Here come the inland lake experts!
 

Are you high!?!?
I don`t care how many hours you logged on lake Michigan it obviously wasn`t in powerboat. I have Go Pro video of 4`s in my 38 and its a cake walk, nowhere close to the height the bow was getting on this 46' boat!
Bad trim and tab settings? Who ever thinks that hasn`t boated on the Great Lakes and needs to go back to jumping cruiser wakes. :lolhit:

That nose was shooting for the moon, 8`s at a minimum no doubt about it.

Thank you ICDEPPL, you've been there obviously. Now bring spring early so we can get back out there.

More daylight everyday, spring will be here soon but not soon enough.

You gotta put the pipe down son.


This is what 4`s on the Great Lakes look like on a 38` boat. A 46` Cig would eat those up like nothing was going on. You could probably have a coffee and not spill your half and half.
On wait I`m sorry.. according to the SHIP captain over here these are 1-2`s I guess :bong:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMcJc5G1NBE
I took my old 33 out in solid 10`s and while my kids and wife were screaming bloody murder at me we didn`t DIE!!

Next time you think its rough… Stop the boat. If you can see out when the boat is in the trough is't barely 5-6'… and chances are you can barely run at speed safely..
I ran a CC up the beach between Ft. Lauderdale and Miami… I couldn't see over the waves when I was in the trough, and they looked to be as tall as the hard top…. Boat needs 10' bridge clearance… I ran the boat in the toughs, and eased over the tops into the next gut… Ran 40 or so in the troughs, 20 up and over.. If I thought I was Billy Boatracer that would have been my last ride….
I chuckle at how some come up with wave heights when they are talking about their run… (LOTO guys know what I'm talking about:) )

I'm both thinking 4's in the video IC… More like 2-3' at biggest… You could have dropped the bow in one of those and still been fine… Lake MI has some of the crappiest water I have ever run in, and that video looked like much nicer conditions than I ever remember seeing… The 38 Gun is a tough V to beat…and I tried…...:whistle:

Good stories this winter boys….keep them coming.

Boating video, especially from an iPhone, will totally distort the water levels. Like when you watch a mogul skiing video and the mogul look small and easy until a skier is launched 25' on an incorrect path.

The attached video and still pic were shot during the same races. Now, tell me where in the video the water looks even remotely like it could have created the attached launch pic.

http://vimeo.com/82428553

Agreed. 4-6's this past summer i couldn't keep the props in the water running, water that can toss that 46 like that...id start praying in my 38

Here is a great Michigan lake video. What size do you think the lake was rolling then? I bet boatme will chime in with what the forecast was that day.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og3-FIMjB7k

Link no worky

I'm not stopping in any trough to measure a wave, or to prove a point. First of all Great Lake waves are worse then the open ocean in my opinion. There closer together and harder to predict. Ocean there spread out and easier to navigate. They may have not been 12-15 but I'm sure it felt like it to them. None the less it doesn't look like anything I'd want to run in.

Nice boat. We polished it and did some touch up on it a few years ago.

A friend/local here in Richmond owned Strip Poker a couple years ago and I too thought that was it.



4-6's tops IMO

6's and under

J-Bonz do you have the Atlantic City 2010 cancelled race video?

Oso wave size please.....

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FwsCyRol4TA

I think Waves and Wheels just got done putting a new interior in that boat.

Buck

big.........:eekdrop:

Here you go, it get's going at 5:00 then bye bye Fountain at 5:10 Cinzano gives it a shot, but at 6:25 oh yea.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uvkm5kKRXs

So how big were they the weekend the 382 was disappearing into the troughs, and the Jet was taking them over the tunnel? NOAA said 7-9, and I agree. When I was in the bottom of the wave, I could not see anything but water. The bow was struggling not to stuff, and when I would roll over the crest the props would certainly come out. Spacing between crests was approximately 1.5 boat lengths, and I could put the stren in the bottom and just be cresting with the bow.. Absolutely no way to run "at speed" in those monsters. I guess by the OSO wave measuring scale I was in 38' ers

I was suprised my TV was still in the boat when I got there.

Now if i had been in my 24 Cig i could have run WFO all the way to the bay.

Amen on the 24 Cig!!!! LOL!

Come to think of it, maybe my wave-o-meter is the one that's F'd up! Cuz every time I say, let's go, it's only 2-3's I end up the only one out there!

Apache's need not apply. Bayliner only water right there

Question:

So what is the best rough water boat anyway>?

I'm thinking about buying the 55 MTI when I finish painting my 40 skater. Will I be able to launch the MTI off 50' waves? I heard cats can handle 90% of their length in wave height as long as you are "packing - the -air" or something like that :confused:







EDIT:in case it's not obvious, the sarcasm switch is ON

Longest lonely ride of the summer aye?

I wont comment on the video or what it looks like but I will say this....

