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Dave bagging the thick core in the deck made for a real stiff and structurally sound part in the end.
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i can imagine, i would also bet the care you took to lay everything up and the attention to detail like fitting the core also added significantly to structural sound-ness. I can tell ya one thing if i ever run across one of the race hull i'm gonna get me a nice long look on the inside :cool:
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quick question about the cores you used. When i build simple parts like hatches, dashes ect. i generally just bond the core wet on wet with ounce and a half mat. Is CoreBond something that is mandatory with performance related dynamic cores? Is it always better to use a bedding compound over placing the core wet with the rest of the lamination?
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Originally Posted by glassdave
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quick question about the cores you used. When i build simple parts like hatches, dashes ect. i generally just bond the core wet on wet with ounce and a half mat. Is CoreBond something that is mandatory with performance related dynamic cores? Is it always better to use a bedding compound over placing the core wet with the rest of the lamination?
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I built a few smaller boats, sixteen footers, using two layers of 1708, a layer of mat, 1/2 inch balsa core and two more layers of 1708. Did the entire layup in about six hours all wet on wet. The mold was supplied by the customer and impossible to bag out of so she was saturated but balanced best i could. I was always curious about the advantages of corebond in the system.
These were copys of the old Gar Wood tenders. Had a fiberglass running surface with an all wood super structure. Nothin fancy but a cool little boat when done. |
Originally Posted by glassdave
(Post 3170973)
I built a few smaller boats, sixteen footers, using two layers of 1708, a layer of mat, 1/2 inch balsa core and two more layers of 1708. Did the entire layup in about six hours all wet on wet. The mold was supplied by the customer and impossible to bag out of so she was saturated but balanced best i could. I was always curious about the advantages of corebond in the system.
These were copys of the old Gar Wood tenders. Had a fiberglass running surface with an all wood super structure. Nothin fancy but a cool little boat when done. |
Originally Posted by glassdave
(Post 3170973)
I built a few smaller boats, sixteen footers, using two layers of 1708, a layer of mat, 1/2 inch balsa core and two more layers of 1708. Did the entire layup in about six hours all wet on wet. The mold was supplied by the customer and impossible to bag out of so she was saturated but balanced best i could. I was always curious about the advantages of corebond in the system.
These were copys of the old Gar Wood tenders. Had a fiberglass running surface with an all wood super structure. Nothin fancy but a cool little boat when done. You can see by the photos why I liked working with Danny and miss that company. |
Originally Posted by Steve 1
(Post 3170992)
You can see by the photos why I liked working with Danny and miss that company.
ok enough butt kiss'in now get some more pics up (tech stuff please) :D |
Originally Posted by glassdave
(Post 3171031)
actually yes i can, its rare that someone gives you the opportunity to really explore the possibilities of your talents and i envy the experience. I really do feel we're privileged that your giving us a first hand account and letting us have look in inside
ok enough butt kiss'in now get some more pics up (tech stuff please) :D |
Originally Posted by BBILL1174
(Post 3169261)
THats a great shot Steve. I never saw that many Powerplay's together.
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powerplay 25 one engine
oups, can't take off with 26 bravo one (promax X)
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ludo back in the day all outboard Powerplays had Choppers.
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Originally Posted by ludo73
(Post 3173216)
oups, can't take off with 26 bravo one (promax X)
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will try a 21 mirage tomorrow, should run good
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can't exceed 1800 rpm with 26 bravo one
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Originally Posted by ludo73
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can't exceed 1800 rpm with 26 bravo one
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Originally Posted by Steve 1
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Sir thank you for that post ,the real acknowledgments go to the Boss Danny who made Powerplay ,nothing went out that he would not personally own,like I have said before being the last one to leave many times ,would see the rigging shop open and there was Danny personally redoing something he did not like , we were stepping more into the 21st century I was putting a new epoxy tooling system together as well,that would have been used on the 40+++' line.
