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Originally Posted by glassdave
(Post 3164414)
what is meant by "up bagging"? I have seen you use that term before.
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Originally Posted by glassdave
(Post 3164414)
what is meant by "up bagging"? I have seen you use that term before.
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Originally Posted by Semper Fi
(Post 3164044)
Is the owner of this boat Rusty West? GREAT posts Steve1 !!!
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Dave Here is an example the B-61 and the C-930 Outboard (Cool Boat with a sliding fuel tank)which was @125# Lighter than the B-61 Hull and Deck at 1750# All up Bagging the hard work pays off.
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thats a nice boat :coolcowboy:
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Originally Posted by 302Sport
(Post 3164722)
thats a nice boat :coolcowboy:
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Originally Posted by northernoffshore
(Post 3164744)
who redid your boat into side by side?
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somebody out in cali......i want to get rid of the 4's w/boxes and go with a pair of arnesons. it runs almost 90 right now, and i think with steve doing the bottom and going to arnesons i could be knocking at 100mph with 550hp in a straight bottom 33ft pleasure boat. steve, can you shoot me a PM about doing my transom back to a blank sheet to start with.
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Its ashame Dan went out the way he did 'cause he had one hellova boat.
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Originally Posted by Steve 1
(Post 3164703)
Dave Here is an example the B-61 and the C-930 Outboard (Cool Boat with a sliding fuel tank)which was @125# Lighter at 1750# All up Bagging the hard work pays off.
Any pictures? :) |
It was a tank with a trim cylinder behind it on rails..that allowed the weight to be shifted forward ( by switch ) as soon as the fuel went lower in the tank , to keep the boat running the same at all times no matter if the tank had 80 or 10 gallons in it !!!!!!!
IT WORKED !!!!!!!!! |
Originally Posted by Wally
(Post 3165272)
A sliding tank? please tell me more! i had an idea like this a few years back and thought i was innovative in my thoughts! :D
Any pictures? :) |
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Powerplay 33 SS Transom Stbd side view of that Boat,This does not do the Paint justice it was way cool up close
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Originally Posted by Steve 1
(Post 3165301)
There are pictures, the tank was setup to be slid forward as the fuel was burned off and it worked pretty good from what I heard. When the Pictures come up I will let you know.
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Originally Posted by Wally
(Post 3165558)
And here i thought i had an orriginal idea! :D I thought of the very same thing like 3yrs ago...mounting the tank on a set of rails that get bolted to the stringers and possibly slide the tank back and forth with a hyd ram to chnage the center of gravity or running attitude of the boat on the fly.... if you find the pics the please post them! Thanks Steve, still the top thread on here for sure! :D
Wally it was your original Idea,You never saw this boat before.I will post pictures when they are found. and Thanks for the compliment. |
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Powerplay 38 CNCed deck plug ready to be shipped south to the factory.
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Powerplay 38 Hull Building Vacuum Bagging Core, here you can see the excess material starting to come up the perforations.
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jeeze you get an award and stop posting :D :violent-smiley-045:
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Originally Posted by SpeedGirl
(Post 3166387)
jeeze you get an award and stop posting :D :violent-smiley-045:
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Learning Curve never ends.
When Danny Hired me around this time a decision was made that a Sport Deck was needed in the line, anyway in those days we "winged it" No plans just build it,which is fine someplace's BUT this was Powerplay! Day one,My Instructions were simple make it a good bit like Danny's 33 well, OK, and do it quick! boats are selling already!! a hull was rolled in and I set it up dead level,Then cut a bunch of deck beams with a 2" crown and screwed them into place and clad the half that was visible coming in the door with some cheap 1/4" AC Fir that I would change for Birch upon approval. Ok Day 2 morning have the deck framed except for carlins (cockpit) and half the thing clad with build ups, went to the office to get the boss knowing there would be some changes. SOME !!!! anyway Danny came in the shop "well that is close to what I want"change this and that, But what stunned me when I laid a 12' Batten on it he is standing 20 feet away and says raise it 1/16" a sixteenth!!!!!:eek: Ok we built 11 or 12 of these half deck mock ups before finally I got the Go! I knocked the deck plug out quick waxed and sprayed it with clear then red tooling and built the mold (one man Band) Meanwhile my oldest son 3 learned to ride a bike in the parking area with the instructions; Son STAY away from the Grey Porsche !!! the other cars I can pay for if you hit them. http://i30.tinypic.com/25uruy0.jpg |
Originally Posted by Steve 1
(Post 3166442)
Learning Curve never ends.
