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#301
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Is there anyone in TN that can take CSTRAB out back and put him down. So much misdirection w this guy on every post. I wouldnt hire this guy to be a sales person at Walmart. Just reading all these posts and the others on Boatfreaks the facts show him to be mostly incompetant when it comes to marine engines and even engines in particular. How come no customers or engine builders come to your defense or say how you really helped them out?????
#302
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S30 - just so you know. You are not alone. A handful of years ago , a good amt of people ran into this 'no top end' oiling thing with Morels and the other lifters , Like Lunati, that where made by Morel.
I know you like Google, so just type in Morel no oil flow to cylinder heads or morel no oil flow. You'll find a bunch who tried returning them to no avail and others who cut a groove from the oiling hole on side of lifter.
Here's one: http://www.429-460.com/t17236p75-new...-no-oil-to-top
Don't let Chris tell you otherwise. It was very for real.
I know you like Google, so just type in Morel no oil flow to cylinder heads or morel no oil flow. You'll find a bunch who tried returning them to no avail and others who cut a groove from the oiling hole on side of lifter.
Here's one: http://www.429-460.com/t17236p75-new...-no-oil-to-top
Don't let Chris tell you otherwise. It was very for real.
Re: new morel lifters no oil to top?
Paul Kane on Tue 2 Apr 2013 - 1:00
.nitro717 wrote:
I put new morel lifter in to replace the old comps and now have no oil up top. Using a drill to prime it havent started it yet, did notive to oil hole are 90degrees off from the comps. Get about 40 lbs of pressure with the drill.Morel intentionally manufactures their lifters with a lifter body diameter that is on the high side (those which are sold under the Morel brand name). They do this so that the performance engine builder can size his lifter bore clearances exactly where he wants them, just like sizing the pin end of a con rod, for example. It's intended as high-end application stuff. If you don't set the lifter bore clearance, you may not get adequate top end oiling.
New blocks will need to have the lifter bores sized, and used blocks often need to be sized...or you can lightly notch the lifters instead of honing the lifter bores. (Another nice thing is if a used block's lifter bores are worn a thou or so, the Morels can "compensate" for that in some builds.) I think it's great that we have a lifter body with alkl of this in mind, and from a high quality manufacturer.
And Morel makes some very high quality lifters. People who use them and companies that offer them under their own brand name include: Force, Roush/Yates, Hendrick's, RCR...Isky, Crower, Merc, Lunati, and more.
Paul
Scott,
You ask any engine builder what the main and rod clearance is and they can tell you. You ask 10 of them what the lifter to bore clearance is and 1 can tell you. The industry std is if they drop in the fit. Morels are at OEM size and need OEM tolerance. .0003" of extra oil clearance on a 2.450" main reduces oil flow by 1GPM. YOu take 16 lifter bores that are on the large size and you tell me how much oil is lost every minute due to internal bleeding. IT IS THE ENGINE BUILDERS RESPONSIBILTY TO CHECK CLEARANCES.
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You didn't read all of it, but that's typical.
Why do you have such a hard on to tell so many people they are wrong.
I was telling S30 he was not a lone. Others discovered other lifters not having the problem....some had grooves from the manufacturer, and when these grooves where applied to the Morels, they worked.
Why do you have such a hard on to tell so many people they are wrong.
I was telling S30 he was not a lone. Others discovered other lifters not having the problem....some had grooves from the manufacturer, and when these grooves where applied to the Morels, they worked.
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I think it is great that you want to be somebody in this industry. I would suggest instead of tearing down anyone that disagrees with you I would concentrate on work and doing your best. If you dont' understand something then ask someone who does. Calling people names and accusing them of having substance abuse issues does nothing for your future.
You claims on S30 are beyond lame. He has the boats/engines to prove his ability to make marine power. the only thing you have is BS piled on top of the last pile of BS you made.
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Doug,
The picture Bill printed of using SOLO cups to hold tooling said it all. Look at the picture with the Duramax. That's what he considers a clean room....a smart person with some simple mechanical skills and the ability to read can catch that the guide clearance was not checked in these engines and that led to the failure. Blaming the part failure is easy. Admitting that we missed a critical tolerance is another. Bill has hung himself with his own statements.
The picture Bill printed of using SOLO cups to hold tooling said it all. Look at the picture with the Duramax. That's what he considers a clean room....a smart person with some simple mechanical skills and the ability to read can catch that the guide clearance was not checked in these engines and that led to the failure. Blaming the part failure is easy. Admitting that we missed a critical tolerance is another. Bill has hung himself with his own statements.
#309
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From: Great Sacandaga Lake, NY
Too bad a build off between the 2 combatants can't not be arranged with no outside assistance. Same cu in, carbed, no SC, pump gas. All machine work and assembly done by each individual..


