LS Build: In Progress
#122
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From: taxachusetts
I love that this is catching on. 4-5 years ago everyone thought I was crazy for thinking I could build reliable LS engine that were turbo charged. This summer I put over 45 hours on my 42 Fountain without a hiccup. The best part was all the double takes as people walked by it at the Shootout while we had it tied up at Ron's.
Keep up the good work!
Keep up the good work!
#123
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From: chicago
I noticed you said you were replacing blown bbc engines that were burning 110gph EACH. Im hoping these were making at least 1000hp each neighborhood ?
I do understand some engine designs are more fuel efficient than others, but at some point it still takes x amount of fuel to make x amount of hp.
in the truck world, when the LS was an option along side the 8.1L bbc engine, the fuel savings were not all that impressive in my opinion. If you took a mid 2000s chevy 3500 dually 4x4 , with a 4.10 rear, and towed a boat, its not like the 8.1 got 8mpg while the 6.0 liter ls was getting 16mpg towing the same load. There was a small fuel mileage gain with the 6 liter, but it also didnt make nearly the torque the 8.1 liter did, nor did it make that torque at such a low rpm as the 8.1 liter did.
Ive had a few tow rigs . A 6 liter ford diesel, 5.4 gas ford, v10 gas ford, and 454 vortec chevy. They all got in the 8-10mpg range towing a heavy boat. My theory is it simply requires x amount of fuel to keep a truck/boat going at 70mph, and theres only so much fat to trim to get it done.
I dont buy the story that a 600hp LS is gonna be a huge game changer for your wallet at the gas pump over a similarly equipped bbc making 600hp.
That being said, looking forward to the results. Always fun to see something different being built.
I do understand some engine designs are more fuel efficient than others, but at some point it still takes x amount of fuel to make x amount of hp.
in the truck world, when the LS was an option along side the 8.1L bbc engine, the fuel savings were not all that impressive in my opinion. If you took a mid 2000s chevy 3500 dually 4x4 , with a 4.10 rear, and towed a boat, its not like the 8.1 got 8mpg while the 6.0 liter ls was getting 16mpg towing the same load. There was a small fuel mileage gain with the 6 liter, but it also didnt make nearly the torque the 8.1 liter did, nor did it make that torque at such a low rpm as the 8.1 liter did.
Ive had a few tow rigs . A 6 liter ford diesel, 5.4 gas ford, v10 gas ford, and 454 vortec chevy. They all got in the 8-10mpg range towing a heavy boat. My theory is it simply requires x amount of fuel to keep a truck/boat going at 70mph, and theres only so much fat to trim to get it done.
I dont buy the story that a 600hp LS is gonna be a huge game changer for your wallet at the gas pump over a similarly equipped bbc making 600hp.
That being said, looking forward to the results. Always fun to see something different being built.
#124
I noticed you said you were replacing blown bbc engines that were burning 110gph EACH. Im hoping these were making at least 1000hp each neighborhood ?
I do understand some engine designs are more fuel efficient than others, but at some point it still takes x amount of fuel to make x amount of hp.
in the truck world, when the LS was an option along side the 8.1L bbc engine, the fuel savings were not all that impressive in my opinion. If you took a mid 2000s chevy 3500 dually 4x4 , with a 4.10 rear, and towed a boat, its not like the 8.1 got 8mpg while the 6.0 liter ls was getting 16mpg towing the same load. There was a small fuel mileage gain with the 6 liter, but it also didnt make nearly the torque the 8.1 liter did, nor did it make that torque at such a low rpm as the 8.1 liter did.
Ive had a few tow rigs . A 6 liter ford diesel, 5.4 gas ford, v10 gas ford, and 454 vortec chevy. They all got in the 8-10mpg range towing a heavy boat. My theory is it simply requires x amount of fuel to keep a truck/boat going at 70mph, and theres only so much fat to trim to get it done.
I dont buy the story that a 600hp LS is gonna be a huge game changer for your wallet at the gas pump over a similarly equipped bbc making 600hp.
That being said, looking forward to the results. Always fun to see something different being built.
I do understand some engine designs are more fuel efficient than others, but at some point it still takes x amount of fuel to make x amount of hp.
in the truck world, when the LS was an option along side the 8.1L bbc engine, the fuel savings were not all that impressive in my opinion. If you took a mid 2000s chevy 3500 dually 4x4 , with a 4.10 rear, and towed a boat, its not like the 8.1 got 8mpg while the 6.0 liter ls was getting 16mpg towing the same load. There was a small fuel mileage gain with the 6 liter, but it also didnt make nearly the torque the 8.1 liter did, nor did it make that torque at such a low rpm as the 8.1 liter did.
Ive had a few tow rigs . A 6 liter ford diesel, 5.4 gas ford, v10 gas ford, and 454 vortec chevy. They all got in the 8-10mpg range towing a heavy boat. My theory is it simply requires x amount of fuel to keep a truck/boat going at 70mph, and theres only so much fat to trim to get it done.
