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sutphen 30 01-30-2014 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by cstraub (Post 4066128)
Bill,
John Fenton, the previous owner of Canfield Heads, was the one that made a comment about your port work, it was not me Bill.
.

thats an out and out lie.and learn to spell Tom's name correctly con man.

HaxbySpeed 01-30-2014 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by cstraub (Post 3514989)
Sir,
I haven't slipped back nor do I pretend to be a cam guru. Your coming to your own conclusions.

Remember this? Got called out for peddling chitty cams, much like your previous recommendation in this thread, and then pull the "who me, I never said I was an expert"

Quit dropping names, and crawl back under your rock. Should I be impressed that you know that I had two blocks machined at CNC three years ago? It was posted in another thread on this forum.

sutphen 30 01-30-2014 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by cstraub (Post 4066129)
Bill,
You being an accomplished engine builder and tuner you should not need my cam specs.

Chris

thats right liar,I like my engines to make improvements in speed.

buthet,you spred lies about zones motor blowing up when in fact its still runs after 11yrs.

cstraub 01-30-2014 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by sutphen 30 (Post 4066131)
come on liar straub

maybe you want to talk about a cylinder head of canfields,that was destroyed by your cam,dropped a valve.but the best part of the lie is when you said John and you were talking and that I was the one that fixed it.liar that you are,you spred lies about me fixing said head,even though I was in the hospital at the time.and for a fact,canfield was the the one that actually fixed the head.but you spred the lie about me anyway.
as for the cams in those blower motors,again,I was not around to spec them so Tom field a cold call from a con man and let you do them.
boat befoer cams ran 92mph,better heads,cam and such,ran 91mph.nice cams you speced.

Bill,Bill,Bill,
Your are correct, the heads were shipped back to Canfield for repair, thats when Fenton got to see your port work. The call I got was for lifters, remember "Drag Race Lifters". I think Crane, Comp, Isky, Lunati, and several companies all have different level of lifters but they are not designated for an application. A solid roller lifter is used in a solid roller application Bill. It's up to the person buying the lifter what they want to spend.

sutphen 30 01-30-2014 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by HaxbySpeed (Post 4066134)
Remember this? Got called out for peddling chitty cams, much like your previous recommendation in this thread, and then pull the "who me, I never said I was an expert"

Quit dropping names, and crawl back under your rock. Should I be impressed that you know that I had two blocks machined at CNC three years ago? It was posted in another thread on this forum.

thats how he does it,cold calls everyone and buddies up to them to gain info on all sorts of stuff,,the typical MO of a con man.

sutphen 30 01-30-2014 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by cstraub (Post 4066136)
Bill,Bill,Bill,
Your are correct, the heads were shipped back to Canfield for repair, thats when Fenton got to see your port work. The call I got was for lifters, remember "Drag Race Lifters". I think Crane, Comp, Isky, Lunati, and several companies all have different level of lifters but they are not designated for an application. A solid roller lifter is used in a solid roller application Bill. It's up to the person buying the lifter what they want to spend.

no no you drunken clown,,you,thats right,you sold the lifters to Tom.they had oiling problems to the top end,caught that screw up by you on the stand.all 5 sets.see,the truth never changes,still the same story from me.all the way back to 2005.try to lie correctly con man,
your chitty cam broke a valve.
the heads you fool were when I was out on a medical.So again oh brain dead one,as much as you want it to be me,,it wasn't.so for the last time oh liar,,stop spredding a lie.end of story.

cstraub 01-30-2014 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by HaxbySpeed (Post 4066134)
Remember this? Got called out for peddling chitty cams, much like your previous recommendation in this thread, and then pull the "who me, I never said I was an expert"

Quit dropping names, and crawl back under your rock. Should I be impressed that you know that I had two blocks machined at CNC three years ago? It was posted in another thread on this forum.

Expert, Guru, I don't have an ego that needs to be stroked so I don't use those labels. My customers go out with my stuff and win championships, period. Just this month a well respected engine builder called me, I about fell out of my chair as he has been around 40 years, called to tell me he had several of my cams on his dyno and was impressed with all of them. I did a marine blower cam for him this week.

