Recreational boats just out for a day on the water or are you talking race boats actually competing in races? The two 37 AT's weren't racing when they went put on an acrobatics show... Big difference if so!

Just for comparison the only epoxy 37 OL built was a staggered 525 boat and ran 90+ with full cabin. Also not cool bringing up the only OL accident that had deaths due to driver error.

Probably safe to say all of these spins/rolls had some driver error related to them...

Yes

Good info Dan. Would you say that boat is comparable to Adams? There is a staggered 37 AT that ran 95 with 600's.

Don't believe that boat had full cockpit and cabin like the newer ones. Should be comparable speed wise. Amazing a 1993 hull design is still fairly fast. Won't have any time in an AT till Adam gets his together.

Just making a point sorry dan. We all know the offshore rollover legend, cigarette takes the cake in that category.

Massey had those engines warmed up and also put some decent parts in them when he was forced to have them rebuilt (after rolling the boat). He said the boat ran around 91-92 when he got it and 94-95 after bumping up the engines a bit. Even so, I don't think you can compare even stock 600 numbers with those of a 525, those SC engines make a lot more torque. Pat at AT claims there was no speed advantage with the staggard setup. I still find this strange and wonder if it had more to do with that boat having a very heavy layup (which he admitted), even though it only had a partial cockpit. Regardless, I think it's safe to say mid 80's is pretty much the norm for stock 37 AT's with 525's, very reasonable IMO given the full cabin and typical well appointed features.

With that being said, you know as well as I do Adam's wont have 'stock' power either, if he ever gets this one put back together! :drink:

Stepped boats spin out we have all seen the videos. Now saying Cigarette has more spin outs then others may or may not be true I seriously don't know( but I am sure Mr.Offshore will tell us), but on a percentage basis I would "think" that Outerlimits or Active Thunder might have them beat. Oh yeah and Adam are going to run whipples on those 525's? That would be a sweet set up... and I would hate to see you back there with 525 Top Guns.

OL and AT do not have them beat even on a percentage basis.