24' Pantera vs. 24' SuperBoat
10-09-2002 | 07:31 PM
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I think Pantera has made the 24 since the mid 70s, '75 '76? I think the only one to have a chance a preceding it is the P & D? Maybe? i thought they were all based from the 24 cig or magnum?. I really don't know but sharing my thought process.
Fast eddy your a heck of a racer!
Fast eddy your a heck of a racer!
10-09-2002 | 07:35 PM
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From: Long Island,N.Y.
Eddy,
I find your comments most interesting..
You say you , "never sat here and bashed Progressions" and then that's what you go and do ! Come on !
The worst handling boats ? - I don't think so - Does having or not having a liner make a boat better ? - I think that's all subjective..as far as defacing your truck - a##holes plain and simple..whoever they were .
There's a whole lot more and another side to the Jim Arvis story..lets leave it at that .
I own a Progression and I'm happy with my choice . I also like Superboats and have said so many times on this board . Hey - I almost bought one . In fact I met you when John was showing me the factory and you were finishing up the race boat !
It was and still is awesome .
In terms of racing , neither of these two manufacturers are exactly tearing up the field . The fact of the matter is that Kryptonite and Activator have dominated the F-1 class for the last two years as far as I can recall . Somehow , we forget that there are another two high quality boats being manufactured here on the island !
My point is that BOTH Progression AND Superboat owners are proud of their boats and have a right to be but neither of them are necessarily the fastest..the quickest boats (comparable size) I saw all Summer were a white Activator in the rough stuff and a yellow Kryptonite that allegedly does close to 100 !
Run your boat out in Hampton Bays and I promise to wave at you and buy you a drink at Oakland's by the inlet.
Take 'er easy !
- - Wes
I find your comments most interesting..
You say you , "never sat here and bashed Progressions" and then that's what you go and do ! Come on !
The worst handling boats ? - I don't think so - Does having or not having a liner make a boat better ? - I think that's all subjective..as far as defacing your truck - a##holes plain and simple..whoever they were .
There's a whole lot more and another side to the Jim Arvis story..lets leave it at that .
I own a Progression and I'm happy with my choice . I also like Superboats and have said so many times on this board . Hey - I almost bought one . In fact I met you when John was showing me the factory and you were finishing up the race boat !
It was and still is awesome .
In terms of racing , neither of these two manufacturers are exactly tearing up the field . The fact of the matter is that Kryptonite and Activator have dominated the F-1 class for the last two years as far as I can recall . Somehow , we forget that there are another two high quality boats being manufactured here on the island !
My point is that BOTH Progression AND Superboat owners are proud of their boats and have a right to be but neither of them are necessarily the fastest..the quickest boats (comparable size) I saw all Summer were a white Activator in the rough stuff and a yellow Kryptonite that allegedly does close to 100 !
Run your boat out in Hampton Bays and I promise to wave at you and buy you a drink at Oakland's by the inlet.
Take 'er easy !
- - Wes
10-09-2002 | 07:51 PM
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WAYNE - When you type in caps its yelling.... I think its safe to say you & I will never agree.... So I'll leave this by saying... Who invited Progression into a thread titled Pantera 24 vs Superboat 24?
LASTER - I have a 4 O'Clock wedding Sat & 2 Soccer games sunday so I'm out for this weekend.... From what SHANE tells me... and he has been in my boat.... You run early 90's... I run early 80's.... I concede.... my boat has a naturally aspirated 454... SHANE said you run a 502 blower motor? Have a great day on Lake George.... I hope you get perfect weather.... I'm outta HERE.... but not before saying
SUPERBOAT OR NO BOAT
LASTER - I have a 4 O'Clock wedding Sat & 2 Soccer games sunday so I'm out for this weekend.... From what SHANE tells me... and he has been in my boat.... You run early 90's... I run early 80's.... I concede.... my boat has a naturally aspirated 454... SHANE said you run a 502 blower motor? Have a great day on Lake George.... I hope you get perfect weather.... I'm outta HERE.... but not before saying
SUPERBOAT OR NO BOAT
10-09-2002 | 08:01 PM
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Originally posted by RLW
I don't usually chime in on these pissing contest but, we already have a Long Island Manufacturers Race in the works in Freeport, Grand Bahama Island this coming October 19th.