I don't think we have ever met, what is your first name?

cstraub 01-30-2014 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by sutphen 30 (Post 4066141)
no no you drunken clown,,you,thats right,you sold the lifters to Tom.they had oiling problems to the top end,caught that screw up by you on the stand.all 5 sets.see,the truth never changes,still the same story from me.all the way back to 2005.try to lie correctly con man,
your chitty cam broke a valve.
the heads you fool were when I was out on a medical.So again oh brain dead one,as much as you want it to be me,,it wasn't.so for the last time oh liar,,stop spredding a lie.end of story.

bill,
So not enough guide clearance on a blower motor application is the cams fault.

brian41 01-30-2014 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by cstraub (Post 4066099)
I don't think we have ever met, what is your name?

Brian Orlandi from Orlandi Performance, I do not want to meet or do business with you.

I have had the opportunity to replace 2 of your cam "recommendations" over the past 3-4 years so that the customer could run wet exhaust and mufflers. Both made more speed (= + TQ ...you know the thing that makes boats go faster) after the change. They also lost the impressive docking in gear stumble/stall problems.

Black Baja 01-30-2014 10:03 AM

I take it you guys are all business people... Don't you have anything better to do than throw stones at each other? What is someone that is new to this forum or never been on it before gonna think if they come across this thread? If you are professionals at what you do then please show a little professionalism.

cstraub 01-30-2014 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by Black Baja (Post 4066179)
I take it you guys are all business people... Don't you have anything better to do than throw stones at each other? What is someone that is new to this forum or never been on it before gonna think if they come across this thread? If you are professionals at what you do then please show a little professionalism.

Burtonsville Performance is over you way. I deal with Steve there. They would be able to assist you in your goals.

brian41 01-30-2014 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by Black Baja (Post 4066179)
I take it you guys are all business people... Don't you have anything better to do than throw stones at each other? What is someone that is new to this forum or never been on it before gonna think if they come across this thread? If you are professionals at what you do then please show a little professionalism.



Some are business people myself included. 2 are just idiots that this sand box has no need for but they still find their way back only to be reminded of what they are. I will admit that I am a stone thrower when stones need to be thrown. I do not give out advise unless I am sure that what I give is sound and proven. So many of us can't be wrong about these 2. The members coming out against them are all successful in this industry with good reputations. Maybe the members looking for sound advise should listen to those that have proven themselves and help weed the site of the Pole-smoker C-slobs not defend them for the sake of being nice nice.

cstraub 01-30-2014 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by brian41 (Post 4066196)
Some are business people myself included. 2 are just idiots that this sand box has no need for but they still find their way back only to be reminded of what they are. I will admit that I am a stone thrower when stones need to be thrown. I do not give out advise unless I am sure that what I give is sound and proven. So many of us can't be wrong about these 2. The members coming out against them are all successful in this industry with good reputations. Maybe the members looking for sound advise should listen to those that have proven themselves and help weed the site of the Pole-smoker C-slobs not defend them for the sake of being nice nice.

Brian,
If you google search myself, Straubtechnologies.com, or custom camshafts the only negative about me is from the same people posting on 1 forum. I've had many customers that they have read that thread and after doing so and reading between the lines they call me. Many of them engine builders.

Chris

Zone 5 01-30-2014 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by cstraub (Post 4066098)
It's funny Scott listed Boatfreaks.org, you yourself banned me from that site years ago when you all got kicked offf another site. I hardly think I can "sell" something on a website I haven't been on in several years.

You were banned from that site years and years before anything on any other site appeared. About the time the 1st of your mulytiple cam picks blew up into little bitty pieces.

Zone 5 01-30-2014 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by cstraub (Post 4066099)
I don't think we have ever met, what is your name?

Ya know, its really none of your business what people's names are. Unlike you, we aren't here trying to make money by selling crap. If people wanted you to know there name, they would use it on the board.

Zone 5 01-30-2014 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by cstraub (Post 4066128)
Bill,
John Fenton, the previous owner of Canfield Heads, was the one that made a comment about your port work, it was not me Bill.
.

Thats the Company that is out of business right? Yea, that speaks well for what his comments would be.

