LOTO Boat Crash
09-09-2020 | 06:20 PM
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This website gets more ridiculous by the day. If the driver of this boat was a well respected member of OSO, he would be defended every way possible. Because he is not a member here, he needs to go to prison, a D-bag (insert) !! All you guys pile on like a pack of wolfs..It's so obvious everyone of you don't drink and drive, wear your lanyards, PFD on at all times and obey every single law there is! Must be a bunch of bubble boys! 5 pages of non-sense!!
I don't car who you are..... There are procedures all Performance Boaters must do: DO NOT DRIVE AFTER DRINKING! I seriously do not care who you are, if you are BWI, You should go to jail forever.... If you want to know why I feel that way, let me know and I will send you the addresses of the parents and the story behind the 6 kids that were killed by a drunk driver. The second is wearing your lanyard while under way. IT IS NOT THAT TOUGH!
A lot more people are killed and or seriously injured by Sober people than people consuming alcohol. In a number of countries around the world drinking and driving is accepted behavior, within limits of course, yet they do not have an abnormal increase in accident rates. But actually harming someone is a crime. You go to jail drunk or sober until ability to provide restitution is proven for those that you injured and or killed.
It is not alcohol that causes accidents by it self, it is people making mistakes and or being negligent in the safe operation of a motor vehicle, works both ways intoxicated or sober.
Does not matter if you are drunk or sober, harm or kill someone. You Should Go To Jail.
In the US there is some absurd reasoning that drinking and driving and you harm or kill someone that is bad behavior. But if you are Sober it is completely acceptable behavior with no jail time at all, not even an arrest-able offense. The worst you might get is a citation, a summons to appear for some little driving infraction.
I stopped riding motorcycles in the US, after being hit a few times by sober drivers, and watching my friends get killed by Sober drivers. I am not aware of anyone that has ever gone to jail for killing people, if they were not drinking alcohol. Yet the people the sober people kill are just as dead. Not one of the people that killed my friends went to jail, nor were they arrested.
Please explain to me in detail. There are manslaughter laws, but outside of the intoxicated, terrorist or hate crime, no ones seems to be held responsible for killing people with a motor vehicle, even when they kill a whole family. Parents are sent to jail/prison for dropping their young child accidentally killing them. Why is it bad to kill people driving a motor vehicle while having consumed alcohol. But perfectly OK, totally acceptable and perfectly legal to kill people driving a motor vehicle while sober.
09-09-2020 | 06:33 PM
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Exactly, they sound like a bunch of bible thumping puritans, everyone else outside of their perfect little group is EVIL!
You sound like an insane bible thumper.
A lot more people are killed and or seriously injured by Sober people than people consuming alcohol. In a number of countries around the world drinking and driving is accepted behavior, within limits of course, yet they do not have an abnormal increase in accident rates. But actually harming someone is a crime. You go to jail drunk or sober until ability to provide restitution is proven for those that you injured and or killed.
It is not alcohol that causes accidents by it self, it is people making mistakes and or being negligent in the safe operation of a motor vehicle, works both ways intoxicated or sober.
Does not matter if you are drunk or sober, harm or kill someone. You Should Go To Jail.
In the US there is some absurd reasoning that drinking and driving and you harm or kill someone that is bad behavior. But if you are Sober it is completely acceptable behavior with no jail time at all, not even an arrest-able offense. The worst you might get is a citation, a summons to appear for some little driving infraction.
I stopped riding motorcycles in the US, after being hit a few times by sober drivers, and watching my friends get killed by Sober drivers. I am not aware of anyone that has ever gone to jail for killing people, if they were not drinking alcohol. Yet the people the sober people kill are just as dead. Not one of the people that killed my friends went to jail, nor were they arrested.
Please explain to me in detail. There are manslaughter laws, but outside of the intoxicated, terrorist or hate crime, no ones seems to be held responsible for killing people with a motor vehicle, even when they kill a whole family. Parents are sent to jail/prison for dropping their young child accidentally killing them. Why is it bad to kill people driving a motor vehicle while having consumed alcohol. But perfectly OK, totally acceptable and perfectly legal to kill people driving a motor vehicle while sober.
You sound like an insane bible thumper.
A lot more people are killed and or seriously injured by Sober people than people consuming alcohol. In a number of countries around the world drinking and driving is accepted behavior, within limits of course, yet they do not have an abnormal increase in accident rates. But actually harming someone is a crime. You go to jail drunk or sober until ability to provide restitution is proven for those that you injured and or killed.
It is not alcohol that causes accidents by it self, it is people making mistakes and or being negligent in the safe operation of a motor vehicle, works both ways intoxicated or sober.
Does not matter if you are drunk or sober, harm or kill someone. You Should Go To Jail.
In the US there is some absurd reasoning that drinking and driving and you harm or kill someone that is bad behavior. But if you are Sober it is completely acceptable behavior with no jail time at all, not even an arrest-able offense. The worst you might get is a citation, a summons to appear for some little driving infraction.
