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Optimum Air/Fuel Ratio for Supercharged Motors
Compression ratios in the 7or 8:1 range can usually handle 12-20 psi on pump gasoline.
and 9:1 can run 8-14psi?

Whoever wrote that needs to put down the crack pipe and get some help.



Deep if you`re not allowed to be at the dyno that`s a HUGE red flag.
Try and keep me from seeing my own dyno , that`s not going to go work out for the engine builder .
Last edited by ICDEDPPL; 12-13-2021 at 04:09 PM.
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Tyler Crockett`s numbers look good to me.
Optimum Air/Fuel Ratio for Supercharged Motors
12- 20psi as if there wasn`t much difference, lmao.
and 9:1 can run 8-14psi?
Whoever wrote that needs to put down the crack pipe and get some help.



Deep if you`re not allowed to be at the dyno that`s a HUGE red flag.
Try and keep me from seeing my own dyno , that`s not going to go work out for the engine builder .
Optimum Air/Fuel Ratio for Supercharged Motors
12- 20psi as if there wasn`t much difference, lmao.
and 9:1 can run 8-14psi?

Whoever wrote that needs to put down the crack pipe and get some help.



Deep if you`re not allowed to be at the dyno that`s a HUGE red flag.
Try and keep me from seeing my own dyno , that`s not going to go work out for the engine builder .
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So I have been running a M3 Procharger on 502s, small roller cam, carbed,. headers. WOT 9 LBs boost and 10.5 ish AFR. never had issues yet been 14 years now. static CR is 9.2
I think all engines are different with heads, cams, ign systems, boat weight, etc. so I don't believe much in the chart.
I think all engines are different with heads, cams, ign systems, boat weight, etc. so I don't believe much in the chart.
Last edited by abones; 12-13-2021 at 05:05 PM.
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Thanks ICDEAD. Mr Horsepower "The majority of the engines we build are supercharged. A lot of builders like to run conservative A/F ratios, usually 12.0-12.5:1. I personally through our in house dyno tuning find that ratios of 12.9 (being the richest) and 13.3:1 will make more horsepower. The most important thing to remember when tuning for maximum horsepower, that will be reliable is that the boat has the correct fuel delivery system to supply the engine. Carb or EFI engines both need fuel curves which are ramped properly."
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So I have been running a M3 Procharger on 502s, small roller cam, carbed,. headers. WOT 9 LBs boost and 10.5 ish AFR. never had issues yet been 14 years now.
I think all engines are different with heads, cams, ign systems, boat weight, etc. so I don't believe much in the chart.
I think all engines are different with heads, cams, ign systems, boat weight, etc. so I don't believe much in the chart.
I couldn’t agree more. Every app/build is specific to the rule of thumb. Actually is no rule of thumb considering all the factors. JMO as always. Well maybe some good old school experience also. Then they introduced the chillers / coolers whatever you prefer to call them put a whole new factor in the mix. That’s a great thing but still…. We boat in so many different conditions/environments and builds. That’s what makes it so important to be build specific.
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Thanks ICDEAD. Mr Horsepower "The majority of the engines we build are supercharged. A lot of builders like to run conservative A/F ratios, usually 12.0-12.5:1. I personally through our in house dyno tuning find that ratios of 12.9 (being the richest) and 13.3:1 will make more horsepower. The most important thing to remember when tuning for maximum horsepower, that will be reliable is that the boat has the correct fuel delivery system to supply the engine. Carb or EFI engines both need fuel curves which are ramped properly."
Build them right and do a cool tune and they’ll last. Don’t get greedy with power over 1 - 2 mph. Simple but yes can be expensive!!!
btw thumbs up to Apache on the video I posted from years ago. Bad a$$ engines there to withstand that kind of abuse. That’s running hard for any hardcore boater. At least me anyway. I love it. 💪🏽😎
Last edited by getrdunn; 12-13-2021 at 05:20 PM.
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Thanks ICDEAD. Mr Horsepower "The majority of the engines we build are supercharged. A lot of builders like to run conservative A/F ratios, usually 12.0-12.5:1. I personally through our in house dyno tuning find that ratios of 12.9 (being the richest) and 13.3:1 will make more horsepower. The most important thing to remember when tuning for maximum horsepower, that will be reliable is that the boat has the correct fuel delivery system to supply the engine. Carb or EFI engines both need fuel curves which are ramped properly."
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Agreed. I was going to travel upstate NY and get a room the night before. Excuses why not to come up and then a phone call, hey your engine is done and made so so hp. WTF Still so pissed off by chit that happened in 2015 the engine went to the corner of the garage and I was really tempted to leave the sport. I trusted the WRONG people. I should have trusted myself to do the build. I let the boost scare me as this is a one shot deal for my poor azz. At 65yo I would like to run it up the lake a few times at trips and sell it. The price of an SCX alone may get me divorced. lol
If i had known I would have went over to Jim Ford's for you I know the place and his dyno operator .




