Originally Posted by chaser

Dear Mr. Jupiter Sunsation.Just to let you know how much your opion affects SBI races. We have NEVER, EVER stopped a race for an accident on the race coarse. An acident does not warrant that the race be Stopped. If you have ever been in a race you would know that. . Just in case you don't think I know what I'm talking about. I am the person that is almost always by Carbonell side during the races. And was by his side and on the radio during the race in Question.

Originally Posted by phragle

Jupiter, since you brought up Mcdonalds coffee, do you have any clue on the facts of that case??

1.McD's had settled a previous case by stating coffee temps would be turned down. The fact that they did not do what they agreed to weighed heavily on the verdict.

2.The dollar figure for the award was not a randomly chosen astronomical figure. The award was based on McD's 24 hour 1 day coffee sales

3. The award was later reduced.

Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation

treme, X100, Klaat and other racers,

I posted on this thread on purpose to make a point. I would consider myself an outsider to racing and rescues, just like the jury or Joe Public reading about the case in the newspaper. By posting as an outsider to this issue I intended to get you to see how the case is being seen by others, not from your perspective which may cloud your outlook (either from race experiences, feelings about SBI or being friends with the guys that died that year). I have done threads like this in the past, though admittedly I started the thread whereas this one I chimed in early on page one, taking Matt's article and turning the thread into somewhat of a debate.

While I will never be a competitor in offshore racing as it doesn't interest me one bit you may want to consider how an outsider sees the racing even from a spectator/ town resident/ voting perspective. This case is going to make history if the judgment is in the millions and favors the plaintiffs. Everyone remembers the McDonald's coffee spill where the woman got over 1mm for spilled hot coffee right? The KW case will stick in people's memories for years, potentially making races not welcome in host cities for fear of getting sued, locals might fear the "dangerous racing" going on in their town, sponsors might not want to associate with a promoter that has had huge judgments because of safety issues. Your reactions speak volumes of how much change is going to be in your future if you continue to race because the decisions are going to be made for you, not by you. Some actual feel not stopping the race isn't crucial for safety because that is the way they always did it. Common sense, (yep from an outsider) would think that is crazy. Cops stop traffic, re-route it in a rescue/car extraction even if cars are traveling on paved roads with brakes so to consider 100 mph+ passes with wakes bouncing around, boats (with no brakes) seems insane especially considering they are racing for a trophy!!!

Look at the "likes" on this thread on my responses as well as the racers responses and you can see both sides. SBI can get out of this with the insurance company stroking the check this time but don't be surprised if things change in the future. You have already seen KW want to pull the plug on past races (through less financial support) and SBI threatened to go to another city. This case is huge for both SBI and all of its host cities.

Originally Posted by c12

Hard to make a point when you don't have the correct facts
so now that we have the correct facts about who we are talking about.

Jack Carmody (RIP) race was not stopped
I'm pretty sure the race Stefano (RIP) was killed in was stopped.
and as you said the last one was during testing.

Originally Posted by c12

Just to set the record straight, Art Lilly was not in the boat when Jack Carmody (RIP) was Killed, Dan Jackson was the Throttleman. Steve Curtis was not in the boat when Stefano (RIP) was killed, Stefano was the Throttleman as well. and Charlie Haimes accident, with Randy Linebach (RIP) was during testing , not a race.

Originally Posted by c12

Just to set the record straight, Art Lilly was not in the boat when Jack Carmody (RIP) was Killed, Dan Jackson was the Throttleman. Steve Curtis was not in the boat when Stefano (RIP) was killed, Stefano was the Throttleman as well. and Charlie Haimes accident, with Randy Linebach (RIP) was during testing , not a race.

Originally Posted by Interceptor

Wow, sitting at the side of god, you must be a big shot SBI official. Answer this, isn't it odd that major racing bodies will stop a race due to an accident and they also respond significantly faster and there is no threat of drowning. So why wouldn't SBI ?