monopoly money


and BTW funny how resistance/questioning is growing and what was the primary strain is mutating weaker as seen by the # of positives versus the number of seriously ill/deaths
not growing proportionately based on 3 or 6 months ago, far from it...

ENTER: "mutant strain"
gotta keep the fear and anxiety in bloom!

coronaviruses mutate constantly
if you dig into this one you'll find a mutation that is more infectious/less symptomatic, less deadly
virus is desperately looking for hosts but typically loses virility adapting
average idiot doesn't know or hear well, all they hear is more infectious and run for the corner and sheepdom

Never getting the shot just like I have never worn a mask.

I prefer to spend my time and energy living a healthy happy life in multiple ways not just focusing on 1 miniscule small tiny little potential cause of death. Very very small chance. Like so unlikely it's comical.

Sad reading so many on this site are brainwashed, I had higher hopes opening this thread.

Nope not getting it.

here we go!

NY beginning discussion of MANDATORY VACCINATION if "they" determine herd immunity isn't being reached (which is impossible with a non-vaccine.(basically genetic Tamiflu)
with monetary fines and "other" penalties/restrictions if you don't submit!

Fauci today claiming 90% IMMUNIZATION is the only way to attain herd immunity, suddenly up from 70% (which is a long-standing mark in science)
hand-in-hand with the WHO changing their website to say ONLY immunization will attain herd immunity
both have dropped any mention of naturally occurring herd immunity

the thought training and assimilation continues...at a rapid pace!

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Vape exhale with surgical mask

Fauci has changed what he says so many times this year why would anyone care what he says. Yet so many think he spews facts. He never has data to support his opinions, which explains why he changes them regularly.

he's only relevant in that his roller coaster fear-mongering drivel is the fodder to the sheep...
the problem being a solid 51% sheep means...your done!
he's a career bureaucrat
in bed with pharma and Gates
this is why I keep up with what he is saying and where it is from the last thing he said ect
gotta watch em all like that to see movement/trends and where they fit with other "trends" to get a sense of "direction" and potential goals or milestones that can't be reversed

What a bunch of broken hand tools on this thread. I could give a squirt if you get the vaccine or not. What i care about is you or your low iIQ group coming to the hospital and the potential to infect my wife. What a bunch of pansies scared of the needle.

Nice first post,speaking of tools.

Myself, I'm not gonna get it. I'm not afraid of needles either. I donate blood 4 times a year. But, I also will not look down at anybody who wants to get it. Last time I checked, it is still a free country. Although, it seems like the powers that be are trying to change that. Not gonna get into that talk! But for now, I'm still in the, lets agree to disagree crowd.

In an ironic twist and after posting on this thread a few days ago, I tested positive yesterday. Been feeling a bit off, minor sinus infection, but I decided to get tested prior to Christmas eve parties. I don't feel that bad, in fact, I almost went to the gym yesterday before i decided to get tested. Christmas is now shot to hell.

Doesn't change my mind at all about the vaccine. If this were 2019, I'd probably have gone to a party, refused handshakes or hugs and stayed away from folks.

Not a big deal at all..

I am an "essential" worker in a large manufacturing facility where we have had multiple cases both in the facility and my immediate group. The vast majority have minor problems with a couple of notable exceptions-- 2 guys my age spent weeks in the hospital and one other lost both his parents in a 5 day window. I'm in for the shot as soon as it becomes available as I am looking forward to a long and prosperous retirement.

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Fauci VS Faucism

Gates VS Gates of helll

”Just Sayin”

I'm 76 and my health is very good and I'm in the next tier (1b) and will get the two step vaccine, my wife will also when her turn arrives, so will our children and grandkids based on discussion with multiple physicians in our family. There are risks with most vaccines but I weight my decision against a rare but worse case scenario, a visit to ICU and a ventilator. I'll report back if I turn green, have facial palsy, viagra stops working or turn socialist.

