr that they claimed 90 mph and it got there but took forever after around 65 mph the speedo would just go up 1 mph at a time ," as my 4 year old would say "" it took all day long "
I guess it come's down to where you boat and how your going to use it . if it where my choice I would rather have a 80 mph wave crusher boat that when you push the stick's forward at 50 mph it pushes you back in the seat like a drag car then a boat that you have to run 5 mile's to get the extra 10 mph out of because where I boat you couldn't run that long in the ocean with out hitting some wave's
go run this new checkmate in some real ocean 6 footer's side by side with one of those 100mph + boat's and see who win's the race . I would bet the checkmate win's and let say it didn't win at least the check mate people will be able to walk away from there boat in comfort
and not aching from back pain mike
Plus; have you guys seen the videos of this thing on the water there's just something about the lines of this boat that really do it for me
08-19-2012, 06:22 AM
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Geronimo36
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That benchmark maybe BS to you but if this boat doesnt tap the door on 100 they won't sell many. Cig 42x gets there, OL does, NT, Sunsation and Fountain do despite beaks/swim platforms. The cabin interior on the Checkmate needs some help for sure, looks like the backdrop for a 70's porn shoot! The Mitcher T paint is sharp though.
You seem mad, deep breaths. Lol
08-19-2012, 06:28 AM
#35
No not mad
Pretty sure Phil got the purple 42X to 99 for a magazine test back when he built one of the first ones. If I was the builder I would have never mentioned the 85 mph result to Matt, would have done what Sonic did with their 39, promote it, show YouTube clips but never mention a top speed number to keep everyone guessing!
Pretty sure Phil got the purple 42X to 99 for a magazine test back when he built one of the first ones. If I was the builder I would have never mentioned the 85 mph result to Matt, would have done what Sonic did with their 39, promote it, show YouTube clips but never mention a top speed number to keep everyone guessing!
08-19-2012, 10:16 AM
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To some the top end number might matter. To most of us that have been around the block, it's more about the driveability of how the boat performs under a load. Sure any builder can prop a boat for that top end number, but how the boat performs with 6 people, fuel is where the boat will be on a typical day. 100mph is great, its that magical number that we all want to achieve in a big V bottom boat..but this is not a light, small 43. My NorTech did 92.7 on a good day, 100 gallons of fuel and 3 of us on the boat..and did 90 all day long once I stretched it out with 5 people and full of fuel. No one has never questioned that. Most of the time I cruised at 3700-3750 rpms or 60mph. Top end really is not that important once you hit it a few times, just my take on it. This boat looks good, has great offshore old school lines, and I believe it will perform the same as my 43 NT once dialed in. Congrats to CheckMate for seeing this through. 
08-19-2012, 10:24 AM
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Geronimo36
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To some the top end number might matter. To most of us that have been around the block, it's more about the driveability of how the boat performs under a load. Sure any builder can prop a boat for that top end number, but how the boat performs with 6 people, fuel is where the boat will be on a typical day. 100mph is great, its that magical number that we all want to achieve in a big V bottom boat..but this is not a light, small 43. My NorTech did 92.7 on a good day, 100 gallons of fuel and 3 of us on the boat..and did 90 all day long once I stretched it out with 5 people and full of fuel. No one has never questioned that. Most of the time I cruised at 3700-3750 rpms or 60mph. Top end really is not that important once you hit it a few times, just my take on it. This boat looks good, has great offshore old school lines, and I believe it will perform the same as my 43 NT once dialed in. Congrats to CheckMate for seeing this through.
08-19-2012, 01:00 PM
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To some the top end number might matter. To most of us that have been around the block, it's more about the driveability of how the boat performs under a load. Sure any builder can prop a boat for that top end number, but how the boat performs with 6 people, fuel is where the boat will be on a typical day. 100mph is great, its that magical number that we all want to achieve in a big V bottom boat..but this is not a light, small 43. My NorTech did 92.7 on a good day, 100 gallons of fuel and 3 of us on the boat..and did 90 all day long once I stretched it out with 5 people and full of fuel. No one has never questioned that. Most of the time I cruised at 3700-3750 rpms or 60mph. Top end really is not that important once you hit it a few times, just my take on it. This boat looks good, has great offshore old school lines, and I believe it will perform the same as my 43 NT once dialed in. Congrats to CheckMate for seeing this through.
08-19-2012, 01:14 PM
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To some the top end number might matter. To most of us that have been around the block, it's more about the driveability of how the boat performs under a load. Sure any builder can prop a boat for that top end number, but how the boat performs with 6 people, fuel is where the boat will be on a typical day. 100mph is great, its that magical number that we all want to achieve in a big V bottom boat..but this is not a light, small 43. My NorTech did 92.7 on a good day, 100 gallons of fuel and 3 of us on the boat..and did 90 all day long once I stretched it out with 5 people and full of fuel. No one has never questioned that. Most of the time I cruised at 3700-3750 rpms or 60mph. Top end really is not that important once you hit it a few times, just my take on it. This boat looks good, has great offshore old school lines, and I believe it will perform the same as my 43 NT once dialed in. Congrats to CheckMate for seeing this through.
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