When Danny Hired me around this time a decision was made that a Sport Deck was needed in the line, anyway in those days we "winged it" No plans just build it,which is fine someplace's BUT this was Powerplay! Day one,My Instructions were simple make it a good bit like Danny's 33 well, OK, and do it quick! boats are selling already!! a hull was rolled in and I set it up dead level,Then cut a bunch of deck beams with a 2" crown and screwed them into place and clad the half that was visible coming in the door with some cheap 1/4" AC Fir that I would change for Birch upon approval. Ok Day 2 morning have the deck framed except for carlins (cockpit) and half the thing clad with build ups, went to the office to get the boss knowing there would be some changes. SOME !!!! anyway Danny came in the shop "well that is close to what I want"change this and that, But what stunned me when I laid a 12' Batten on it he is standing 20 feet away and says raise it 1/16" a sixteenth!!!!!:eek: Ok we built 11 or 12 of these half deck mock ups before finally I got the Go! I knocked the deck plug out quick waxed and sprayed it with clear then red tooling and built the mold (one man Band) Meanwhile my oldest son 3 learned to ride a bike in the parking area with the instructions; Son STAY away from the Grey Porsche !!! the other cars I can pay for if you hit them. http://i30.tinypic.com/25uruy0.jpg |
Originally Posted by rlj676
(Post 3166536)
I'd say his meticulous eye created some of the best lines on any performance boat out there! Classic S Fl looks.:drink:
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Steve, in simple terms is this the order the layup went?
1. Clean/wax mold 2. gelcoat 3. Glass/resin 4. corebond (putty) 5. core material 6. vacuum bag 7. glass/resin Ready for stringers/bulkheads I guess I always assumed the vacuum bagging was used on glass/resin, but it appears it is used on the coring. Does the vacuum draw the paste material up through the core? Thanks, Darren |
Originally Posted by dkwestern
(Post 3166646)
Steve, in simple terms is this the order the layup went?
1. Clean/wax mold 2. gelcoat 3. Glass/resin 4. corebond (putty) 5. core material 6. vacuum bag 7. glass/resin Ready for stringers/bulkheads I guess I always assumed the vacuum bagging was used on glass/resin, but it appears it is used on the coring. Does the vacuum draw the paste material up through the core? Thanks, Darren Here you can see the Corebond paste coming through the Perforations. http://i29.tinypic.com/erd6k0.jpg |
Great History!!!
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Originally Posted by TOASTY
(Post 3166655)
Great History!!!
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Originally Posted by rlj676
(Post 3166536)
I'd say his meticulous eye created some of the best lines on any performance boat out there! Classic S Fl looks.:drink:
One night I was spraying the last coat of Duratec on that late and in those days used a #7 Binks was fogging that stuff on,heard the Porsche come ripping across the parking lot in first gear stop right in front of my door and the windshield wipers crunch from the heavy over-spray on the glass. |
Originally Posted by Steve 1
(Post 3166664)
That Deck came out of Dans head, there were no drawings not one, trust me when I say it is exactly what he wanted when done.
One night I was spraying the last coat of Duratec on that late and in those days used a #7 Binks was fogging that stuff on,heard the Porsche come ripping across the parking lot in first gear stop right in front of my door and the windshield wipers crunch from the heavy over-spray on the glass. |
Powerplay 38 Hull getting Ready for glass, block for the bow eye is in and a little 36 grit sanding is in order then laminate.
http://i29.tinypic.com/2ljru2p.jpg |
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Originally Posted by northernoffshore
(Post 3167300)
1991
Way Cool Thanks. Here is is after testing,Note the Euro hardware Danny was using in those days. http://i31.tinypic.com/2lbgwns.jpg |
Steve, how many staggered 33's were built, was it a good combo? Also which was a better performing package OB or IO?
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are all those floating pics taken in the tiny lake behind the factory?
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