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#592
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I agree with Marginmn...I know of a few people that literally voted against Trump that were historically Republican. One guy is a 63 year old very wealthy business owner that has voted Rep since he was 18 but can't stand how crazy Trump is and voted Biden. I like what Trump did but I think the best is to move on from him.
#593
With all due respect you are way overthinking this. People were not voting for Democratic policy in 2020 - nor will they in 2024 if Trump is on the ticket. DNC policy is a bucket of c hit. People were specifically voting against Donald Trump because they don't like him. Policy notwithstanding, DJT comes across to many voters as a petty, narcissistic, douche-bag. His image is sealed because the guy cannot change to save his life.
As for the election, Bill Barr, Trump's very own AG said he found no evidence of widespread fraud. Not that there wasn't any fraud, just nothing that could be proven to overturn an election.. From a legal stand point, that's as good as no fraud. Election over, lawsuits played out, move on and transfer power or we are a Banana Republic. . But just last month one of Trump's most staunch supporters had a falling out with Trump. Rep Mo Brooks of Alabama says Trump is still conspiring to overturn the 2020 election. Which is against Federal law BTW. How effing nutty is that? He's still conspiring to overturn it and have Biden thrown out.
Barr also said that while DJT did some great things for the country, Trump has neither the strength of character nor the temperament to be POTUS. Barr encourages his Republican party to move the hell on from DJT. At what point do his supporters come to the realization that not everyone in the Republican party who Trump picked to work for him and left is part of some giant cabal?
Youngkin won a shocking Republican Governor victory in a Blue state (VA) by purposely distancing himself from Donald Trump. Being tied to DJT = Bad. No Mention Donald Trump = Win. Don't overthink this.
As for the election, Bill Barr, Trump's very own AG said he found no evidence of widespread fraud. Not that there wasn't any fraud, just nothing that could be proven to overturn an election.. From a legal stand point, that's as good as no fraud. Election over, lawsuits played out, move on and transfer power or we are a Banana Republic. . But just last month one of Trump's most staunch supporters had a falling out with Trump. Rep Mo Brooks of Alabama says Trump is still conspiring to overturn the 2020 election. Which is against Federal law BTW. How effing nutty is that? He's still conspiring to overturn it and have Biden thrown out.
Barr also said that while DJT did some great things for the country, Trump has neither the strength of character nor the temperament to be POTUS. Barr encourages his Republican party to move the hell on from DJT. At what point do his supporters come to the realization that not everyone in the Republican party who Trump picked to work for him and left is part of some giant cabal?
Youngkin won a shocking Republican Governor victory in a Blue state (VA) by purposely distancing himself from Donald Trump. Being tied to DJT = Bad. No Mention Donald Trump = Win. Don't overthink this.
#594
"Establishment" Republicans......Democrats(Communists) Proven to be two heads of the same snake and the reason no matter which party was in power the direction the Country never changed course. Enter Donald J. Trump! Promises made promises kept and always America First..........never experienced that in my 66 years from any... never did nothin'.... politician. To a few of you in here, PLEASE TURN OFF THE TELEVISION, you're being lied to 24/7 365.


#595
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a petty narcissitic douchbag that has been right about everything since he ran for office... as for barr, its now coming out that he was being threatened by the dnc and going to be dragged into court and bankrupted the same way they did w flynn, so he caved.. the rest of the stuff we can agree to disagree on.
Who are you voting for? Trump or Desantis?
Also, contrary to your post, Trump wasn't right about everything. His plot to have Mike Pence and members of Congress overturn the 2020 election: Sure as hell he wasn't right about that, was he?
Last edited by Marginmn; 04-07-2022 at 04:18 PM.
#596
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From: SW Ohio
Ok, so let's say the Spring of 2024 rolls around and the primaries are upon us. Democratic policy has left the country in shambles. Desantis and Trump and neck and neck to the win the Republican primary. However, polls say that Desantis has a 90% chance of defeating any Democratic challenger they put up, while Trump only has a 40% chance.
Who are you voting for? Trump or Desantis?
Who are you voting for? Trump or Desantis?
#597
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From: SW Ohio
With all due respect you are way overthinking this. People were not voting for Democratic policy in 2020 - nor will they in 2024 if Trump is on the ticket. DNC policy is a bucket of c hit. People were specifically voting against Donald Trump because they don't like him. Policy notwithstanding, DJT comes across to many voters as a petty, narcissistic, douche-bag. His image is sealed because the guy cannot change to save his life.
As for the election, Bill Barr, Trump's very own AG said he found no evidence of widespread fraud. Not that there wasn't any fraud, just nothing that could be proven to overturn an election.. From a legal stand point, that's as good as no fraud. Election over, lawsuits played out, move on and transfer power or we are a Banana Republic. . But just last month one of Trump's most staunch supporters had a falling out with Trump. Rep Mo Brooks of Alabama says Trump is still conspiring to overturn the 2020 election. Which is against Federal law BTW. How effing nutty is that? He's still conspiring to overturn it and have Biden thrown out.