I stopped riding motorcycles in the US, after being hit a few times by sober drivers, and watching my friends get killed by Sober drivers. I am not aware of anyone that has ever gone to jail for killing people, if they were not drinking alcohol. Yet the people the sober people kill are just as dead. Not one of the people that killed my friends went to jail, nor were they arrested.
Please explain to me in detail. There are manslaughter laws, but outside of the intoxicated, terrorist or hate crime, no ones seems to be held responsible for killing people with a motor vehicle, even when they kill a whole family. Parents are sent to jail/prison for dropping their young child accidentally killing them. Why is it bad to kill people driving a motor vehicle while having consumed alcohol. But perfectly OK, totally acceptable and perfectly legal to kill people driving a motor vehicle while sober.
I had to pick up the pieces of 6 kids that were hit by a drunk driver when I was about 21 years old. We were one of the first people on the scene after it happened, LONG before the emergency people. Only to find out later that night one was a daughter of a close friend. Please do a ride along with your local emergency personnel on a couple of accidents where drinking was involved and let me know what you think then.
My serious stance on drinking and driving is simple, If you drink get a designated driver. It is not you I care about at all, I really don't care!!!! But if you hit a person or family that has not been drinking it is your fault, period, it is completely preventable!
Driving to excess in the US has consequences regardless if you are sober or otherwise, yes the penalties are worse for DWI, as they should be, but you will get hammered both criminally but in the US there is also the civil side which in most cases is life altering!
PLEASE stay in Mexico, you appear to be the reason we have border/immigration standards!
09-09-2020 | 06:33 PM
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Exactly, they sound like a bunch of bible thumping puritans, everyone else outside of their perfect little group is EVIL!
You sound like an insane bible thumper.
A lot more people are killed and or seriously injured by Sober people than people consuming alcohol. In a number of countries around the world drinking and driving is accepted behavior, within limits of course, yet they do not have an abnormal increase in accident rates. But actually harming someone is a crime. You go to jail drunk or sober until ability to provide restitution is proven for those that you injured and or killed.
It is not alcohol that causes accidents by it self, it is people making mistakes and or being negligent in the safe operation of a motor vehicle, works both ways intoxicated or sober.
Does not matter if you are drunk or sober, harm or kill someone. You Should Go To Jail.
In the US there is some absurd reasoning that drinking and driving and you harm or kill someone that is bad behavior. But if you are Sober it is completely acceptable behavior with no jail time at all, not even an arrest-able offense. The worst you might get is a citation, a summons to appear for some little driving infraction.
I stopped riding motorcycles in the US, after being hit a few times by sober drivers, and watching my friends get killed by Sober drivers. I am not aware of anyone that has ever gone to jail for killing people, if they were not drinking alcohol. Yet the people the sober people kill are just as dead. Not one of the people that killed my friends went to jail, nor were they arrested.
Please explain to me in detail. There are manslaughter laws, but outside of the intoxicated, terrorist or hate crime, no ones seems to be held responsible for killing people with a motor vehicle, even when they kill a whole family. Parents are sent to jail/prison for dropping their young child accidentally killing them. Why is it bad to kill people driving a motor vehicle while having consumed alcohol. But perfectly OK, totally acceptable and perfectly legal to kill people driving a motor vehicle while sober.
You sound like an insane bible thumper.
A lot more people are killed and or seriously injured by Sober people than people consuming alcohol. In a number of countries around the world drinking and driving is accepted behavior, within limits of course, yet they do not have an abnormal increase in accident rates. But actually harming someone is a crime. You go to jail drunk or sober until ability to provide restitution is proven for those that you injured and or killed.
It is not alcohol that causes accidents by it self, it is people making mistakes and or being negligent in the safe operation of a motor vehicle, works both ways intoxicated or sober.
Does not matter if you are drunk or sober, harm or kill someone. You Should Go To Jail.
In the US there is some absurd reasoning that drinking and driving and you harm or kill someone that is bad behavior. But if you are Sober it is completely acceptable behavior with no jail time at all, not even an arrest-able offense. The worst you might get is a citation, a summons to appear for some little driving infraction.
I stopped riding motorcycles in the US, after being hit a few times by sober drivers, and watching my friends get killed by Sober drivers. I am not aware of anyone that has ever gone to jail for killing people, if they were not drinking alcohol. Yet the people the sober people kill are just as dead. Not one of the people that killed my friends went to jail, nor were they arrested.
Please explain to me in detail. There are manslaughter laws, but outside of the intoxicated, terrorist or hate crime, no ones seems to be held responsible for killing people with a motor vehicle, even when they kill a whole family. Parents are sent to jail/prison for dropping their young child accidentally killing them. Why is it bad to kill people driving a motor vehicle while having consumed alcohol. But perfectly OK, totally acceptable and perfectly legal to kill people driving a motor vehicle while sober.
09-09-2020 | 06:50 PM
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Exactly, they sound like a bunch of bible thumping puritans, everyone else outside of their perfect little group is EVIL!
You sound like an insane bible thumper.