Every time we have a rough water race, Im excited to see the video...and it NEVER looks as rough as it really was. Its really annoying actually.
Even if it isnt 15s...I bet its rougher than hell in that boat :D

47 Apache for Vee bottom. 46 Skater for a Cat are my two guesses. Beautiful powerboats indeed!

Yes. Maybe a slightly stupid solo trip...

Oh and to answer how big were they? If you had a video I'm sure the majority here would say 2-3s at most. Come on, it's only Lake Erie. :party-smiley-004:

This is what 4' with whitecaps in the Georgia Strait looks like We had small craft warning with 20-25 knots wind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8IVujFhCHU

This run was in between 1-3' at Lighthouse Park in Burrad Inlet [ Vancouver] waves typically very close and confused coming at 2-3 different directions making it a hard ride. Reggie F ran a 38' diesel cruiser at the very same spot one time and he commented on how chitty the ride in confused water here compared to widely spaced rollers in the ocean.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjykczeD0Uc

I was in wicked won in that run and they were 3-4s. Anyone who thinks they were out on Lake Michigan running in 8-10s is high as a kite. Whoever was driving that 46 needs to learn how to trim a boat

It's a loaded question. If high speed isn't a priority, I'd pick a 38 or 44 Magnum myself. Guy I know converted a shaft driven 38 to KaMeWa jets commuting between Vancouver to Queen Charlotte Island. I'd take that boat over any of the topgun offshore boats and stay relatively dry.

http://catalog.boat24.com/motorboats...zai/2010/5428/

That looks like a ton of fun!

lets size this up, the average height from floor to ceiling in a house is 8-9ft if that 46 was in 8-10ft waves would be crashing over the bow.

You guys all have the words from THE GUY DRIVING THE BOAT. I think he has some experience with trim, as well...these pics are from the Chicago Poker Run in 2006. Scott and Wyatt in a 38 Fountain in typical tossed Lake Michigan 4-6 footers. Trust me...if the waves were 8', there would not have been many boats out that day, as there's really not much fun in driving when the boat is acting like the 46 in the video. I have tried it in 5-7s(oh yeah I remember that marine forecast!) in my 35 Fountain....couldn't go over 25 mph (wife had called me a wimp and really wanted to get to the city for the Chicago Scene Boat Party...when we got there, she said maybe it wasn't the best idea...)

My vid coming back from Key West in 2012 in the AT got criticized all the hell on here saying the waves weren't 6 footers...but we could only run about 30 mph, and I couldn't see out of the troughs...the waves were well over Pat's head, and he's 6' tall. I'm just happy he was driving...

More fun from that day...

What a lot of people fail to realize is the wave spacing makes a big difference. For example read some of this link, and look at the chart regarding small craft advisory. For example, say you are in the pacific or Atlantic in open ocean swells at 9 feet with an 11 second wave period. That is not even considered a small craft advisory. Now say you are in the Long Island sound and they are stacked up but only at 6 feet with a 7 second spacing, now it is a small craft advisory. So, depending on spacing 9 foot waves may not constitute an advisory but 6 foot waves might. The chart is down the page a ways, but it is some interesting reading for those who want to claim the size of the seas they run: http://www.nws.noaa.gov/os/marine/faq.htm

Actually if anybody by Lake Michigan today it is a small craft warning inshore and a gail warning offshore. Somebody should snap some pics..........

I agree with others that say it's very difficult to judge water conditions in videos. So many times I've been in a boat that was really moving and through some decent size water. After reviewing the videos, the sense of speed is seldom there and the water always looks way calmer than it actually was.

I doubt those waves in this video were true 15's, but I have been in a 46 Cig before and I know it takes some decent size water to toss the bow around like that, 2'-4' waves wont do it. The only way to run hard through conditions like that is with a Sweet Sixteen! ;)

Scott, congrats on the sale! I hope to see the new owner posting here, Strip is a cool boat...

I was in 15 ft waves on a 65' viking sport fish and that was a rough day! I would not even think of attempting it in a go fast!

Those pics are awesome!

Doesn't matter how good the boat rides or how big it is, when its rough you are mother natures b!tch

Let me clarify. Waves, whether fresh or salt, can be closely spaced or widely spaced depending on the period of the waves. The NOAA calls TIDES very long period waves. We have both long and short period days down here like I am sure you have up there. In my post #25 above the waves in the Gulf had a short period that day and it was very rough and uncomfortable and a little scary at my level of experience. But iPhone or no phone, GoPro or digital camera, I don't buy 8, 12, or 15' waves. Just replay the original video and freeze it on the wake shots at the rear of the boat and look at the waves. 4' max.

Correct me if I am wrong but isn't the height of a wave measured on the back side. So if you are out in 8-10's you would be facing a 16-20' wall of water. I live on Lake Ontario and when NOAA calls for 3-4' we think long and hard if it is worth going out to beat the crap out of our selves and boat.