Zone 5 01-30-2014 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by cstraub (Post 4066132)
We do laugh about stuff, Mike Jones, Ed Curtis, Buddy Rawls, they are all good guys.

Trying to impress us with what car cams you picked? My cat can pick a cam that will make a stock SS396 run faster. Big deal.

Black Baja 01-30-2014 11:05 AM

Hey Chris who is grinding your cams?

Zone 5 01-30-2014 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by Black Baja (Post 4066179)
I take it you guys are all business people... Don't you have anything better to do than throw stones at each other? What is someone that is new to this forum or never been on it before gonna think if they come across this thread? If you are professionals at what you do then please show a little professionalism.

Someone new? If they read this hopefully they are going to see that almost 100% of straub's marine cam picks don't work as claimed.. Hopefully they will go elsewhere and not get the shaft (no pun intended) as so many other people have.

Ask straub how come one of his acclaimed cams couldn't get the boat beyond 4000 with a 19p prop. Ask him why he speced a cam for a specific engine and boat, and then when it wouldn't run, he told teh guy he needed to buy new heads. I'm sure he is going to come up with so BS about this, but the benefit of the internet, is that the true stuff is all out there if you look.

All he does is drop names, and then thinks he is impressive because he calls us by our first name. Here is a hint. Every person on this thread that he has called by name knows he is a fraud, and wishes he would stop pretending to know us by calling us by name.

cstraub 01-30-2014 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by Black Baja (Post 4066220)
Hey Chris who is grinding your cams?

Andrews, Bullet, Clay Smith, Crane, Demos, GS, and Isky.

Zone 5 01-30-2014 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by cstraub (Post 4066207)
Brian,
If you google search myself, Straubtechnologies.com, or custom camshafts the only negative about me is from the same people posting on 1 forum. I've had many customers that they have read that thread and after doing so and reading between the lines they call me. Many of them engine builders.

Chris

Bull chit. your nightmares are everywhere from the Corvette forum to every marine forum. If anyone searches any offshore forum, they will find nothing but complaints. the 2 sites where your "buddies" live are the only 2 that have a good thing to say about you, but hey, when you sell them parts at or below cost, they will say anything to keep the deals coming.

Zone 5 01-30-2014 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by cstraub (Post 4066129)
Bill,
You being an accomplished engine builder and tuner you should not need my cam specs.

Chris

You are right, he doesn't need your crap. My boat gainned ELEVEN mph after HE redid the motor. It ran for the 7 years I owned it, and now after 11 or so, its still running with the new owner. Yet you tried to claim on THIS forum that it blew up.

Zone 5 01-30-2014 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by Black Baja (Post 4066220)
Hey Chris who is grinding your cams?


Originally Posted by cstraub (Post 4066224)
Andrews, Bullet, Clay Smith, Crane, Demos, GS, and Isky.

IOW, the same people you or I or anyone can call to get a custom cam done.

brian41 01-30-2014 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by cstraub (Post 4066207)
Brian,
If you google search myself, Straubtechnologies.com, or custom camshafts the only negative about me is from the same people posting on 1 forum. I've had many customers that they have read that thread and after doing so and reading between the lines they call me. Many of them engine builders.

Chris

Went to your site and had visions of Fred at Trick Marine. Please by all means show us your business property with all its equipment, inventory and hired help. It must be a monster taking up several square miles of real estate to house all the BS you offer. I see you have your own line of AFR heads.......thats impressive why have I never heard of them? Does AFR actually put your name casted in the heads?

Zone 5 01-30-2014 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by brian41 (Post 4066229)
Went to your site and had visions of Fred at Trick Marine. Please by all means show us your business property with all its equipment, inventory and hired help. It must be a monster taking up several square miles of real estate to house all the BS you offer. I see you have your own line of AFR heads.......thats impressive why have I never heard of them? Does AFR actually put your name casted in the heads?

I thought the same thing. But hey, at least he paid a pretty good web designer to do the site.
Note that he stocks none of that stuff. Wal-Mart couldn't afford to have that. almost everything he sells is drop shipped.

cstraub 01-30-2014 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by Zone 5 (Post 4066222)
Someone new? If they read this hopefully they are going to see that almost 100% of straub's marine cam picks don't work as claimed.. Hopefully they will go elsewhere and not get the shaft (no pun intended) as so many other people have.