Barr also said that while DJT did some great things for the country, Trump has neither the strength of character nor the temperament to be POTUS. Barr encourages his Republican party to move the hell on from DJT. At what point do his supporters come to the realization that not everyone in the Republican party who Trump picked to work for him and left is part of some giant cabal?
Youngkin won a shocking Republican Governor victory in a Blue state (VA) by purposely distancing himself from Donald Trump. Being tied to DJT = Bad. No Mention Donald Trump = Win. Don't overthink this.
As for the election, Bill Barr, Trump's very own AG said he found no evidence of widespread fraud. Not that there wasn't any fraud, just nothing that could be proven to overturn an election.. From a legal stand point, that's as good as no fraud. Election over, lawsuits played out, move on and transfer power or we are a Banana Republic. . But just last month one of Trump's most staunch supporters had a falling out with Trump. Rep Mo Brooks of Alabama says Trump is still conspiring to overturn the 2020 election. Which is against Federal law BTW. How effing nutty is that? He's still conspiring to overturn it and have Biden thrown out.
Barr also said that while DJT did some great things for the country, Trump has neither the strength of character nor the temperament to be POTUS. Barr encourages his Republican party to move the hell on from DJT. At what point do his supporters come to the realization that not everyone in the Republican party who Trump picked to work for him and left is part of some giant cabal?
Youngkin won a shocking Republican Governor victory in a Blue state (VA) by purposely distancing himself from Donald Trump. Being tied to DJT = Bad. No Mention Donald Trump = Win. Don't overthink this.
I will also ask, since when is wanting the vote count to be valid "trying to have the election over turned"? We saw four straight years of the exact same thing Trump and his loyals doing now while he was in office.
I thought I was getting out of this thread....

Thanks. Brad.
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Last edited by Brad Christy; 04-07-2022 at 04:41 PM.
#598
Not sure of what to add really…. Virginia here (VB). South of Richmond and out west is red with exception of some areas of Hampton Roads. Virginia Beach definitely red.
Norther Virginia screws us. There is so much population centered there and most are in the seat of power or related to it in Washington.
Huge sigh of relief when Youngkin won it. And the media, Jesus H Christ, they’re were really pushing the idea that there was no way for Youngkin to win. And “oh look, more votes have been found in Fairfax County” right at the last minute. Suspect for sure. But. It enough to turn the tide back to blue (thank the lord).
Republicans should run their own media special - one about why “our very lives depend on depend on removing the far left.” (re Michelle Obama’s speech from last fall… have never ever seen anything like that in my 40 years or awareness).
Norther Virginia screws us. There is so much population centered there and most are in the seat of power or related to it in Washington.
Huge sigh of relief when Youngkin won it. And the media, Jesus H Christ, they’re were really pushing the idea that there was no way for Youngkin to win. And “oh look, more votes have been found in Fairfax County” right at the last minute. Suspect for sure. But. It enough to turn the tide back to blue (thank the lord).
Republicans should run their own media special - one about why “our very lives depend on depend on removing the far left.” (re Michelle Obama’s speech from last fall… have never ever seen anything like that in my 40 years or awareness).
#599
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From: park hill OK
Widespread, LOL. thats like like say as long as you only steal small stuff , you are not a thief. The only reason Trump won in 2016, was because no one thought he could win, and he was the only candidate that would lose to Killary, They were so sure she would win in a landslide that they didn't even bother to cheat. They wont ever make that mistake again. Dont write Trump off in 2024, nobody thought he had a chance in 2016 and look what happened. They even admitted not long ago(much like a Russian dictator) that what matters is who counts the votes. The electoral college is double edged sword, the bad side is that cheating is easier. Get control of counting votes in a few swing states and voter fraud does not have to be widespread. I guess the challenge is to win by such a huge majority that they cant cheat enough to overturn it. Before google buried the stats, there were 115million registered voters, and 155million votes cast. That is a lot to overcome. I seriously have my doubts that a Republican will ever occupy the whitehouse again. I also believe that these midterms will see an incredible amount of voter fraud. If the dems hold the house, I think it is fair to say that we have lost this country, and maybe it is time for an actual insurrection.
#600
Ok, so let's say the Spring of 2024 rolls around and the primaries are upon us. Democratic policy has left the country in shambles. Desantis and Trump and neck are neck to the win the Republican primary. However, polls say that Desantis has a 90% chance of defeating any Democratic challenger they put up, while Trump only has a 40% chance.
Who are you voting for? Trump or Desantis?
Also, contrary to your post, Trump wasn't right about everything. His plot to have Mike Pence and members of Congress overturn the 2020 election: Sure as hell he wasn't right about that, was he?
Who are you voting for? Trump or Desantis?
Also, contrary to your post, Trump wasn't right about everything. His plot to have Mike Pence and members of Congress overturn the 2020 election: Sure as hell he wasn't right about that, was he?
Last edited by offshoredrillin; 04-07-2022 at 07:32 PM.