I've known Danny for a lot of years. His boats were always first class, and never left the shop until they passed his final inspection. He might have been difficult to deal with at times, but, you always got a hell of a lot more than you paid for. With Steve and the rest of the crew, putting your DREAM together, you were proud of the the final product. That was not the norm in the South Florida boat building business. Over the years I had the opportunity to sell a few PP's and never once, had an unhappy customer. Steve, thanks for a great thread, and keep up the good work. |
Steve, on post 1585, I am surprised to see the cockpit as an intregral part of the deck. Don't get me wrong, I think it's great, I would also think that would be a difficult pull. What sort of draft did you need on the sides of the cockpit to be able to pull that long (deep) of a section from the mold?
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Originally Posted by wideawake
(Post 3173709)
I've known Danny for a lot of years.
His boats were always first class, and never left the shop until they passed his final inspection. He might have been difficult to deal with at times, but, you always got a hell of a lot more than you paid for. With Steve and the rest of the crew, putting your DREAM together, you were proud of the the final product. That was not the norm in the South Florida boat building business. Over the years I had the opportunity to sell a few PP's and never once, had an unhappy customer. Steve, thanks for a great thread, and keep up the good work. |
Originally Posted by BajaDan
(Post 3173713)
Steve, on post 1585, I am surprised to see the cockpit as an intregral part of the deck. Don't get me wrong, I think it's great, I would also think that would be a difficult pull. What sort of draft did you need on the sides of the cockpit to be able to pull that long (deep) of a section from the mold?
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Steve great thread thanks for doing this, it is awesome that your taking the time for this! I do have a question about the 33' decks, did you ever find that there was alot of flex in the deck of the 33'? have you had complaints about this? or have seen this your self? I have read more about the PP 33' since you started this thread the boat seems to be built top notch I find it strange after you showing us the construction that the deck would flex and be weak. Can you shine some light on this for me? I love the boats and looking for the next ride and this thread has really got me looking at the PP more than ever! Thanks!!!
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Originally Posted by sunsation96
(Post 3173790)
Steve great thread thanks for doing this, it is awesome that your taking the time for this! I do have a question about the 33' decks, did you ever find that there was alot of flex in the deck of the 33'? have you had complaints about this? or have seen this your self? I have read more about the PP 33' since you atarted this thread the boat seems to be built top notch I find it strange after you showing us the construction that the deck would flex and be weak. Can you shine some light on this for me? I love the boats and looking for the next ride and this thread has really got me looking at the PP more than ever! Thanks!!!
I have not been aware of any unacceptable flex in a 33 deck it is a cored structure and the finishers when polishing and final detail would work on it, we had one guy heaver than me, he weighed 250 on it polishing and no deflection. The boss always had a production boat of his own and ran the boats hard in the open ocean. |
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Originally Posted by Steve 1
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I have not been aware of any unacceptable flex in a 33 deck it is a cored structure and the finishers when polishing and final detail would work on it, we had one guy heaver than me, he weighed 250 on it polishing and no deflection.
The boss always had a production boat of his own and ran the boats hard in the open ocean. |
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IMO one of the coolest you have posted could be the photo too but simply awesome
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Originally Posted by sunsation96
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IMO one of the coolest you have posted could be the photo too but simply awesome
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Originally Posted by sunsation96
(Post 3173790)
Steve great thread thanks for doing this, it is awesome that your taking the time for this! I do have a question about the 33' decks, did you ever find that there was alot of flex in the deck of the 33'? have you had complaints about this? or have seen this your self? I have read more about the PP 33' since you started this thread the boat seems to be built top notch I find it strange after you showing us the construction that the deck would flex and be weak. Can you shine some light on this for me? I love the boats and looking for the next ride and this thread has really got me looking at the PP more than ever! Thanks!!!
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Originally Posted by rlj676
(Post 3174216)
Curious where you've read this? I have a 28 (obviously a little different) but the deck is rock solid. Several people can be on it, no flex. The boat is solid, and I couldn't imagine a 33 differing as they have the same beam, etc.
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an elephant could walk on my deck.........
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