A lot more people are killed and or seriously injured by Sober people than people consuming alcohol. In a number of countries around the world drinking and driving is accepted behavior, within limits of course, yet they do not have an abnormal increase in accident rates. But actually harming someone is a crime. You go to jail drunk or sober until ability to provide restitution is proven for those that you injured and or killed.
It is not alcohol that causes accidents by it self, it is people making mistakes and or being negligent in the safe operation of a motor vehicle, works both ways intoxicated or sober.
Does not matter if you are drunk or sober, harm or kill someone. You Should Go To Jail.
In the US there is some absurd reasoning that drinking and driving and you harm or kill someone that is bad behavior. But if you are Sober it is completely acceptable behavior with no jail time at all, not even an arrest-able offense. The worst you might get is a citation, a summons to appear for some little driving infraction.
I stopped riding motorcycles in the US, after being hit a few times by sober drivers, and watching my friends get killed by Sober drivers. I am not aware of anyone that has ever gone to jail for killing people, if they were not drinking alcohol. Yet the people the sober people kill are just as dead. Not one of the people that killed my friends went to jail, nor were they arrested.
Please explain to me in detail. There are manslaughter laws, but outside of the intoxicated, terrorist or hate crime, no ones seems to be held responsible for killing people with a motor vehicle, even when they kill a whole family. Parents are sent to jail/prison for dropping their young child accidentally killing them. Why is it bad to kill people driving a motor vehicle while having consumed alcohol. But perfectly OK, totally acceptable and perfectly legal to kill people driving a motor vehicle while sober.
You sound like an insane bible thumper.
A lot more people are killed and or seriously injured by Sober people than people consuming alcohol. In a number of countries around the world drinking and driving is accepted behavior, within limits of course, yet they do not have an abnormal increase in accident rates. But actually harming someone is a crime. You go to jail drunk or sober until ability to provide restitution is proven for those that you injured and or killed.
It is not alcohol that causes accidents by it self, it is people making mistakes and or being negligent in the safe operation of a motor vehicle, works both ways intoxicated or sober.
Does not matter if you are drunk or sober, harm or kill someone. You Should Go To Jail.
In the US there is some absurd reasoning that drinking and driving and you harm or kill someone that is bad behavior. But if you are Sober it is completely acceptable behavior with no jail time at all, not even an arrest-able offense. The worst you might get is a citation, a summons to appear for some little driving infraction.
I stopped riding motorcycles in the US, after being hit a few times by sober drivers, and watching my friends get killed by Sober drivers. I am not aware of anyone that has ever gone to jail for killing people, if they were not drinking alcohol. Yet the people the sober people kill are just as dead. Not one of the people that killed my friends went to jail, nor were they arrested.
Please explain to me in detail. There are manslaughter laws, but outside of the intoxicated, terrorist or hate crime, no ones seems to be held responsible for killing people with a motor vehicle, even when they kill a whole family. Parents are sent to jail/prison for dropping their young child accidentally killing them. Why is it bad to kill people driving a motor vehicle while having consumed alcohol. But perfectly OK, totally acceptable and perfectly legal to kill people driving a motor vehicle while sober.
09-09-2020 | 07:11 PM
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Well we have now reached that point in an internet discussion where intelligent conversation has left the building as evidenced by the quoted post, but I have assisted you by editing it and condensing to more manageable levels.... you're welcome!
09-09-2020 | 07:49 PM
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just be careful guys there was a fatal night time accident not long ago in the loto a family was hurt and the mother died when broadsided by a impaired driver heres a link to the story https://www.lakeexpo.com/boating/boa...6154ef8b2.html
09-10-2020 | 07:08 AM
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That looks pretty cool, BUT, if you land slightly to the right, wind, angle of reentry, drive failure, whatever, probably going to torpedo the cruiser dude. Guess what, who's at fault ? You guessed it. Not the cruiser dude, and he probably has a better lawyer, or is one !!
09-10-2020 | 07:21 AM
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I don't car who you are..... There are procedures all Performance Boaters must do: DO NOT DRIVE AFTER DRINKING! I seriously do not care who you are, if you are BWI, You should go to jail forever.... If you want to know why I feel that way, let me know and I will send you the addresses of the parents and the story behind the 6 kids that were killed by a drunk driver. The second is wearing your lanyard while under way. IT IS NOT THAT TOUGH!
A close 3rd is wearing your Lifejacket. Buy a Lifeline and wear it, after the first few times out it becomes second nature and you feel funny without it.
That way, "driving" your boat hard is still risky, that is why we own offshore boats, but at least if something goes wrong, the safety measures will kick in.
A close 3rd is wearing your Lifejacket. Buy a Lifeline and wear it, after the first few times out it becomes second nature and you feel funny without it.
That way, "driving" your boat hard is still risky, that is why we own offshore boats, but at least if something goes wrong, the safety measures will kick in.
09-10-2020 | 07:22 AM
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Wondered that myself, if that was a kid in back. But did not want to go there. Besides if it is a kid and that were me as a kid, I would be grinning from ear to ear and laughing my ass off.