Ask straub how come one of his acclaimed cams couldn't get the boat beyond 4000 with a 19p prop. Ask him why he speced a cam for a specific engine and boat, and then when it wouldn't run, he told teh guy he needed to buy new heads. I'm sure he is going to come up with so BS about this, but the benefit of the internet, is that the true stuff is all out there if you look.

All he does is drop names, and then thinks he is impressive because he calls us by our first name. Here is a hint. Every person on this thread that he has called by name knows he is a fraud, and wishes he would stop pretending to know us by calling us by name.

Doug,
I have nothing to hide. I post my real name. I have a real business that is growing. My customers are happy, mfg, engine builders and retail, and I am crucified if I dont' say who I am dealing with and the reverse if I do.

Again Google is your friend.

cstraub 01-30-2014 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by brian41 (Post 4066229)
Went to your site and had visions of Fred at Trick Marine. Please by all means show us your business property with all its equipment, inventory and hired help. It must be a monster taking up several square miles of real estate to house all the BS you offer. I see you have your own line of AFR heads.......thats impressive why have I never heard of them? Does AFR actually put your name casted in the heads?

Brian,
I deal with multiple cylinder head companies as a Vendor/Customer basis.

cstraub 01-30-2014 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by Zone 5 (Post 4066231)
I thought the same thing. But hey, at least he paid a pretty good web designer to do the site.
Note that he stocks none of that stuff. Wal-Mart couldn't afford to have that. almost everything he sells is drop shipped.

I guess the 200 sets of Morel lifters here are "vapor lifters"

Zone 5 01-30-2014 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by cstraub (Post 4066236)
I guess the 200 sets of Morel lifters here are "vapor lifters"

WOW. impressive. you have lifters in stock. you have all this stuff in stock too?

AN Fittings
AN Wrenches

Battery Boxes
Braided Line
Bolts and Fastners
Bronze Distributor Gears

Cam lock plates
Cam Buttons
Camshafts
Carb Parts

Degree Bushings

Gaskets
Guide Plates


Ignition Parts, Modules/Caps

Lifters, OEM
Lifters, Aftermarket Roller

Oil Pans
Oil Restrictors
Oil Pump Primers

Poly Locks

Retainers, Steel and Ti
Rocker Arm Balls and Nuts
Rocker Arm Studs


Spark Plug Wires
Starters
Stud Girdles

Timing Covers
Timing Pointers, Billet

Valves
Valve Locks, 7, Super 7, 10 degree
Valve Springs

Wheel Studs
Wheel Screws

Unlimited jd 01-30-2014 11:40 AM

Wow if this guy dropped panties as fast as he dropped names he'd be hangin with Ron Jeremy instead of dicking around on here! Oh and it's Bobby Carrita btw

Zone 5 01-30-2014 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by cstraub (Post 4066232)
I have nothing to hide. I post my real name. I have a real business that is growing. My customers are happy, mfg, engine builders and retail, and I am crucified if I dont' say who I am dealing with and the reverse if I do.

Again Google is your friend.

you post your name to try and suck people in. I notice you ignored 2 of your most notible MARINE failures in your reply

Zone 5 01-30-2014 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by lil red (Post 4066241)
Wow if this guy dropped panties as fast as he dropped names he'd be hangin with Ron Jeremy instead of dicking around on here! Oh and it's Bobby Carrita btw

check out the guy he hired to build engines. If he really made the bogus numbers that he claimed, he would be the head engine builder for every Cup and NHRA team.

brian41 01-30-2014 11:48 AM

I google earthed his business addy and got a couple acres of trees.

SB 01-30-2014 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by cstraub (Post 4065683)
That cam in the 540 would idle at 450 rpm. It had 12" vacuum at 900 rpm. Based on its power out put and power range and how its manners were it would work in a marine application with dry exhaust. At 83 degrees of overlap you could not run that in wet exhaust.

So, you finally agree the below cam you sold Adam for a 496 with stock type exhaust sucked water ? You only let him build the engine a THIRD TIME.....and then we, not you, pushed you two to install a Crane 731 derivative which got him back on the water and actually using the boat instead of breaking the motor.

