Dyno correction factor in Colorado
#151
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From: frankenmuth michigan
I go to work for 12 hours and this is what I miss??
C-Straub: I talked to you on the phone years ago and you seemed like a real nice, smart guy. Then I seen what happened with several cams and some engines you helped spec stuff for, wasn't pretty. I guess what bothered me is never ever did I hear-geez I made a mistake and lets move forward to correct it even if it cost money out of your own pocket. Thats what everyone else that values their reputation does.
Scott/CFM/SB- You ARE a smart guy and a friend, keep on doggin Straub (you have 1st hand knowledge of these fiasco's, I only know what I have been told and read) and I'll keep on that Fukkin Roccard!!!!
, Smitty
C-Straub: I talked to you on the phone years ago and you seemed like a real nice, smart guy. Then I seen what happened with several cams and some engines you helped spec stuff for, wasn't pretty. I guess what bothered me is never ever did I hear-geez I made a mistake and lets move forward to correct it even if it cost money out of your own pocket. Thats what everyone else that values their reputation does.
Scott/CFM/SB- You ARE a smart guy and a friend, keep on doggin Straub (you have 1st hand knowledge of these fiasco's, I only know what I have been told and read) and I'll keep on that Fukkin Roccard!!!!
, Smitty
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again if you have never built a marine performance engine or own an offshore boat and understand what an engine needs to do to make it run.... you have no business picking parts and taking hard working customers money,,,,and if you make a mistake(which you have made more than most combined) fix it out of your pocket and be a responsible person,,,,thats how you build a reputable business,,,,
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Kinda weird you showed up to this thread to knock a guy (a customer of yours) back down that you already knocked down.
Same MO.
I helped your offshore customers for a few years trying to help fix there problems which you blamed on them and/or their engine builders which you helped some pick by the way.
How much money did you charge a certain someone to make their hopped up ZZ502's make the same power as stock ZZ502's.
You just keep coming back for more.
Same MO.
I helped your offshore customers for a few years trying to help fix there problems which you blamed on them and/or their engine builders which you helped some pick by the way.
How much money did you charge a certain someone to make their hopped up ZZ502's make the same power as stock ZZ502's.
You just keep coming back for more.
Hey, you still selling those XX lifters out the back door, Chirs? LOL
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From: brewster ma
That "certain person" with the ZZ502's, after getting screwed by cstraub, had too much class and was too much of a gentleman to make public just what a schidt deal he got from cstraub. And yet, cstraub has the ballz to come on OSO and throw it in his face. What a POS......
Hey, you still selling those XX lifters out the back door, Chirs? LOL
Hey, you still selling those XX lifters out the back door, Chirs? LOL
those xx lifters wouldn't be the same "marine specials(5 sets)" that he fcked Billy's shop on.
I see cslob wasn't to busy with Bristol,as he was posting at 8am on conformance.
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I'm shocked to see this from Chris. I may be in battles with Chris with some cam selections but I know at times his selections are close to mine.
A racer on Team Chevelle, he ordered some piston, rings, and some other stuff. The cam I spec'd, after a simple PM, was 262/270 @.050" with the lift needed on a 107° lobe center. I ended up having some issues with a death in the family, and was not available to stay on top of the issue with the camshaft so he got one from Chris. He sent him a 263/271 @.050" on a 108° lobe center and I know this because the poster was a little shocked at how close the spec's were of the 2 cams
Now with the dyno challenge thread, Chris and I are hitting heads. Three people made a suggestion on a camshaft, Me, Chris and another fellow. Chris stated the one would hit a wall, so it ended up with everyone saying their cam will not hit a wall and willing to back it up
The issue is this, I suggested a 290/306 @.020" 106° cam, another guy suggested his, and Chris suggested his, but when we challenge/dyno/track ET's with a camshaft from each person, here is what they will be,,,
Me, the cam I suggested
1997bird, the cam he suggested
Chris, Chris will send a camshaft similar in spec's to the one he posted.
Well the problem is, if you suggested a camshaft to the original poster, and then it turns into a testing application Chris is not going to supply the cam he suggested in the thread, It will be one similar
Well IMO, the similar camshaft is not what started the debate, it was his suggestion and myself and everyone else involved would be sending the cam grind we suggested, and we feel that is the only was to be fair
That is on top of the fact that we posted duration @.020" & .050" & .200" along with suggested lash calculated for those lobes and his valve train, and Chris will not disclose that information, but we did before the thought of the challenge
I think Chris is a descent guy, It seems you guys already have an opinion formed so I will respect that and just add my $.02
By the way, I am not a customer of Chris's
A racer on Team Chevelle, he ordered some piston, rings, and some other stuff. The cam I spec'd, after a simple PM, was 262/270 @.050" with the lift needed on a 107° lobe center. I ended up having some issues with a death in the family, and was not available to stay on top of the issue with the camshaft so he got one from Chris. He sent him a 263/271 @.050" on a 108° lobe center and I know this because the poster was a little shocked at how close the spec's were of the 2 cams
Now with the dyno challenge thread, Chris and I are hitting heads. Three people made a suggestion on a camshaft, Me, Chris and another fellow. Chris stated the one would hit a wall, so it ended up with everyone saying their cam will not hit a wall and willing to back it up
The issue is this, I suggested a 290/306 @.020" 106° cam, another guy suggested his, and Chris suggested his, but when we challenge/dyno/track ET's with a camshaft from each person, here is what they will be,,,
Me, the cam I suggested
1997bird, the cam he suggested
Chris, Chris will send a camshaft similar in spec's to the one he posted.
