So that tanish fuzz we are seeing is Kevlar not foam core ? What is the blue bedding used for. . To attach the core ?

What coring are NTs built with Dave?

yes that fuzz is Kevlar. The blue is bedding and filling compound used to fill gaps, cavities as well as bed the core in. The strakes are probably superficial and only have a layer or two of glass covering them. When the boat is built the mold is gelled and a layer of mat is put down first for print control and a single layer is put over the strakes (or possible entire hull) then the strakes are filled with core, looks like H80 in this case, and allowed to cure. Then the filled area is sanded flat and the hull can be layed up in a more uniform consistent manor without having to deal with tucking fabric into the strakes on every layer. They could be literally sanded completely off and would not affect the strength of the hull.

Couple of observations we can all learn from. OSO serves our boating community by bringing together the masses for the benefit of those 'wronged.' However, OSO has long been a hotbed for unsubstantiated assumptions and quick responses. Nuke vented frustration, without substantially impugning the seller's integrity. Kilo was properly defensive of his reputation while forthcoming about everything he knew. In the meantime, many people jump on one side and expanded the dialog vitriol and accusations.

I cannot see where the dealer is at fault. The flaw was not visible and a surveyor had validated the boat. If anything, perhaps the surveyor's errors & omissions coverage could come into play. But I cannot say whether a surveyor is supposed to crawl under the boat with a ball peen hammer to detect every inch of the hull. (As a buyer, I would hope they do this.)

Perhaps the vitriol on this thread called out the parties involved, which resulted in the buyer and seller collaborating. But in most cases, we simply get a heated, one-sides debate and reuptations are tarnished (many, rightfully so.) But as this situation reveals, perhaps everyone should be slower to judge and comment. You never know when the situation will turn from disappointment to delight.

The lesson is to be patient and calculating when posting on threads like this. If someone like Kilo steps up and does something honorable, many of the posters will regret what they said about him. And even though you can go back and delete your prior posts, they are always in the archives of OSO (and any site for that matter).

Glad this matter is working out and now we can look forward to two beautiful, enviable boats running around our waters.

Dealer pulled the "wow that sucks card" followed by the "what do you expect us to do" and then closed with "we just sold it, we are only the broker excuse." I would pass on buying anything from LCM.

Kilo was a standup guy in all of this (check how many "likes" he had on his response where he put his money where his mouth is post). Buyer bought a 8-9 year old boat for a decent chunk of change but at the end of the day it is just another used boat. Surveyor didn't even get paid by the buyer so I would say he is out of the mix......sounded like his survey wasn't worth much anyway.

Why was it LCM's fault? Did they represent the boat to be flawless? It's a USED boat. Is it their responsibility to go through every inch of the boat, and I mean EVERY inch since these lines of accusations can come from any issue? What happens if a part in the engine was near the end of it's life and it breaks the first time out? You gonna go back to them on that too?

Sorry, I'll be the dissenting opinion here on this thread, I don't see their culpability here unless they performed the repair which is baseless at this point. This is why there's a survey. Maybe this should have been caught, maybe it's a reasonable miss, I didn't pay for the survey and discuss the specifics of what or what wouldn't be done. Not enough info here to rush to judgement. What was the scope of work the surveyor agreed to? Could this repair pass a tap or visual test and only fail when stressed?

And I'll be the dissenting opinion here and state that I don't think it's the seller's responsibility either, what he did was above and beyond IMO. His name which is in good standing from what we can tell was brought up over the internet with an implied impropriety, it would concern me greatly and I'd probably be inclined to help out just to clear it even though it was no fault of my own. The buyer can state how he didn't accuse the seller, but we can all read between the lines. This is a real stretch to state something like this over the internet: "I’m guessing he just wanted to screw somebody to save a buck or he got screwed on the repair himself." Well which is it? Before you (Nuke) make a statement like that over the internet you'd better bring more than that to the table, I'd be mighty pissed if I were the seller and you'd pulled something like that. You're using speculation as leverage.

From the info stated here, the seller brought the boat to a shop that was supposed to be professional and do the right thing, pay for the repair and move on. How is it his responsibility if it is not he who performed the repairs? It's easy for a shop to pull the wool over someone's eye, not only a fiberglass shop but any vendor wether it be a car mechanic, home contractor, et al. That's why we hire people, because they're supposed to be professional and be experts in their field of choice. I don't know squat about fiberglass repair, if the shop described to me the failure and subsequent repair strategy I'd go with it, why wouldn't I?

Looks like the seller paid into this as a result of the repair shop's shoddy work, above and beyond IMO. The repair shop has some answering to do as far as I'm concerned.

so if a realtor sells you a house and then you discover the basement has a leak after you move in,do you expect the realtor to pay for the repairs?

I agree with everything you are saying,
but keep in mind this is OSO and most people will jump on the band wagon and voice a opinion with out having any first hand knowledge, sad but true.

I like to add one more thing,I just bought a boat and the owner supplied me with a recent survey he had done,although I liked seen what HIS surveyor had to say I had another survey done for my own piece of mind.
you can only protect yourself so much and once something happens you fix it and move,

No, in the realty world, generally the previous owner pays for the repairs in that situation, unless the leak was noted on the disclosure.
http://real-estate.lawyers.com/resid...e-defects.html

exactly you made my point,the realtor is not held responsible just like the selling dealer in this case should not be held responsible.