The shot
 

First, I am not a liberal, socialist, or a Democrat. I am a lucky survivor of a 4 month hospital stay 6 years ago. I had triple bypass surgery in October 2014. At some point, (probably dropped) , I suffered 4 broken ribs that lead to extreme double pneumonia , coded, revived, and had a trac and put on a ventilator. I was on that ventilator for 6 weeks. In mid December, I got to go home. After 4 days, I was still very weak and went back in the hospital. After a week, my condition had improved and I was on scheduled to leave the hospital again. On Christmas Eve, I coded again and this time, I had MRSA bacterial pneumonia. I had another. trac and put back on a ventilator.. I was in a medically induced coma. After another 6 weeks on the ventilator, I was getting well again but then I came down with c- dif ". All the antibiotics had killed the good bacteria. I finally got out of the hospital in late February and was sent home on oxygen. After 3 months of physical therapy, I was able to get off oxygen. I did suffer permanent heart and lung damage, but I am still alive and can still enjoy boating, hunting, watching sports. I am limited in what I can do, but I still love living and all that goes with it.

My attitude on the vaccine is different than most of the posters on this thread. Today, I can’t see my friends or do much but stay at home, wear my mask, socially distance, use hand sanitizer, or wash my hands. I hate being a hostage to this virus. My only chance to realistically get out and resume my life is to be vaccinated. I have not seen my patents in 3 months because they are in the high 80’s.

I am no fan of government overreach and I am a strong conservative with some libertarian leanings. I hate the nanny state and certainly don’t want to defend the police.

In my case, I want and need the vaccine. I am not ready to die and I certainly don’t want to pass the virus to my family or friends.

I think most people on this thread support choices. I respect our freedom to make those choices which you should be allowed to make depending on your personal situation. My fear is when I'm told I'm allowed to have a choice or opinion just as long as the Government or others agree with it.

Holy crap, are you at cat because you seem to have 9 lives my friend. Wow, just wow sounds like you went thru hell and came back to tell about it .
Take care and Merry Christmas !

I was born in Czechoslovakia and my parents escaped communism when I was 10.
All the things my parents gave up and had to endure to get here LEGALLY was rough and tough on me and my brother including living in Germany as refugees.

These spoiled little Democrat fu ckers who want Bernie or Biden or AOC have no idea what they coul dbe in for .
Been there done that and had to give up everything to escape it .
Government overreach is a slippery slope and Democrats and communist have A LOT in common and it makes me sick.

Amen ^^^^^

Glad you are still with us! You are quarantining to protect yourself and other family members, hats off to you. You are also what I consider whom this vaccine is for and should be getting it. I personally will not be getting the vaccine, I'm in great health, not in any of the categories for underlying conditions or age group that the virus would harm me. Also I believe I had it at the beginning of the year. I am on the fence of calling it a scamdemic, but there is a lot of political massaging to this virus. The suppression of the basic information to help guard against or help when you get this virus is disgusting. Be healthy and take your vitamins! (Vitamin D3 4x daily recommended, C, Zinc, Melatonin, Famotidine). I have a friend that Covid layed him up for 3 weeks and didn't recover for another 3. Two people at my work were in the hospital for a week and we lost an employee due to Covid last week. They all had minor or major underlying conditions.
All stay safe out there!

A$$hole this isn't Liberaljerkoff.com , you on the wrong website.

Merry Christmas .

Go read up on natural selection it is your future.

Man I hope you get to feeling better. I had a customer yesterday tell me he and his wife both had it. She was good after about 7 days. He still was weak after 2 months. He said his breathing was so labored he told his wife one night he didn't think he was going to make it. Prayers for you and your family. Eat those vitamins and stay active. Keep us posted....

Nice introduction Mr 2 post.

Funny how making boat payments make people experts at everything.

"Covid Complications"

Thought of you guys and this thread yesterday. One of my aforementioned friends is a family and Emergency Room doctor. She isnt really for the vaccine for the general population but thinks that everybody that is at risk, due to age or preexisting condition, a doctor, nurse and first responder doesnt have a choice. Fair, understood and accepted. But the part you guys will think is interesting is the way she corrected me. It may not be due to Covid but the correct term they were instructed to use is "Covid Complications" :) At which point Im sure you guys will say the same thing I did. "Ahhh, ok, complications" Uh hummm...

Wow, this thread escalated nicely in 2 days.