Well the problem is, if you suggested a camshaft to the original poster, and then it turns into a testing application Chris is not going to supply the cam he suggested in the thread, It will be one similar
Well IMO, the similar camshaft is not what started the debate, it was his suggestion and myself and everyone else involved would be sending the cam grind we suggested, and we feel that is the only was to be fair
That is on top of the fact that we posted duration @.020" & .050" & .200" along with suggested lash calculated for those lobes and his valve train, and Chris will not disclose that information, but we did before the thought of the challenge
I think Chris is a descent guy, It seems you guys already have an opinion formed so I will respect that and just add my $.02
By the way, I am not a customer of Chris's
#156
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cslob is such a professional that he told John Canfield lies about Billy(sut30).Of course,cslob didn't know John was a close friend to one of the shops friends,oops.Can't beat Billy,just tell lies about him.The no boat owner one is still a classic.
those xx lifters wouldn't be the same "marine specials(5 sets)" that he fcked Billy's shop on.
I see cslob wasn't to busy with Bristol,as he was posting at 8am on conformance.
those xx lifters wouldn't be the same "marine specials(5 sets)" that he fcked Billy's shop on.
I see cslob wasn't to busy with Bristol,as he was posting at 8am on conformance.
Shaun,
The owner of the shop where bill and Matt worked called me and we were talking about stuff. He mentioned he had issues with Johns heads. I told Coughlin if he needed anything that John and I had a good relationship and if needed anything to let me know.
I spoke with John Fenton, the owner of Canfield, about the heads and that one of Coughlin employees had done the work. Johns words to me were, Chris I could have given a monkey a grinder and he could have done a better job.".
Shaun I have kept my mouth shut about that comment for many years but you opened the door and I have no problem bringing it to a close. If you want me to bring Mr. Fenton out on this I will be more than happy to.
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That "certain person" with the ZZ502's, after getting screwed by cstraub, had too much class and was too much of a gentleman to make public just what a schidt deal he got from cstraub. And yet, cstraub has the ballz to come on OSO and throw it in his face. What a POS......
Hey, you still selling those XX lifters out the back door, Chirs? LOL
Hey, you still selling those XX lifters out the back door, Chirs? LOL
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You are SO full of yourself, that you are starting to believe yourself. Your cam picks have broken stuff on Corvettes, Chevelles, Speedwake, and probably other sites I don't even know about. You ALWAYS blame someone else. You never make a mistake. Newsflash. you are not smarter than Crane Comp or any one else, even though you think you are. There are dozens of people out there, who just feel so foolish that they bought a cam from an internet wizard that they are embarsesed to say so. Conformance might buy your BS, but no one in the offshore world does.
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Too bad kidnova was talking about your cam crap, not someones heads.
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From: brewster ma
Shaun,
The owner of the shop where bill and Matt worked called me and we were talking about stuff. He mentioned he had issues with Johns heads. I told Coughlin if he needed anything that John and I had a good relationship and if needed anything to let me know.
I spoke with John Fenton, the owner of Canfield, about the heads and that one of Coughlin employees had done the work. Johns words to me were, Chris I could have given a monkey a grinder and he could have done a better job.".
Shaun I have kept my mouth shut about that comment for many years but you opened the door and I have no problem bringing it to a close. If you want me to bring Mr. Fenton out on this I will be more than happy to.
The owner of the shop where bill and Matt worked called me and we were talking about stuff. He mentioned he had issues with Johns heads. I told Coughlin if he needed anything that John and I had a good relationship and if needed anything to let me know.
I spoke with John Fenton, the owner of Canfield, about the heads and that one of Coughlin employees had done the work. Johns words to me were, Chris I could have given a monkey a grinder and he could have done a better job.".
Shaun I have kept my mouth shut about that comment for many years but you opened the door and I have no problem bringing it to a close. If you want me to bring Mr. Fenton out on this I will be more than happy to.
Just talked to Bill,he said nice try.He did say he liked how you asked speedtalk forum for help picking the cam for the sb2.2 motor.You never did get an answer or pick the cam for that engine either.


