Tommy you and justabum might jut have a new dos equis commercial. Very interesting even though I don't know any of the players, couldn't make this up could you? what a saga and a testament to the 80s, to bad I was 3000 miles away.

Lucy on here I believe keeps regular contact with ben. he is aware of oso and has read threads about himself here.

as the sticker on my drive guard says "free ben Kramer"

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If he is only guilty of Importation I believe it is a crime against him for doing the time he has done.A few years at most for the laundering thing but hey I would do that for the money,

Now if he had anything to do with a murder that is a whole different story. One thing if it is another person in the biz that deserved it for possibly a previous killing but if he had anything to do with Aronow whether he was screwed or not by him ,killing him was not the way to handle it.

I will ask anyone on here how they would feel if someone they loved husband, wife, father and mother or god forbid their children were murdered for revenge..

Hey I hope some evidence surfaces and the previous charges against him for the Aronow dealings are found to be false . If they can positively prove that some other person .group or Cartel had something to do with it

But so far the jury and the timing weighs on the disagreement Ben had with Aronow that was outstanding.

From a Original Quote by Mr Saccenti


In 1982, I brought the Kramer’s into Apache as my partners, sold my interest in Hawk Marine Power and absorbed Race Headquarters, its crew and all its equipment into Apache. The first order of business was to produce the baddest wave buster’s money could buy. Since the tooling for my new 39’ offshore was still months away from completion, I went to the King himself, Don Aronow, and made arrangements to purchase a new 41’ mold he had just completed. The first boat out of the mold was blue and tan and Benny called it “Warpath”.



Ok I just figured out who is in possession of the 39 mold that Mr Saccenti mentions that he was in the process of building for his own company before partnering up with Ben and buying the infamous 41 Apache mold from Aronow.

That mold he speaks about was the mold that was stolen and recovered is now back in the hands of Banana boat company who bought it from him.

Now where did the 41 mold come from that Saber had?


And who was the Company out of Ohio he mentioned that was building half price Apaches?

Also what ever happened to the new 41 straight and step molds that Steve built for Thad Allen?

A Inquiring mind wants to know?

I believe paper copies have been given to him.

There is a saying - don't EVER mess with a man's money or his wife. And in the 80's/90's revenge was a "thing".

Contraband

Sooo Jusabum What brings you to this site and to just happen to post here?

Oh ok...thanks. I just needed to understand a good reason for premeditated murder, now that it's just a "thing" I think I'll go out and whack some people, kinda bored today, need something to pick me up.