Lake Cumberland and the Blame Game
#151
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The reasons runs like this will be stopped for good, is not because of so-called "equipment issues". It will be because of the behaviors shown in the videos, by the participants. Sure, there may be other angles that paint different pictures, but those aren't the videos that'll be exhibited to the local governments, who will ultimately decide whether or not to ban all future events. A few YouTube cowboys will ruin it for all.
#152
The reasons runs like this will be stopped for good, is not because of so-called "equipment issues". It will be because of the behaviors shown in the videos, by the participants. Sure, there may be other angles that paint different pictures, but those aren't the videos that'll be exhibited to the local governments, who will ultimately decide whether or not to ban all future events. A few YouTube cowboys will ruin it for all.
#153
In open water ??
They were both on the St Lawrence where it is congested on Saturdays of a poker run
Who said there was no one around ?
He was a participant in a Poker Run held by an organization that you said had rules.
If their rules state that you can run 180 plus on that river during their event then my point stands.
#154
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This accident was not driver error. My husband and Jeff knew what they were doing. Don't blame someone you don't even know.
#155
There are so many people that loved and respected Brad. It was a tragic ACCIDENT!
#156
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this thread is what makes me sick about the internet and oso. i feel like these post are started and made by a bunch of liberal witch hunters. you know a group of people with zero experience in the situation at hand handing out their solution to a problem they cannot understand much less comperhind. mechanical devices to prevent the actions of two boaters determined to not let the other boater be faster than themselves. oh i know, spinning in is the problem as everything t2x says is gospel and forward thinking. no its the spectators that are at fault. no no, its the people with more $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ than i have so thats the problem as no one should have that much money. lets impose regulations on the rich and fast boaters so they can be as slow as my boat. roll bars, saftey cages, gyro's (obviously no one knows that those things have to a mass in order to have an effect and the mass generally starts at 2,000 lbs, yea a ton) you really want to comment on your solution to this? i mean do you trust your life and happiness in the hands of liberals?
This one is the size of a quarter...
http://www.pololu.com/catalog/product/1269
For $11.99 it can:
dual-axis gyroscopes that differ only in their sensitivities and axes of rotation. Boards marked with a black X on the bottom silkscreen have ±100°/s and ±400°/s ranges; boards marked with a red X have ±500°/s and ±2000°/s ranges (each chip provides two sensitivities per axis—1x and 4x—and both are brought out to the user I/O on these carrier boards).
Military grade gyros are only about $2500
Just sayin... Everyone just want to help man... Its a difficult time.
Last edited by Keith Atlanta; 09-11-2013 at 12:35 AM.
#157
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This whole thread makes me sick to even read. Show some respect for me and my babies and quit placing blame on Jeff who was driving or my husband who was on the throttles. I can assure you no one knew a boat or could throttle better than Brad.
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This seems pretty easy.... Everybodys emotions are running high but here it goes.
First, its a poker run not a race so if the coast guard accidentally lets a boat onto the poker run course, the PR boats yield to him/slower boat and its a neutral course.... If not - disqualified. In Florida you have manatee zones (no wake zones) from the shore to a main causeway. In the causeway, you can run at speed. Spectators stay within 100 yards of the shore. All PR boats have to stay within 100 yards of the center line. If there isnt enough room, you are having the poker run in the wrong place. Some of the footage shows areas that seem pretty narrow for boats to go 3 wide let alone 3 wide with other boat traffic.
Second, The PR committe has to designate some zones as caution or slower area. You dont obey and a ref sees you - disqualified. In wider areas designate it as that, a free for all. In the meantime you get DQ'd if the areas dont permit enough "room" to put 30 boats doing 150 MPH.
Done, I am now sponsoring a poker run in Palm Beach thru all the Manatee zones.... C'mon Down.
First, its a poker run not a race so if the coast guard accidentally lets a boat onto the poker run course, the PR boats yield to him/slower boat and its a neutral course.... If not - disqualified. In Florida you have manatee zones (no wake zones) from the shore to a main causeway. In the causeway, you can run at speed. Spectators stay within 100 yards of the shore. All PR boats have to stay within 100 yards of the center line. If there isnt enough room, you are having the poker run in the wrong place. Some of the footage shows areas that seem pretty narrow for boats to go 3 wide let alone 3 wide with other boat traffic.
Second, The PR committe has to designate some zones as caution or slower area. You dont obey and a ref sees you - disqualified. In wider areas designate it as that, a free for all. In the meantime you get DQ'd if the areas dont permit enough "room" to put 30 boats doing 150 MPH.
Done, I am now sponsoring a poker run in Palm Beach thru all the Manatee zones.... C'mon Down.
And another thing, Drag car parachutes pulling a shroud to decrease full deployment and/or a compressed air blast blast to blow it out. Drag chutes are less than $500. I find it hard to believe that this couldnt be a cost effective solution. Initially, it could be manual. But, I am 99% confident that they have a cheap gyroscope that would deploy the chute under pre-programmed conditions under $1000. On $500K+++ boats this would be less money than the GPS's in the dash and it would save your life.
There, I've laid it out for you.... PM me to get an address to send me royalty checks...
There, I've laid it out for you.... PM me to get an address to send me royalty checks...
me and my wife bought a new boat this summer. And yes its a fast boat. We decided to got to the cumberland poker run and enter. i blew a drive up the week before so i called and they were nice enough to refund me entirely. my wife has been a little leary about running in this type of environment. we ran all summer in different go fast situations trying to get her comfortable. so, she said she was finally ready! we were both crushed that we couldnt go, but were looking forward to next year. But after watching these videos she is SCARED to death to even spectate. i love this sport, surely there are rules and regulations that can be put in place to make driving and spectating alot more SAFE. i understand the RUSH and EGO but there has to be some limitations!!!!
As far as spectators in the course. Get volunteers to patrol with flags and give them the authority to enforce.
#160
I didn't know Brad or Jeff and I'm not laying blame, I'm not sure anyone else really is either. We are all so sorry for your loss and it's our loss as well. We are all trying to make sense of it and what you should know is that those of us who knew Brad and Jeff loved them for who they were and we would do anything to reverse the incident. You and your babies and family are in our prayers and you can call on any one of us for support if you need it.