Funny me and the wife have these same conversations on the cause of death. I mean if you have a few things and than get COVID, what did you die from? You were living before, but the same could be said if you suddenly got the flu, pneumonia etc. I guess they could list them all, but I really don't think it matters.

If you think this is a world wide scam, you are going to think that, if you are in the camp that it is real and emergency rooms are filling up because of it, you will not change your mind and seek info to back that up.

Its really as simple as that.

As for the shot its like your friend said, right now there is not enough even if you wanted to get it unless you are one of the ones she listed. I'll decide when it gets to me, but at that point there will also be a LOT of people that will have it and may help me with that decision.

Not worried about it at this point.

MY QUESTION.? If its so safe and has no live virus why, why does it need to be stored sub freezing in nitrogen? whats in there that cannot be stored in a regular freezer or in a beer cooler?

Just stumbled across this and thought I’d pass it on. I’m not pushing the read nor voicing my opinion on such. Like the vaccine right or wrong “it’s choice”. At least for now anyway.

http://stateofthenation.co/?p=41277

Reading the other day, this link https://protect-public.hhs.gov/pages...al-utilization shows how many beds ,ICU ,,regular sick people beds ,Plauge patients are in the hospitals across the entire United States.

It seems to have a lag time /update of current numbers of 10 days , it's not like the United States government is the most efficient.

You can doodle around by state as well.


Point being , that hospitals are no where near the "overloaded capacity" that the Lying Media crows day in and day out.

If you listen/watch news you would think there is dead bodies everywhere. That is simply not the case..

Hospitals are in business of having beds full ..That's the business model.






I am more concerned about Rv's full of explosives blowing sh it up... WTF up with that?

I can only see things getting much worse. Majority of what I researched many years ago are coming to light. At rapid speeds it seems.

5.56, .224, 6.5, 7.62 +.....

Not exactly the most reputable or unbiased source IMHO--!

Lets not forget all the money the obama administration borrowed from china. That money has to be paid back one way or another. Isn't there pictures of obama and Fauci at a lab in China back when obama was president? How many trillions will be made off of this vaccine? That being said I am not the most informed or up to date and thats a personal choice. Money is behind this whole pandemic. That being said maybe the vaccine is spot on because they had it all along when they developed the virus. I dont know but nothing surprises me anymore. NO VACCINE for me unless absolutely necessary. The day I quit taking the flu shot was the day I quit getting the flu. That was 15 years ago.

I get that but what is nowadays lol...MSM???

This will likely remain an interesting thread/topic for weeks and months to come. Like the rest of the world right down to family, friends, coworkers, neighbors, etc, etc, etc Don’t let it “divide” the OSO community.

It’s an important topic and fortunate to voice our opinions, experiences and so on regardless. Some sites would have already removed the thread.

I only saw one post that looked like it came from a paid Soros troll. :D

The 2 years in a row I got the flu vaccine is the 2 years I got the worst flu of my life 10 days later.
Never again. haven`t gotten the flu since.

Life is weird .. I haven't had what I know for sure was the flu since 1970 but I've gotten the flu jab every year since 1995 and since then I've had neither the flu or a cold.
But I still think it comes down to being very careful and aware during the 'season' , I'm a bit of a germaphobe anyway :D

My wife went through the same stuff at 13 leaving Poland and staying in Austria. I had the "pleasure" of witnessing all the "commie fun" when i was around 9/10 yrs old when i visited some extended family with my parents in Poland.....no food to be found in stores....no luxuries in any stores. We went to Krakow to sight see and stopped in a restaurant for food...all they had was some potato soup which was nothing more that potato flavored water and tea with no sugar. Gas to fuel cars? If you lucky to be there in line when the delivery truck arrived or "knew someone" with a hook up. What most don't understand about socialism is the powerful still do just fine..the rest get screwed under the guise thats its good for everyone! Look at Cuba....and don't even bother mentioning Michael Moore's video about their healthcare....that was so staged it wasn't even funny...the typical hospital there has nothing to help the people. The ones in his video was probably the only one with anything good in it and they probably only treat the high powered politicians! Having dual citizenship helps me see things most don't get to! I once traveled to Cuba under my Polish passport. Really opens your eyes how it REALY is there....