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Sorry I miss read your post.

Assuming this is a spelling error--but I can get behind the vacation thing!

Had to be a joke.
He got me good though, I read it twice and still missed the vacation lol

Thank you OSO for removing the unwanted trouble making troll. He obviously had no place being on this great site.

Here the way I look at America today.

Ricky Martin is an attractive gay man. -I have no problem with that and support his right to be gay.
Ricky Martin has sex with other men. -I have no problem with that either and think he has every right to be as miserable as husband and wife couples.
Ricky Martin and his partner have domestic partnership benefits as a couple. -I have no problem with that and support that too.
Society wants me to not only support Ricky and his way of life but they want me to suck his d*ck too. -I have a big problem with that.

Why isnt it enough to support a cause? Why are people considered racist or bigots if they only support people but dont partake in their "way of life"?

Whatever happened to freedom and being left alone to live my life the way I chose? Why do I have to not only support but comply or contribute to other peoples ways of life even if Ive never knew them or even give two craps about what they do?

This applies to everything in this thread, I have no problem wearing a mask, I dont care, but to force a vaccine on someone is really pushing my limits. I understand that some people in society may be weak or have health problems. To that, I understand and I will do my best to stay away, but why is this my responsibility and not theirs? Why arent they wearing breathing apparatus, why arent they taking experimental drugs?

Haha, not a spelling error. I figured a good brain teaser and laugh would help with this discussion. But on topic of this discussion, not getting the shot but taking normal hygiene precautions and dealing with the face coverings.

Been there done that - Took the first shot on the 26th have to take the second on the 25th of Jan - No big deal no side effects - Being a lifelong asthmatic, glad to take it

Unless by the time I'm eligible to receive the vaccine it has proven to be ineffective or dangerous then of course I will be taking it as soon as it is available to me.

It's the responsible thing to do for the health and safety of myself, my family, and my fellow Americans.

Besides, I already paid for the damn shots!

Considering the Covid was very likely years in the brewing it does make a little sense how quickly the vaccine was released. If that is not the case I would be very reluctant at ANY age to get the vaccine this early on. If one is that concerned (yes I get why in some cases) I’d seriously try and hunker down for 2 to 3 more months and see how this pans out with the early on vaccinated.

The medical experts I’ve talked with agreed. “To early”. But in all reality who the fk knows.

One thing I do know is I will not be getting it. If things keep going how they at least appear to be how many series of vaccines will needed.

How might that itself affect the elderly and or weak immune individuals. Perhaps nothing at all. Just sayin.

NWO

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I have pretty bad asthma so I’m in the group 1 c category (I think), but I’m not planning on getting the vaccine. I’m interested in the new at-home tests that are due in January. I’m pretty sure I already had this thing... my ex-wife and her husband had it and I’m pretty sure my kids had it. I’ve been on and off sick since October (tested negative).If I have had it... I’d say just a bad cold in terms of severity. I know some have had it much worse. Again, I can’t say for sure, but exposure was within my home.


The current situation... this all stinks something bad...

- Money to be made.
- Forced compliance (vaccine passports?)
- Total disregard to science (asymptomatic spread now being exposed as false and natural occurring immunity removed from literature).
- Vaccine linked to infertility (population control?)

I don’t jump on conspiracy theories and the like, but this is all playing right into what those who are labeled conspiracy theorists have been taking about since this all started.

The question... what do we (or can we) do about it? Seems no one is even listening.

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I just got excited cause I found a place that is so rebel they have indoor dining... how pathetic.
so sick of this $hit

There are several small towns downstate around me that have never shut down or ceased to allow indoor dining. Here in the larger downstate towns you get ratted out and fined if you have people eating indoors. But hey come on in if you have poker machines!

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/w...l-transmission







Pfizer admitted as much in their package for FDA EUA. The vaccine does not prevent people from contracting, nor transmitting SARS-CoV-2. That was not even part of the trial program. They only tested to see if the vaccine prevented the development of severe symptoms. That is what the "95% effective" rate is a measure of. This is just a very expensive Theraflu, plus a side of mRNA to make you a GMO person. And since 99.97% of people who contract SARS-CoV-2 recover, the vaccine is not any better than your natural immune system at preventing severe symptoms.

Consider only 0.06% of the total population is at risk of dying WITH COVID-19 and you truly have to be daft to think you need this vaccine.


What is mRNA -
mRNA = messanger RNA.

In your cells when they need to make proteins (anything from new cell parts, hemoglobin for new red blood cells, new skin cells, hair, digestive enzymes, more enzymes to break down alcohol in your liver, new liver cells to replace the ones you killed with alcohol, etc, etc) your body basically has special proteins that read your DNA material. The DNA code is copied into special RNA code called mRNA. (messangerRNA that sends a message on how to build what your body needs to a specialized part of your cell that can actually make such things - called ribosomes). That part of your cell reads the mRNA like the blue print for a building and starts construction. It pumps out whatever the mRNA tells it and as much of it as it is told.