I dont buy the story that a 600hp LS is gonna be a huge game changer for your wallet at the gas pump over a similarly equipped bbc making 600hp.
That being said, looking forward to the results. Always fun to see something different being built.
Btw MT, that's why I went with the 3:73 8.1L truck...
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#125
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From: Hudson, IL
Thanks! These were garret with our water-cooled housings. Tial provides the basic housing, but we have to make quite a few modifications to fit the package. Moving forward all of our LS and Merc turbo kits are Zona Rotor. They are cast, machined and assembled right here in the USA with the marine environment in mind.
#126
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From: Hudson, IL
I noticed you said you were replacing blown bbc engines that were burning 110gph EACH. Im hoping these were making at least 1000hp each neighborhood ?
I do understand some engine designs are more fuel efficient than others, but at some point it still takes x amount of fuel to make x amount of hp.
in the truck world, when the LS was an option along side the 8.1L bbc engine, the fuel savings were not all that impressive in my opinion. If you took a mid 2000s chevy 3500 dually 4x4 , with a 4.10 rear, and towed a boat, its not like the 8.1 got 8mpg while the 6.0 liter ls was getting 16mpg towing the same load. There was a small fuel mileage gain with the 6 liter, but it also didnt make nearly the torque the 8.1 liter did, nor did it make that torque at such a low rpm as the 8.1 liter did.
Ive had a few tow rigs . A 6 liter ford diesel, 5.4 gas ford, v10 gas ford, and 454 vortec chevy. They all got in the 8-10mpg range towing a heavy boat. My theory is it simply requires x amount of fuel to keep a truck/boat going at 70mph, and theres only so much fat to trim to get it done.
I dont buy the story that a 600hp LS is gonna be a huge game changer for your wallet at the gas pump over a similarly equipped bbc making 600hp.
That being said, looking forward to the results. Always fun to see something different being built.
I do understand some engine designs are more fuel efficient than others, but at some point it still takes x amount of fuel to make x amount of hp.
in the truck world, when the LS was an option along side the 8.1L bbc engine, the fuel savings were not all that impressive in my opinion. If you took a mid 2000s chevy 3500 dually 4x4 , with a 4.10 rear, and towed a boat, its not like the 8.1 got 8mpg while the 6.0 liter ls was getting 16mpg towing the same load. There was a small fuel mileage gain with the 6 liter, but it also didnt make nearly the torque the 8.1 liter did, nor did it make that torque at such a low rpm as the 8.1 liter did.
Ive had a few tow rigs . A 6 liter ford diesel, 5.4 gas ford, v10 gas ford, and 454 vortec chevy. They all got in the 8-10mpg range towing a heavy boat. My theory is it simply requires x amount of fuel to keep a truck/boat going at 70mph, and theres only so much fat to trim to get it done.
I dont buy the story that a 600hp LS is gonna be a huge game changer for your wallet at the gas pump over a similarly equipped bbc making 600hp.
That being said, looking forward to the results. Always fun to see something different being built.
#127
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From: South East Michigan
I am currently debating on whether I should reinstall a BBC 467 8.72:1 CR, or buy everything for the L92 with vvt delete, cam, lifters, and pushrod upgrade I have sitting in the garage for around $3500. Weight savings and the ability to spin higher rpm may justify the Tq loss some. But then again going to a 376(even stroked to 408) from a 467 is a big difference in low end Tq capabilities. This would be going in a 1977 24' Panther/cheetah/lancer all the same hull. I've been waking up for the past month every morning talking myself in and out of one or the other. That being said I' am interested to see how these turnout. Of course budget is a priority for me being young and trying to have some offshore fun, should probably just reinstall the 467 and enjoy boating... see here I go again talking myself out of the Ls.... Kids..
Those water cooled housings are pretty neat, did some research on that. I didn't realize how many are actually available.
Those water cooled housings are pretty neat, did some research on that. I didn't realize how many are actually available.
#128
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From: Toledo Oh
I am currently debating on whether I should reinstall a BBC 467 8.72:1 CR, or buy everything for the L92 with vvt delete, cam, lifters, and pushrod upgrade I have sitting in the garage for around $3500. Weight savings and the ability to spin higher rpm may justify the Tq loss some. But then again going to a 376(even stroked to 408) from a 467 is a big difference in low end Tq capabilities. This would be going in a 1977 24' Panther/cheetah/lancer all the same hull. I've been waking up for the past month every morning talking myself in and out of one or the other. That being said I' am interested to see how these turnout. Of course budget is a priority for me being young and trying to have some offshore fun, should probably just reinstall the 467 and enjoy boating... see here I go again talking myself out of the Ls.... Kids..
Those water cooled housings are pretty neat, did some research on that. I didn't realize how many are actually available.
Those water cooled housings are pretty neat, did some research on that. I didn't realize how many are actually available.
#130
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From: Hudson, IL



