Go Back  Offshoreonly.com > Technical > General Q & A
milkshake or condensation >

milkshake or condensation

Notices

milkshake or condensation

Thread Tools
 
Old 07-02-2018, 01:26 PM
  #1  
Registered
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Reno, NV
Posts: 310
Received 18 Likes on 9 Posts
Default milkshake or condensation

Had the misfortune of doing a great milkshake job on my new rebuild in may on its maiden voyage. Not positive but think it was leaking through the water jacket on the head that seals to the intake as it is pitted and I used no rtv. So I finally got the motor back together with plenty of RTV this time and took it out for its first outing on Lake Tahoe, which is a very cold lake. Motor ran great no issues. I kept checking the dipstick for any problems and it showed clear for about 10 minutes. I checked it again about 15 minutes in and it showed a little cloudy so I freaked out and got the boat back on the trailer. During the 20 minutes or so out we ran the boat mostly in the 4500-5k range and the oil temp never got above 160 and the water temp never got over 105. I had no thermostat in it, I do have a 160 installed now. My oil cooler does a have thermostat. I came home and pulled the motor back out and drained the oil. There is a few pics of the oil I drained and also what I just saw taking off the valve covers. So is it condensation from the motor or oil never getting hot enough or do I have another leak? The oil I drained looks perfect.

Tahoe540 is offline  
Old 07-02-2018, 02:06 PM
  #2  
Registered
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 2,886
Received 143 Likes on 95 Posts
Default

That condensation is beyond my experience, but when I popped a gasket the oil filter was full of sludge. When I had bad condensation before installing oil stats it looked similar but about half that bad from 60* water with no sludge in the filter.


Last edited by Baja Rooster; 07-02-2018 at 02:08 PM.
Baja Rooster is offline  
Old 07-02-2018, 03:31 PM
  #3  
Registered
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 2,061
Received 419 Likes on 247 Posts
Default

IMO that's more than condensation for 15 minutes run time.
underpsi68 is offline  
Old 07-02-2018, 03:38 PM
  #4  
VIP Member
VIP Member
 
BBYSTWY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Sodus MI
Posts: 1,651
Received 249 Likes on 125 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by underpsi68
IMO that's more than condensation for 15 minutes run time.
agreed....did the oil level rise at all or just turn milky??

I can't remember the history here but I know you had issues with this motor before right?? did everything get magnafluxed prior to assembly?? block and heads?? is it possible to have a cracked head or intake or something?? I would think that has to be a leak to turn that milky in such a short amount of time
BBYSTWY is offline  
Old 07-02-2018, 04:33 PM
  #5  
Registered
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Cudjoe Key FL
Posts: 854
Received 107 Likes on 51 Posts
Default

I just had a very similar experience with my builds, turned out to be “hole” in the exhaust port which I overlooked several times but the machine shop found it right away. My suggestion is pull the heads and have them pressure tested ASAP before you have to take the motor completely apart again to get rid of the milkshake. Multiple oil changes is not the best way to clean it out IMO. Good luck.
sonicss42 is offline  
Old 07-02-2018, 05:12 PM
  #6  
Registered
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Reno, NV
Posts: 310
Received 18 Likes on 9 Posts
Default

Thanks for the responses. The history is the block did get two new sleeves for this rebuild. After it milkshaked I had the block pressure tested but did not have the heads done or magnafluxed. The block pressure tested fine. I have to take it completely apart to clean correctly at this point. The motor has all good internals might just need to start with a new block and aluminum heads. Sucks I am getting so good at installing and removing engines LOL. Had this one out in 30 minutes
Tahoe540 is offline  
Old 07-02-2018, 05:32 PM
  #7  
Registered
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 2,886
Received 143 Likes on 95 Posts
Default

This is usually when the drive bellows develops a mysterious tear overnight before the insurance policy needs to be renewed.

Best of luck!
Baja Rooster is offline  
Old 07-02-2018, 05:32 PM
  #8  
Registered
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: North Florida
Posts: 649
Received 121 Likes on 58 Posts
Default

I hate to hear it Tahoe. I know you have had a bad bunch of luck lately. Cross your I’s and dot your T’s and it will all work out.
ph1971 is offline  
Old 07-02-2018, 05:41 PM
  #9  
SB
Registered
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: On A Dirt Floor
Posts: 13,546
Received 3,115 Likes on 1,402 Posts
Default

Another reason why Merc blue motors have pcv's and not just vents. ie: motors that have condensation issues. Works real well.

Use a good thread sealer on your headbolts too.
SB is offline  
Old 07-02-2018, 07:02 PM
  #10  
Platinum Member
Platinum Member
iTrader: (6)
 
F-2 Speedy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Midwest & T-Rock
Posts: 10,418
Received 3,048 Likes on 1,357 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by SB
Another reason why Merc blue motors have pcv's and not just vents. ie: motors that have condensation issues. Works real well.

Use a good thread sealer on your headbolts too.
exactly , I had a mysterious oil leak that would puddle a small amount in front of the distributor on the intake after a 24 hr period, pulled the rear 4 intake bolts, sealed them and it never happened again....oil , water will push by the threads under pressure
F-2 Speedy is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.