Your cam choice - was in his two first motors that failed right off the bat.
Intakeº / Exhaustº
duration at .006" 291º / 309º
duration at .050" 238º / 250º
duration at .200" 158º / 163º
Intake Centerline (ICL)112º
Exhaust Centerline (ECL)112º
Lobe Seperation Angle (LSA) 112º
Overlap at .006" = 76º (for reference Crane '731 has 60º / Crane '741 has 68º overlap at .006" )
Overlap at .050"= 20º

cstraub 01-30-2014 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4066383)
So, you finally agree the below cam you sold Adam for a 496 with stock type exhaust sucked water ? You only let him build the engine a THIRD TIME.....and then we, not you, pushed you two to install a Crane 731 derivative which got him back on the water and actually using the boat instead of breaking the motor.

Your cam choice - was in his two first motors that failed right off the bat.
Intakeº / Exhaustº
duration at .006" 291º / 309º
duration at .050" 238º / 250º
duration at .200" 158º / 163º
Intake Centerline (ICL)112º
Exhaust Centerline (ECL)112º
Lobe Seperation Angle (LSA) 112º
Overlap at .006" = 76º (for reference Crane '731 has 60º / Crane '741 has 68º overlap at .006" )
Overlap at .050"= 20º

Scott,
The risers on the engine were found to be bad also. The engine failed in the first place, the reason for the rebuild because of the risers being rotted out. NOBODY has control over what happens with used wet exhaust. That cam has since been run in another marine engine and is still running today.

Just got in a set of heads off a 540 with wet exhaust. Set of AFR 325's. No signs of reversion. Engine was built in '05.

cstraub 01-30-2014 04:32 PM

Here you go Scott. This cam in the 80's and 90's was the marine blower cam from Reed

Intake Duration - ID 300
Exhaust Duration - ED 300
Lobe Center Angle - LCA (also known as LSA) 112
Intake Centerline - ICL 111


Intake Valve opens - IVO 39
Intake Valve closes - IVC 81
Exhaust Valve Opens - EVO 83
Exhaust Valve Closes - EVC 37
Exhaust Centerline - ECL 113
Overlap 76


I was used by several with wet exhaust.

SB 01-30-2014 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by cstraub (Post 4066402)
Scott,
The risers on the engine were found to be bad also. The engine failed in the first place, the reason for the rebuild because of the risers being rotted out. NOBODY has control over what happens with used wet exhaust. That cam has since been run in another marine engine and is still running today.

Just got in a set of heads off a 540 with wet exhaust. Set of AFR 325's. No signs of reversion. Engine was built in '05.

Yup, that motor you are now referencing probably has a stock type exhaust too - right ? Not. No chance with a 540 and AFR's.

Keep re-wording things. In one case it's good and in another it's bad. Whatever sounds good to you.

BTW: That cam is brutal.

With your help he broke 2 motors. With ours, he enjoyed his third. Fact.

cstraub 01-30-2014 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4066407)
Yup, that motor you are now referencing probably has a stock type exhaust too - right ? Not. No chance with a 540 and AFR's.

Keep re-wording things. In one case it's good and in another it's bad. Whatever sounds good to you.

BTW: That cam is brutal.

With your help he broke 2 motors. With ours, he enjoyed his third. Fact.

Scott,
What you don't seem to understand is the risers were pressure fed and was leaking.

SB 01-30-2014 04:43 PM

What part of stock exhaust don't you understand.

What did that 540 have ?

What where those Reed cammed engine's and what exhaust ?

You still have no clue about all the different exhausts used in I/O boats.

I/O are not jets and v drives....Totally different deal....

Keep blaming everyone for your I/O disasters. And let others fix them for you. Maybe that's why people are angry with you.

cstraub 01-30-2014 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4066418)
What part of stock exhaust don't you understand.

What did that 540 have ?

What where those Reed cammed engine's and what exhaust ?

You still have no clue about all the different exhausts used in I/O boats.

I/O are not jets and v drives....Totally different deal....

Keep blaming everyone for your I/O disasters. And let others fix them for you. Maybe that's why people are angry with you.

540 Had EMI Thunders

Reeds were used in the 89 to 94' era.


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