Where is Progression and Superboat? Hmmm?
Oh Yeah, it's an ocean race.
I don't usually chime in on these pissing contest but, we already have a Long Island Manufacturers Race in the works in Freeport, Grand Bahama Island this coming October 19th.
Where is Progression and Superboat? Hmmm?
Oh Yeah, it's an ocean race.
10-09-2002 | 08:06 PM
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GRH, sorry you won't be able to make it this weekend. I hope we will be able to hook up next season as I really do want to see your boat. You see, I have never ridden in a 24 Superboat (had a short ride in a 21 once) and would love to see first hand how it compares. I am not really a gung ho racer, I was just kidding around. Shane is right but he shouldn't be passing out that kind of info, kinda spoils the surprise.
I have a lot of respect for all of the boats being discussed and don't want to contribute to the general pissing contest that this has become. If anyone has questions about the Progression 24 I would be happy to answer in a PM.
I have a lot of respect for all of the boats being discussed and don't want to contribute to the general pissing contest that this has become. If anyone has questions about the Progression 24 I would be happy to answer in a PM.
10-09-2002 | 08:21 PM
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LASTER - You sound like someone I could spend the day BS'in about boats with.... Are you a regular on Lake George? I'm on Sacandaga.... half hour ride from LG Village... great lake ... no speed limits(yet) .... If you are a regular on LG I'd be happy to show you around Sacandaga... you'd like it... not as wide as LG & not nearly as many boats on the weekend.... makes for more opportunity to run 60-70 for a few miles at a time.... anyway I'm real disappointed I can't make this weekend.... and I'd like very much to see your boat... from what SHANE has told me its beautiful.... the only progression I ever rode/drove in was a 237 with 2.5 EFI.... 95..96?.... I was impressed with the boat... I believe it ran 70ish with 2 people & a ton of fuel & beer .... handled like it was on a railroad track.... thats my only expirience so I have no axe to grind!.... Keep in touch .....
.... handled like it was on a railroad track.... thats my only expirience so I have no axe to grind!.... Keep in touch .....
10-09-2002 | 08:33 PM
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Wayne,
Accuse the right people. I have not once bashed Progression, Superboat or Pantera. On the contrary I said that when I choose my next bost I will have a tough time. I did, however, point out what I thought were each boat's strengths. As far as pricing is concerned I don't want to give away any trade information that is not appropriate, but suffice it to say that Superboats are much less expensive than Progressions, and for obvious reasons. So again, if you;re looking for a fight you are barking up the wrong tree and no I'm not Mr Offshore and I don't need to be either.
Accuse the right people. I have not once bashed Progression, Superboat or Pantera. On the contrary I said that when I choose my next bost I will have a tough time. I did, however, point out what I thought were each boat's strengths. As far as pricing is concerned I don't want to give away any trade information that is not appropriate, but suffice it to say that Superboats are much less expensive than Progressions, and for obvious reasons. So again, if you;re looking for a fight you are barking up the wrong tree and no I'm not Mr Offshore and I don't need to be either.
10-09-2002 | 08:43 PM
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At the New York QUOTE]Originally posted by fastedy
[B], At the New York
race this year some one wrote ASS HOLE on the back of my Explorer (w/SUPERBOAT taggs) and signed it PROGRESSION OWNER, what the F..., maybe if they new me I would understand. Maybe because you parked in front of the truck and boat that was marked off with orange cones. And two other vehicles had to move to get the rig out .And it was signed Walter I believe. Remember flat palm up means hello
[B], At the New York
race this year some one wrote ASS HOLE on the back of my Explorer (w/SUPERBOAT taggs) and signed it PROGRESSION OWNER, what the F..., maybe if they new me I would understand. Maybe because you parked in front of the truck and boat that was marked off with orange cones. And two other vehicles had to move to get the rig out .And it was signed Walter I believe. Remember flat palm up means hello
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