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Old 11-17-2016 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by lavey jr
Noted.
As for this timing topic and rev limit. From my knowledge you'll be able to set all this based off of the load that's being placed on the engine. So the very moment the engine/computer detects a lower load it can pull anything you want weather it be timing and/or fuel to reduce the torque the engine is putting out and then as soon as it detects more/normal load it returns to normal. This seems similar to modern day cars when they switch back and forth to open/closed loop depending on throttle input and load in order to provide less power to improve the engines consumption/efficiency. So in a boat application if you leave the water the engine will free rev (less load) and then the computer will pull the parameters, as soon as you enter the water it will sense the load and return to normal.
Speculating on this lets say the the computer is slightly slow to put full power back, it wouldn't be substantially noticeable and possibly could even act as a helper to gradually lay back into full power rather than just nailing the equipment. In turn help decrease load spike on the equipment.
This is all speculation because I do not know much at all about the whole engine building and tuning...
You are exactly correct
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Old 11-17-2016 | 09:47 PM
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If that motor is running at 100kpa and comes out of the water that ecu is not going to have a clue unless it hits a rev limiter. Or it looks at RPM increase over time. Someone help me.
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Old 11-17-2016 | 09:53 PM
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I would like to see a pair of bravo lowers mounted to a #6 upper. Would not be that hard to do. Ask Tyson be a walk in the park for him. Big silver cat.
I was thinking a splitter after the engine but I like your idea too. The real cure is that beefy duo prop surface drive that scs? Was working on. Someone needs to put more effort in that for these high HP singles. With all the power available these days you could push 35' boats with a single.
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Old 11-17-2016 | 09:55 PM
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If that motor is running at 100kpa and comes out of the water that ecu is not going to have a clue unless it hits a rev limiter. Or it looks at RPM increase over time. Someone help me.
*if* the pilot chops the throttle, there will be a vacuum spike. If the pilot does not chop the throttle, the rpm will go into the hysteresis zone and start pulling timing until the engine lays over or hits the hard limit and it will NOT go over the hard limit by more than about 20 rpm at the very most.
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Old 11-17-2016 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by hogie roll
I was thinking a splitter after the engine but I like your idea too. The real cure is that beefy duo prop surface drive that scs? Was working on. Someone needs to put more effort in that for these high HP singles. With all the power available these days you could push 35' boats with a single.
And sea tow for the trip home. LOL I think the adapter for twin bravo to a #6 would not be that bad.
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Old 11-17-2016 | 10:01 PM
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*if* the pilot chops the throttle, there will be a vacuum spike. If the pilot does not chop the throttle, the rpm will go into the hysteresis zone and start pulling timing until the engine lays over or hits the hard limit and it will NOT go over the hard limit by more than about 20 rpm at the very most.
Only asking have you bin in a 100mph boat in 4ft seas and hit a hole you don't see? I watch my tach go to 7000 before I could blink or think about pulling back on the throttles. Don't take that the wrong way just asking.
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Old 11-17-2016 | 10:07 PM
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Only ecu I know of is motec it has a GPS and it can control rpm to MPH so you may have a few hundred rpm or how ever you set it up that would win throttle by wire.
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Old 11-17-2016 | 10:08 PM
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And sea tow for the trip home. LOL I think the adapter for twin bravo to a #6 would not be that bad.
NBD, no one goes offshore anyways
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NBD, no one goes offshore anyways
LOL that's true.
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Old 11-17-2016 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 14 apache
Only asking have you bin in a 100mph boat in 4ft seas and hit a hole you don't see? I watch my tach go to 7000 before I could blink or think about pulling back on the throttles. Don't take that the wrong way just asking.
I have never been in a 100mph boat. I will say this................... you can take a car with MS3pro and I'm talking something bad-a$$ and you can drill the throttle in neutral and it won't go past the rev-limiter..... I know this because I had a customer who forgot to set the 2-step and he was going to show how well it worked. Only thing was, he forgot to put the clutch in so instead of 4500rpm it went to 7800 rpm.......... and hung there.

I'm not saying I have all of the answers for every scenario but I'm saying this ecu is light years ahead of whats in most marine applications right now excluding the MoTec which is also very very good. I could do GPS mph with timing control, not with throttle control (but you can't close an electronic throttle faster than I can pull timing)
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