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Comanche3Six 10-10-2015 09:42 PM


Originally Posted by SABER28 (Post 4364805)
even if Kramer had aronow killed ( I don't buy it) he would have been paroled by now.

hes got life for the rico statue.

Not if he got the electric chair.

Don's friends will make sure that life sentence is carried out in full!!!!

lucky strike 10-13-2015 07:53 PM


Originally Posted by lucky strike (Post 4208599)
I built my new Cig race boat that winter.
I believe the 28 cig in the photo was the Miami boat show boat.[ATTACH=CONFIG]531490[/ATTACH]

Ya they took my hull I ordered months before, and instead of giving it to me they used it in the Miami boat show and I had to miss the 1st race in California that year because the boat wasn't done in time to start the the season off.

No points for the 1st race of the season... So Sutphen took over... In APBA...1979. Hard to play catch up in the points.
It really didn't make any difference because, Sutphen had much more speed with the same power than my 28 Cigarette SS.
Live and learn...


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onesickpantera 10-14-2015 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by SABER28 (Post 4364805)
even if Kramer had aronow killed ( I don't buy it) he would have been paroled by now.

hes got life for the rico statue.

Exactly. I think his sentence for Aronow is up this year.

cig92 10-14-2015 07:14 PM

He has 2 separate sentences and he will not be getting out any time soon.

tommymonza 10-14-2015 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by lucky strike (Post 4365864)
Ya they took my hull I ordered months before, and instead of giving it to me they used it in the Miami boat show and I had to miss the 1st race in California that year because the boat wasn't done in time to start the the season off.

No points for the 1st race of the season... So Sutphen took over... In APBA...1979. Hard to play catch up in the points.
It really didn't make any difference because, Sutphen had much more speed with the same power than my 28 Cigarette SS.
Live and learn...


u

I think I was at that show in 78. They had a 20 and a 28 and 35 all painted the same on display . Used to have the pics until a few years ago

onesickpantera 10-14-2015 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by cig92 (Post 4366250)
He has 2 separate sentences and he will not be getting out any time soon.

Well since he got life for the drug charges I agree. I think the 19 year sentence for manslaughter is up this year.

JRider 10-15-2015 07:02 AM

Since the Manslaughter conviction was after the drug conviction he just might be eligible for parole with new sentencing guidelines.

Greatguy66 10-15-2015 06:33 PM

Friends?:rolleyes:

Comanche3Six 10-15-2015 10:00 PM


Originally Posted by onesickpantera (Post 4366275)
Well since he got life for the drug charges I agree. I think the 19 year sentence for manslaughter is up this year.

I'm not a lawyer, I'm not an expert.
Can you serve State time in a Federal Prison? Probably not. What that means is if his Federal bid expires he could be shipped to State prison and do time for the Aronow charge and the attempted escape charge. Seen it done, but the opposite way to Terrance Karl Alden, from State to Federal. You play serious, they play serious.

phragle 10-15-2015 10:53 PM

He may have had a prayer if it weren't for the hollywood helicopter escapade..... That probably sealed his fate right there


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