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sommerfliesby 01-27-2014 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4064021)
Maybe sommerfliesby can chime in on this. I went out for a ride on his 37 with 525s last spring. It was a brisk cool sunny day with great air temps. 3 guys on board. We went out and ran in some real snotty lake Michigan water. I was impressed with the boats ride and handling in the rough water. We got inside the breakwall area in protected waters, with probably around a 1-2ft chop. He put the throttles to the mat, I believe we were seeing 78-80 that day turning about 5200-5300rpm?. Which in my eyes, isn't anything to be ashamed of for such a large boat, with stock 525's. However, I would have a hard time believing he has 10mph in his setup with prop work and a light load. I can see saltwater and sea level in florida being worth a couple two three mph though. I know Mike logged some good time on his boat since he purchased it, maybe he can weigh in with some speed numbers on his particular vessel.

Best I saw all summer was 82.9. BUT...and this plays a big part in things, if you ask me...its all in how you use the boat. The 36 OL buyer is most likely going to be a person that appreciates speed first and foremost...and might not be planning on overnighting as much. I bought my boat with camping out every weekend in mind...the speed was VERY secondary to me. I appreciate the fact that the boat is an 80 mph ride everyday, but, in all honesty...Joe, when we went out that day, that was one of the only times all summer I even held it wide open, and even then, it was only for less than a minute. In addition, I was full up on fuel (as I usually am).

Dan...the fact that a 37 AT has run 90 with 525s has been hashed over again and again...but ALWAYS comes with the caveat of $6k worth of Herring props. I found a set of Herrings before I took delivery of the boat, and contacted Pat about what he thought about putting them on. He recommended against it due to the stress that would be placed on the drives, as getting out of the hole was VERY difficult with them on. I don't think Pat is "trolling" a thread when it is his boats that are being discussed, and nobody knows them quite like he does...

I love all these comparison threads...they seem to bring out the best and worst in comments. Also the informed and uninformed! And with Brownie's contribution...well...the master has spoken.

Wildman_grafix 01-27-2014 10:45 AM

A 35 Outlaw is really 38? You mean with the bolt on swim?

Just asking, thread went all over the place so why not,

abmotorman 01-27-2014 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix (Post 4064098)
A 35 Outlaw is really 38? You mean with the bolt on swim?

Just asking, thread went all over the place so why not,

And the drives trimmed all the way up. Maybe a little anchor line hanging off the front too. :angry-smiley-038:

Sydwayz 01-27-2014 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix (Post 4064098)
A 35 Outlaw is really 38? You mean with the bolt on swim?

Just asking, thread went all over the place so why not,

Pure speculation:
When you flip the anchor locker open, and view it from the just the right aft angle; it looks like pulpit and BOOM! 39' Baja. :stooges:

ICDEDPPL 01-27-2014 11:56 AM

Whenever I post in the AT forum pat tells me that I'm trolling even though I used to own one, so I flipped it around.

MonkeySea2 01-27-2014 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by Captain YARRR (Post 4063155)
These pictures are comforting...as a young single guy I kinda fear the whole wife/kids thing somewhat because I think it could be the end of boating, but after seeing all these pics, apparently not!

I used to have friends who told me once I got married and had kids, my boating days would most certainly be over. NOT!! You get the kids on the boat when they're in diapers and they grow up loving the water. I have 2 daughters, 5 & 9 who have started to ask me "Dad, are we going on the boat today?" Right after I got married, I took my wife to a boat show and got her hooked immediately too. Boating is a wonderful family activity and forces you to spend quality time together since you're confined to the boat. We made lots of friends on the lake and the family can't wait to get out with friends every weekend. Granted, my style of boat changed a bit and some compromises had to be made, but I'm on the water and that's what counts. Just don't get to point B as fast as I'd like!!:)

Somethin' Sexy 01-27-2014 03:05 PM

2001 32' Active Thunder, non step, twin 500's 3/4 fuel 6 people, 2011 Texas Outlaw Challenge registed GPS 82.7. That was my official turn in speed.

1999 37' Active Thunder, step, ordered and owned by Roy "Thunder Roy" Schneider, twin 500's with extension boxes, hit 90mph, all day, anyday.


Feel free to confirm the #'s Pat. You make an awesome product.

Comparing a Baja to Active Thunder, because of high sales #'s, is like comparing Meridian to Viking...

BrettM 01-27-2014 04:21 PM

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Here is a picture of the attitude of the 36SL at cruise for those of you asking about running surface while under way. The boat runs very flat and it extremely stable at all speeds. We will have two 2014 Outerlimits 36SL's at the Miami show. The blue 520 boat will be in the water at Sea Isle. The 565 boat will be in the Outerlimits display outside at the convention center under tent. Come see the Outerlimits Powerboat and Performance Boat Center crews and determine for yourself which boat better fits your needs.

On a side note, if we were comparing a similar hull between Active Thunder 37 and Outerlimits, I would have to put the 37 AT up against the 37 Stiletto. Both are 37FT, bolt on swim platforms, single step, side by side seating, Tall top cap which results in a large cabin. The 37AT and 36SL are two completely different boats built for 2 completely different markets.

Panther 01-27-2014 04:55 PM


Originally Posted by BrettM (Post 4064279)
On a side note, if we were comparing a similar hull between Active Thunder 37 and Outerlimits, I would have to put the 37 AT up against the 37 Stiletto. Both are 37FT, bolt on swim platforms, single step, side by side seating, Tall top cap which results in a large cabin. The 37AT and 36SL are two completely different boats built for 2 completely different markets.

I think that's a good point. The design is probably similar in age as well. In fact, I still feel that the Stiletto was one of OL's best boats they made from both a styling perspective and ride quality. I wish they still made them. One a friend owned ran about 76mph with HP500's, extension boxes and "fully" appointed cabin on labbed props. Another had 850's and ran 103mph.

Orange quatro 01-27-2014 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 302Sport (Post 4063967)
I agree, its the same as Outerlimits claiming a 39 Quatro runs high 90's with 525's when it is really a 90mph boat..

Wanna bet?[ATTACH=CONFIG]517279[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]517279[/ATTACH]
Now thats an efficient hull…
This was done with Herrings on it and Herrring has this recorded also


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