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Old 04-11-2022 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Brad Christy
I'll say it again.... I don't care about Trump. I liked him. I still like him. That's not the point. My concern is that capitulating to the Left's garbage narrative is only going to give them bravado to do to our decided candidate what they did to Trump. You're carrying water for the Jan6th myth. You're carrying water about the recount (counting the same fraudulent votes isn't correcting the problem. Shredding them does).

We've already seen them doing this same thing to DiSantis. We've seen them doing it to literally anybody who attempts to counter their lies. They are going to keep doing it as long as people like you keep telling them it works. Stop it.

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Pointing out why DeSantis and other Republicans have a much better shot of winning in 2024 than Trump is not carrying water for the LEFT. It's trying to prevent a train wreck . Democrats control the WH and Congress because their party leaders correctly assessed that Leftist favorite Bernie Sanders was unelectable in a general election.. So they went with a half-brain-dead Biden and now the Left controls all of Washington. Democrats who pointed out why Progressive favorite Bernie Sanders had too much baggage to win in a general were not carrying water for the Right. They were admitting reality.

The Left's policies are going up in flames. Running against Trump is literally all the Left has to scare their base into turning out to vote in 2022 and 2024. Your "Capitulating to the Left" theory is stupid on its face. The Left would love to run against Trump. The Left are praying that they get to run against Trump. Running against Trump is literally their only hope for keeping power. Not giving the LEFT the Candidate they pray to run against is not carrying water for the Left. It is helping to defeat them.

Jan 6th is a Myth? Please elaborate?







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Old 04-11-2022 | 11:02 AM
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You know all this left or right stuff,,,,,, There is a lot in the middle. I think both have forgotten that.

Look at florida,

https://www.wuft.org/news/2020/02/10...lorida-voters/



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Old 04-11-2022 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Marginmn
Pointing out why DeSantis and other Republicans have a much better shot of winning in 2024 than Trump is not carrying water for the LEFT. It's trying to prevent a train wreck . Democrats control the WH and Congress because their party leaders correctly assessed that Leftist favorite Bernie Sanders was unelectable in a general election.. So they went with a half-brain-dead Biden and now the Left controls all of Washington. Democrats who pointed out why Progressive favorite Bernie Sanders had too much baggage to win in a general were not carrying water for the Right. They were admitting reality.

The Left's policies are going up in flames. Running against Trump is literally all the Left has to scare their base into turning out to vote in 2022 and 2024. Your "Capitulating to the Left" theory is stupid on its face. The Left would love to run against Trump. The Left are praying that they get to run against Trump. Running against Trump is literally their only hope for keeping power. Not giving the LEFT the Candidate they pray to run against is not carrying water for the Left. It is helping to defeat them.

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Conceding that their lies are the truth is capitulating. Full stop.

Propagating the LIE that there was an attempted insurrection on Jan6th, when there wasn't, is absolutely carrying their water.

Suggesting that what DID happen on Jan6th was, in any way, due to some incitement by Trump, when he didn't, absolutely IS carrying their water.

These kinds of things are doing nothing but encouraging them to fabricate more falsehoods that will carry that much more weight against whatever candidate Republicans nominate. Republicans need to stop playing defense all the time, and people who claim to have voted conservative in the past helping to perpetuate these heaping piles of cow excrement is absolutely forcing our defense back out on the field.

I'll be right beside you, voting for DiSantis, should he get the nod. But you HAVE to stop validating the lies the Left used to stifle the agenda we all voted for, which began before Trump was even the nominee, or they will simply do it again and again, no matter WHO we nominate. If you think they're simply going to start playing nice just because Trump isn't on the ticket, you're deluding yourself. If you think they are going to start playing nice just because you've agreed to their lies, you're deluding yourself. They'll throw you in the oubliette with all the rest of us racist, misogynist, homophobic, nationalist, xenophobic deplorables, the second they get what they want from you. Remember when McCain was all those things? Until he voted AGAINST what we'd all voted FOR...? The Left LOVES RINOs.

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Old 04-11-2022 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix
You know all this left or right stuff,,,,,, There is a lot in the middle. I think both have forgotten that.

Look at florida,

https://www.wuft.org/news/2020/02/10...lorida-voters/
Agreed. Trump won because he nabbed a huge swath right out of the middle. And, suddenly, anything to the Right of Stalin is "Far Right".

That's been my point this entire time. How long does the middle-Right keep giving inches before we realize we've been drug us all the way to the Left-most fringe, and we're STILL called AltRight...?

The far Left turned a former DEMOCRAT (who they LOVED)....
into an AltRight monster because "we" let them, not because he WAS. As I've pointed out... Winsome Sears, according the Left and their pet MSM, won her election because of RACISM.....(?) And this is because we LET them turn US into the racists they needed us to be.

This crap HAS to STOP.

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Old 04-11-2022 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix
You know all this left or right stuff,,,,,, There is a lot in the middle. I think both have forgotten that.

Look at florida,

https://www.wuft.org/news/2020/02/10...lorida-voters/
Yea it's not about Left or Right. It's about Far Left and Far Right. The Far Left loves Bernie Sanders and wanted him to be President in 2020. The Far Right still loved Trump and wanted him again in 2020. But compared to 2016 Trump lost too many votes from people in the middle. The people in the middle can't stand either Trump or Sander and that's why Biden is our President. Which ever party's candidate appeals to the middle will likely win again in 2024. Not saying Trump cannot win, but it's obvious that many other Republicans would have a better chance than Trump.
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Old 04-11-2022 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Marginmn
but it's obvious that many other Republicans would have a better chance than Trump.
You made me lol. Thanks. “Many. “ Lolololol
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Old 04-11-2022 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Marginmn
Yea it's not about Left or Right. It's about Far Left and Far Right. The Far Left loves Bernie Sanders and wanted him to be President in 2020. The Far Right still loved Trump and wanted him again in 2020. But compared to 2016 Trump lost too many votes from people in the middle. The people in the middle can't stand either Trump or Sander and that's why Biden is our President. Which ever party's candidate appeals to the middle will likely win again in 2024. Not saying Trump cannot win, but it's obvious that many other Republicans would have a better chance than Trump.
I agree, just seems the fringes are getting to much air time, but it sells ads.

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Old 04-11-2022 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Marginmn
Yea it's not about Left or Right. It's about Far Left and Far Right. The Far Left loves Bernie Sanders and wanted him to be President in 2020. The Far Right still loved Trump and wanted him again in 2020. But compared to 2016 Trump lost too many votes from people in the middle. The people in the middle can't stand either Trump or Sander and that's why Biden is our President. Which ever party's candidate appeals to the middle will likely win again in 2024. Not saying Trump cannot win, but it's obvious that many other Republicans would have a better chance than Trump.


We know who the far left is, they make a lot headlines and we see them in congress but who is the far right and what are they espousing?
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Old 04-11-2022 | 01:03 PM
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Not saying Trump cannot win, but it's obvious that many other Republicans would have a better chance than Trump.


A “moderate” republican should be an easy win given Biden’s mess but what good would he do? My guess is he’d be about as useless as every other repub president or candidate between RR and DJT.
No meaningful pushback and the steady March to the left would continue albeit slower for awhile.
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Old 04-11-2022 | 01:07 PM
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Trump and DeSantis is all there is IMO and I hope they both succeed.
I hate to see them work against each other in the primary.
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