47 Wellcraft Excalibur finally in the water, a thank you to those who helped!
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What is your RPM range, and what is your drive ratio? I was thinking that a 24-26 pitch would be my starting point. I have the 1.5 ratio drives.
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peak hp @ 5200
1.5:1 drives
Jim Hering spec’d the props, he’s pretty good at props 😉
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42mph @ 4000
50+ @ 5500
where it was before cupping props and destroying B3 drives
expecting
50ish at 3700ish
62+@5200
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Yes, I was expecting to see better numbers too. When I used the Go-fast BAM speed calculator for the B3s, it comes up real close to actual speeds.
https://www.go-fast.com/Knowledge-ba...eed-calculator
Which is The Square Root of (Total Shaft Horsepower / Weight ) plus the crouch hull type factor. I used 250 crouch as that was what worked out using the stock config.
Then I use this calculator to get the mathematical speed based on prop/ratio/rpm:
https://goodcalculators.com/boat-prop-calculator/
b3 2.0/24p 4800rpm Hull constant of 250
Bam predicts 48mph
Actually attained 45mph
Works out to about 16% slip.
Same math should apply to the Surface drives:
Arnesons, 1.56/24p 4800rpm est 16% slip
BAM predicts 58mph @3600 41mph
Sounds like I may be optimistic with the 24pitch. But could it be that you may have under propped? I dont wish to run above 4800 rpm. A 21p puts my est speed at a less than desirable 51mph per the math. I had planned to use a 24p......
https://www.go-fast.com/Knowledge-ba...eed-calculator
Which is The Square Root of (Total Shaft Horsepower / Weight ) plus the crouch hull type factor. I used 250 crouch as that was what worked out using the stock config.
1336 hp 60.99
1069 hp 54.55 (85% shaft HP)
I used this calculator to get the estimated speed based on HP only. Crouch constant is a common factor used to estimate hull speed based on hull type, length etc. 1069 hp 54.55 (85% shaft HP)
Then I use this calculator to get the mathematical speed based on prop/ratio/rpm:
https://goodcalculators.com/boat-prop-calculator/
b3 2.0/24p 4800rpm Hull constant of 250
Bam predicts 48mph
Actually attained 45mph
Works out to about 16% slip.
Same math should apply to the Surface drives:
Arnesons, 1.56/24p 4800rpm est 16% slip
BAM predicts 58mph @3600 41mph
Sounds like I may be optimistic with the 24pitch. But could it be that you may have under propped? I dont wish to run above 4800 rpm. A 21p puts my est speed at a less than desirable 51mph per the math. I had planned to use a 24p......
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Yes, I was expecting to see better numbers too. When I used the Go-fast BAM speed calculator for the B3s, it comes up real close to actual speeds.
https://www.go-fast.com/Knowledge-ba...eed-calculator
Which is The Square Root of (Total Shaft Horsepower / Weight ) plus the crouch hull type factor. I used 250 crouch as that was what worked out using the stock config.
Then I use this calculator to get the mathematical speed based on prop/ratio/rpm:
https://goodcalculators.com/boat-prop-calculator/
b3 2.0/24p 4800rpm Hull constant of 250
Bam predicts 48mph
Actually attained 45mph
Works out to about 16% slip.
Same math should apply to the Surface drives:
Arnesons, 1.56/24p 4800rpm est 16% slip
BAM predicts 58mph @3600 41mph
Sounds like I may be optimistic with the 24pitch. But could it be that you may have under propped? I dont wish to run above 4800 rpm. A 21p puts my est speed at a less than desirable 51mph per the math. I had planned to use a 24p......
https://www.go-fast.com/Knowledge-ba...eed-calculator
Which is The Square Root of (Total Shaft Horsepower / Weight ) plus the crouch hull type factor. I used 250 crouch as that was what worked out using the stock config.
1336 hp 60.99
1069 hp 54.55 (85% shaft HP)
I used this calculator to get the estimated speed based on HP only. Crouch constant is a common factor used to estimate hull speed based on hull type, length etc.1069 hp 54.55 (85% shaft HP)
Then I use this calculator to get the mathematical speed based on prop/ratio/rpm:
https://goodcalculators.com/boat-prop-calculator/
b3 2.0/24p 4800rpm Hull constant of 250
Bam predicts 48mph
Actually attained 45mph
Works out to about 16% slip.
Same math should apply to the Surface drives:
Arnesons, 1.56/24p 4800rpm est 16% slip
BAM predicts 58mph @3600 41mph
Sounds like I may be optimistic with the 24pitch. But could it be that you may have under propped? I dont wish to run above 4800 rpm. A 21p puts my est speed at a less than desirable 51mph per the math. I had planned to use a 24p......
3900rpm 45-47 mph
5200rpm 55 mph


As far as the current set up, the props were chosen based on experience from Rik and Jim Hering trying to make Excal’burs and 400SS run with the Arneson. I’ve used the same formulas you’ve used on this boat and others and they are pretty close when equipped with alphas and bravos.
I’m going to reserve judgment until I have current props scanned and reworked.
Ive seen amazing results from proper prop tuning, amazing as in “this is like a different boat” results



