Lake Cumberland and the Blame Game
09-10-2013 | 07:26 PM
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09-10-2013 | 07:27 PM
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I personally can not imagine that local authorities after this accident and the video's that are starting to pop up will have any choice but to shut this event down.
09-10-2013 | 07:31 PM
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Jeez, I just ran across this video of the same event. Wow, that was close.
http://youtu.be/2AoHBQNqNSg http://youtu.be/2AoHBQNqNSg
http://youtu.be/2AoHBQNqNSg http://youtu.be/2AoHBQNqNSg
On closed courses, I would never suggest someone regulate anything anyone is willing to try. But on open waters, that include any type of spectators not policed to safe distances, I'm afraid it's going to end up in the inevitable, at which point we shall all be f$ched for good.
09-10-2013 | 07:35 PM
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I have been boating & poker running on LC since I relocated here in 1998, and many years of experience previously, not just on Cumberland. While I didn't know Kevin, Brad or Jeff I do know that both runs on Lake Cumberland are managed, overseen, thought-out and governed by persons that are competent and knowledgeable about the "poker-run" scene, I know these persons personally. While it is truly unfortunate that a loss of life has happened it is none the less inevitable with this sport. Yes it is a sport. The organizers are not personally responsible for this tragic loss of life. The Coast Guard was on the water, a heavy presence of F&W was on the water and to me it was apperant that they made every attempt to keep some of the local idiots out of the way. They just cant do it all, there will always be someone that interferes on purpose or inadvertanetly. The Cruiser we all see in the video was IMO to close to the course, F&W missed them, or they moved closer after a F&W patrol passed. These things we cannot control. Stupidity and inexperience go hand in hand. Kevin, Brad and Jeff all had the right to run as fast as they wanted and felt comfortable with. They are gone but not forgotten, we all must realize that this is a dangerous sport/activity, we all love it and desire to not see it regulated out of existence. I don't see any reason why this event like all others like it will not come back next year. If I have any voice in the matter then it will stay.
09-10-2013 | 07:35 PM
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All this talk about speed limits on these poker runs and safety. Why do we have all these spectators at these runs? Everybody wants to see the fast cats run! I do and everybody I know does too! Would there be any spectators at a poker run with a speed limit, NO! Go ahead and put a speed limit of 60 on these runs and you would not have to worry about fast boats and spectators being hurt or killed because neither would be there. By the way the next time you are in your car on a two lane highway doing 55 and you pass another car doing 55 at about 3 to 4 feet, sounds pretty dangerous doesn't it?
Wanna be a spectator and see this stuff go to the races!! Watch these videos and tell me you'd be ok having kids on your boat and one of them blasts you like this!!
09-10-2013 | 07:37 PM
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All this talk about speed limits on these poker runs and safety. Why do we have all these spectators at these runs? Everybody wants to see the fast cats run! I do and everybody I know does too! Would there be any spectators at a poker run with a speed limit, NO! Go ahead and put a speed limit of 60 on these runs and you would not have to worry about fast boats and spectators being hurt or killed because neither would be there. By the way the next time you are in your car on a two lane highway doing 55 and you pass another car doing 55 at about 3 to 4 feet, sounds pretty dangerous doesn't it?
Also You are comparing a non fluid surface at far slower speeds.
09-10-2013 | 07:40 PM
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09-10-2013 | 07:41 PM
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WOW is all I can say...after watching those recent videos...it is safe to say that certain people gambled their life on that run and also put the spectators at a huge risk. You just don't operate a boat like that on an open public waterway...period.
No one likes to hear about the loss of life in any circumstance however if you are going to gamble your life like that...bad things happen....real bad things happen........and they did.
Everyone should be thankful that the spectators were not hurt or killer as a result of the actions of these boaters.
No one likes to hear about the loss of life in any circumstance however if you are going to gamble your life like that...bad things happen....real bad things happen........and they did.
Everyone should be thankful that the spectators were not hurt or killer as a result of the actions of these boaters.
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09-10-2013 | 07:48 PM
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All this talk about speed limits on these poker runs and safety. Why do we have all these spectators at these runs? Everybody wants to see the fast cats run! I do and everybody I know does too! Would there be any spectators at a poker run with a speed limit, NO! Go ahead and put a speed limit of 60 on these runs and you would not have to worry about fast boats and spectators being hurt or killed because neither would be there. By the way the next time you are in your car on a two lane highway doing 55 and you pass another car doing 55 at about 3 to 4 feet, sounds pretty dangerous doesn't it?
I'd surely go to a PR with a speed limit, as a matter of fact, that's the only way I'll ever do one again, JMO.
09-10-2013 | 07:50 PM
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I was pretty vocal in the thread that was removed earlier today about what I had saw with the "Pure Platinum" Skater video. I received a PM from him earlier today, basically defending himself and even going as far to state he didn't feel he was going that fast..... Below is the conversation I had with him earlier today. I am not posting this to start an argument, while I am sure to some it looks like I am. I guess what I am trying to prove here is its a mentality that needs to be changed. In this case, with the PP skater, if the driver doesn't feel he did anything wrong, then it will continue. I personally don't know him, giving benefit of doubt he is probably a pretty cool guy. We all have experienced a lack of judgement and have made poor decisions, but as men (and women) we need to know when to suck up our pride, admit we made a mistake, and learn from these mistakes. God knows I have had my fair share of screw ups....
Everybody needs to stop assuming why we were near the spectator boats.. The question is what was on the other side of him. We're we running fast? No .. The second video is just past that one and it was my video.. You need to remember that everyone made a assumption after the first wreck video but once the second came out all opinions changed.. You weren't there so you have no idea what was on the backside ... Everybody wants to be a expert on this site but you have limited facts... I have on board cameras ... I know the real truth... Please think before you make opinionated attacks without facts.. If you search hard you will find the pics showing the fleet on the other side of the checkmate. Thanks
Look I don't give a damn you you are and how skilled you think you are and how deep of pockets you have. That was reckless behavior, PERIOD. If I were anywhere near the group of anchorded boats, I would have found you and expressed my displeasure with you. Don't try and explain, defend or justify your actions with a PM to me. Your PM only solidifies my position your ego is seriously clouding your ability to make wise, safe decisions.
Originally Posted by low_psi
Originally Posted by GATORONE
Originally Posted by low_psi
It looks like you were trying to send me a PM but my inbox was full? I cleaned it out, so feel free to PM me again.
Everybody needs to stop assuming why we were near the spectator boats.. The question is what was on the other side of him. We're we running fast? No .. The second video is just past that one and it was my video.. You need to remember that everyone made a assumption after the first wreck video but once the second came out all opinions changed.. You weren't there so you have no idea what was on the backside ... Everybody wants to be a expert on this site but you have limited facts... I have on board cameras ... I know the real truth... Please think before you make opinionated attacks without facts.. If you search hard you will find the pics showing the fleet on the other side of the checkmate. Thanks
Look I don't give a damn you you are and how skilled you think you are and how deep of pockets you have. That was reckless behavior, PERIOD. If I were anywhere near the group of anchorded boats, I would have found you and expressed my displeasure with you. Don't try and explain, defend or justify your actions with a PM to me. Your PM only solidifies my position your ego is seriously clouding your ability to make wise, safe decisions.