When infected by a virus, your cell gets confused. It confuses the virus genetic code with its on. Not all viruses contain DNA but some do (other contain RNA). But, let's say a virus containing DNA to keep this simple. Your cell thinks the virus DNA is its own. So, it makes mRNA from it and sends it to your cell's factory to start building whatever that mRNA says. Of course, what the virus mRNA says is to build more virus parts (to make more virus to infect more cells).

So, what this mRNA vaccine consists of is (in part) mRNA from Covid that will cause your cells to make parts of the Covid-19 virus. The idea is these Covid-19 pieces (which are thought to be pieces of Covid-19 that can't cause disease in humans) eventually either present on the surface of your cells or leak into your blood stream. Your immune system then sees these Covid-19 pieces, recognizes them as foreign, and creates specialized anti-bodies that can neutralize them. Your body produces tons of these anti-bodies and releases them into your body (blood, lungs, etc). The idea is that when you do get infected with Covid-19 instead of not knowing what it is right away and just starting to make anti-bodies while it makes you sick and replicates, your body will recognize it immediately and neutralize it with the anti-bodies the mRNA vaccine made it create before it can replicate enough to infect enough of your cells to make you really sick.

Of course, this is kinda dangerous because you are basically hijacking your own cells and stimulating your immune system to attack and fight something (which could result either in an immune inflammation response that will make you ill, or could result in a life long of permanent auto-immune disease (which is where like your own immune system mistakes your normal un-infected brain/nerve cells for covid-19 infected cells and kills them all)). This risk is why I personally will not take vaccines (especially the Flu vaccine (which has a history of causing this type of problem)).





I cut these explanations from the comment section.

I would not put a lot of stock into what the China controlled WHO says.

Absolutely not .

I thought the explanation about mRNA from a poster on there was written so it can be understood in plain English.

Scary s hit if you ask me .....I’ll stick to my raw yellow onions and vitamins.

Don’t forget garlic and THC!!! 😂

Ill just stick to licking door knobs. Its worked so far...

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I just got a phone call this morning from my sister downstate. Go figure... Yes it was the call saying so sorry she just tested positive for the junk. Yup, Xmas morning she had the sniffles and she didn’t think much of it. Next few days had more cold like symptoms which ultimately lead to not being able to smell or taste as of last night. She went and got tested this morning. The 20 minute test came back positive however she also got the more extensive test that takes 5 to 7 days. Our family hesitated briefly as to whether we should get together this year however we did. I have no regrets but the rest of us are laying low until further test results. She works part time at dentist office and has taken precaution since this all stated and nearly quite her job as she has a weakened immune system.

Strange thing is that her weakened immune system was the result of a stroke which coincidentally happened 3 days after she got her flu shot a few years ago.

Yes I will take it as soon as I am able. Not because I worry about myself contracting or being adversely affected by the virus but because I don’t want to unwittingly transmit a death sentence to anyone that has a vulnerability. I also want life to return to normal and I hope that this will make that possible sooner. If I grow a third eye I will let y’all know. Peace to everyone in the new year, Roscoe

You getting the vaccine won't address any of your concerns. You can still contract it and transmit it, you just won't get sick. In fact, you may actually be more likely to transmit it as you think you are safe when you are not.

Not trying to down play your situation in any way but I wouldn't worry about it as far as contracting it from her. I cant even count how many people have gotten it and had been in super close proximity to family and friends and no one in their circle got it. Unless you have symptoms I wouldn't give 2 ****s about it. Im sorry for your sister but my Dr friend says do not lay down and walk or jog every 2 to 3 hours. Fresh air and vitamins are the key. Eat as healthy as you can. Keep us posted on her progress and hopefully not regress. Thoughts and prayers for you and your family.

Thank you.
no matter how many times this gets clarified, you can tell by context people aren't getting it and therefore are making all sort of decisions on false pretense

Nope, had it, u wanna take it go ahead, you shouldn't be shamed. My choice, my body, my 223 with an Eotech.

Tks and I feel the same. I’m in the resort business in northern MI and been around and in direct contact with hundreds of people a day seven days a week from May through September. What are the odds of not coming in contact with more than a handful that had and didn’t know it or tested positive shortly there after after. I know there was three for certain. One was 78 yrs old and the other two where in their 50’s. They all came through it fine but where fairly healthy individuals.

Slight update. My nephew, his wife and daughter just tested positive. That’s 4 out of 14 from our immediate family gathering to date anyway. I hated to even post but....

Ones gotta wonder if you get tested after saying you were exposed or just cold like symptoms the test mysteriously shows up positive now?

I wouldn't believe the tests, know a guy that registered & then waited for a test for 2 hours and decided Puck it and drove away , 6 days Later he got a call that his test was Positive LOL as he explained he never got tested

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Im curious. Did they have symptoms or did they get tested because of exposure? I have a Dr friend who has sent several blank tests that have come back positive. That being said a newly elected Louisiana state senator just passed away from complications from Covid. Rumor he got a blood clot in his lungs and when they went to remove it the clot caused either a stroke or heart attack. I’ve been crazy busy and havnt had time to get all the facts on this. I don’t won’t to post misinformation.

lotsa problems with testing
PCR inventor says not for viruses
reactant too sensitive false positives to fragments (not whole live virus) and straight up false positives up to 40%
means nothing
being used to control movement/admission/access and frighten into submission

Tell me again how testing negative is meaningful?
you can be negative and get exposed to whole live virus 2 minutes later on your way to grannies, or to fly, or to go to an event, whatever...
if fact if you were successfully exposed so to speak, it can be several days before you genuinely test positive from that exposure
so again, what is the reason for massively flawed mass testing? How is it in reality affecting the course of community health positively?
it isn't, and it can't
Other than training you to accept and perform...in a variety of ways

the term in my orbit is Covid anxiety, and trust me watching it doesn't do anything to give you any more faith in the population, or hope for the future!

oh yeah...additional positives right outta thin air, people not even tested ect
I just got hint of a Mn. story of pulling 2800 random deaths in the period tallied as covid deaths, and amazingly enough "Covid" appeared nowhere in 800+ of those medical records or death certs.
That's the State/Fed DOH and CDC/pharma screwing you and not only not buying you dinner, but taking you're food away!
BALLSY

another issue is asymptomatic spread...NOPE
you're only "shedding" when symptomatic!
why do you think essential workers (pick and choose there) never miss a working hour tested positive?
If 80% of a hospital staff was genuinely positive for whole live virus but not sick/symptomatic and they are working everyday which is perfectly acceptable...
"go to work and go home" is our "quarantine"
except that going to work is having contact, in fact closer contact with more people in a day than I typically would in a month!

digest that for a moment...

the powers/players in this including Fauxi have known all along, but the early mention of asymptomatic spread as a question got a home run response they weren't going to pass up!
just look at how people responded to that notion and have behaved...
HOME RUN!

maybe the pharma angle? Purposefully dragged this out so pharma could get to the scene with something, which is in fact very close to nothing, and get it pre-sold emotionally and of course monetarily in the longer game which will now be about more "shots" forever
don't worry if you are afraid of needles, they'll have something oral soon enough!
outrageously genius business plan. of course they've been practicing selling you/anyone anything/everything you don't need for a loooong time now!
you saw what happened when government (ie: the people) tried to take them on over the opioid hell they created right?
energy sector got nothing on pharma when it comes to money in play and who's bought, at what level, and not just here, worldwide.

I have a rumor circulating through the local housewives (Surely started by Facebook) that you can get it from drinking Coca Cola. Im not making this up...

This is precisely why the Covid hysteria has become a chitshow...

I was reading comments about the disadvantaged youts attacking a BMW in NY.


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There was another link /comment about a State Trooper following and harassing a man at his home for not wearing a mask in PA

If you sort comments "best" first it's the second comment.

State Trooper followed him home, and tells him" it's the law" to have to wear a mask....


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I really am a law enforcement supporter, but.... if I encounter some +bulls hit + like that video.............

I had a wide angle pic from tonight with our local country bar packed, but decided to just post this as the other had the name of the bar, and I don't want them closed. We tip them well and thank them every time we go for staying open in Pritzker Prison!:drink: I talked to the owner tonight and she is doing ok, maybe well. She couldn't close again this time around, if she did it was close for good. Just a small example of dumbass rules that are ruining some peoples lives.

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How strange I’ve heard of that a couple times from people I know here in a small town. That’s messed up.

Yes I would agree with all mentioned. I hate all this chit. It’s the ONLY thing you hear about these days. Truly an agenda what ever it is. Next will be 👽 invasion. Lol. Perfect I’m ready for change. Pack a bowl and look 👀 up.

Back to who was curious of if my relation had symptoms. I’ll do a copy paste below from my nephew. My sister was similar but couldn’t taste and smell. These symptoms are definitely on track with common cold often gotten this time of year. Remember those days when we just got bad colds and your mom was making your favorite dinner and you couldn’t taste. Oh that sucked. My nephew and his wife both are cops in a college town. Both very cool. I started him out right buying grand theft auto when he was 6 yrs old. 😂

Hey Unc, yea it sucks ass but not much we can do about it.

It started as a tickle cough. Like allergies. Then went to head fog, sore throat, cough, and sinus congestion. None of us have fevers. And we all still HAVE taste and smell

My fiancé and I are both fine as my folks are as well. I party like a rock star and unfortunately do smoke about 1 1/2 packs a day. Usually eat just once a day. Not going to jinks myself but haven’t been .... in SEVERAL years. Not even a cold.

Not saying this chit isn’t real at all but just to many lies and mis info and fed up with it. We all are. It’s BS no matter how you look at it.

The one thing that gets my attention is when I hear or read about a perfectly healthy young person dies of Covid???

Realistically everyone will have their own opinion and being as every human is different, it will affect each one different. The reality is its a flu virus, no different than any other flu in history with (in my opinion) the exception of how it was delivered. the only difference between this one and 2 years ago with people dying is you didnt have the news drilling it into you 24/7.. people always have gotten and many have died from flu's. If anything to me it has shown that it targets unhealthy Americans seemingly the most. do your best to stay healthy, use common sense and live your life. you arent getting out alive anyhow and there is no predetermined method of your passing. No one cared about h1n1, because the data was being manipulated for a purpose. Happy New year!