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KNOT-RIGHT 11-06-2007 07:47 AM

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These guys know how to spend money.

KNOT-RIGHT 11-06-2007 07:48 AM

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Some more

KNOT-RIGHT 11-06-2007 07:58 AM

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Some great installations.

I may eat these words but I think it may be easier to install
a turbine then a piston engine.:cool:

The biggest challenge would be exhaust and the
custom bell housing to SCS Crashbox.

KNOT-RIGHT 11-06-2007 04:21 PM

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Here is the Turbine instalation of the original MYWAY.

Back in 1999.

1CE 11-06-2007 11:12 PM

sweet
 

Originally Posted by KNOT-RIGHT (Post 2328519)
Here are some pictures of other Turbine installations.


Glad to know that I,m not the only Fruit loop:p

orangy/yellow one

1CE 11-06-2007 11:14 PM

clean
 

Originally Posted by KNOT-RIGHT (Post 2328524)
Some more

well lade out and simply direct to the focus of it all, the white 1

1CE 11-06-2007 11:17 PM

Squadron
 

Originally Posted by KNOT-RIGHT (Post 2328530)
Some great installations.

I may eat these words but I think it may be easier to install
a turbine then a piston engine.:cool:

The biggest challenge would be exhaust and the
custom bell housing to SCS Crashbox.

Gerry, what is that rail for along the exhaust system ?

1CE 11-06-2007 11:24 PM

2-times
 

Originally Posted by KNOT-RIGHT (Post 2328991)
Here is the Turbine instalation of the original MYWAY.

Back in 1999.

ya u-had to do it again:cheer:ps Jim Lee invites me I'll be a runnin darn fast ! Saw him last year when he pulled Freedom out @ Truman. K.W.:D

1CE 11-06-2007 11:29 PM

tow
 

Originally Posted by KNOT-RIGHT (Post 2327594)
This is what I have and really do not want to use it is big
heavy and draws 65amps at 12 volt.

I have lost a powersteering motor and have been offshore
it is a pain in the Arz But You really only need when ya get close to the dock. Where I launch it is a straight shot.

I could always call Paul to tow my Lard AZZ in.The
Outrageous Rescue team!:hitfan:

if paul or myself are around you will not need tow boat US

KNOT-RIGHT 11-07-2007 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by 1CE (Post 2329330)
Gerry, what is that rail for along the exhaust system ?

I think thats water.
Arruda uses waterjacket exhaust. (Nice idea)
I beleave thats Miss Aquadoll a 50 Nortech.

He,s got the spotlite and the heavys.

The white one I beleave is Geico they are using
the 703 Version of the t53. It produces 1800 SHP
It was designed so the Helicopters could fly to
higher altitude.

Notice How short the Exhaust is kept for the big power
examples.
He loves using the long narrowed exhaust for the pleasure versions. A little better for walking around the boat at docks.
But its gotta be creating back pressure and higher pyros.

1CE 11-07-2007 10:41 PM

ya Miss Aqua Dolly, KW in the morn guta get some shut I thanks jay

KNOT-RIGHT 11-12-2007 09:45 AM

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Both engines are now complete and being prepped
for shipment.

The second engine had some high vibration issues.
Jim and his team ended up swopping out one of the Turbine
Wheels to Solve the problem.


They have worked hard on putting these together
A big thanks for the Hard work!:ernaehrung004:

Stay Tuned guys as we will soon be installing the engines.

KNOT-RIGHT 11-12-2007 09:50 AM

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The other two metalic blue engines are going in the Cat called Warcry.

The Menace 11-12-2007 11:39 AM

They have some buffing time on those puppies. For the most part my engines stay clean. No oil leaks or residue. (great improvement over a piston pumper).
However, I have a little turbine oil that bleeds out of the external magnetic filter. It will leave a nasty yellow stain on vinyl.

KNOT-RIGHT 11-12-2007 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by The Menace (Post 2333222)
They have some buffing time on those puppies. For the most part my engines stay clean. No oil leaks or residue. (great improvement over a piston pumper).
However, I have a little turbine oil that bleeds out of the external magnetic filter. It will leave a nasty yellow stain on vinyl.

No blower belt dust as Saxman said.

What is up with the turbine oil it is nasty smelling.
It makes gear oil smell like roses.
I beleave it is synthetic and eats paint.

On the Test Cell one of the engines had a slight oil leak from
a pinched o ring another good reason to run them on the cell.

mrhorsepower1 11-12-2007 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by 999JAY (Post 2284378)
I gather you don't what to cover those nice shiny hot sections with a containment blanket!
Ever wondered why the hydroplanes have blankets on there hot sections?

Maybe you should have a look at this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F-I0...elated&search=


I know it a bigger motor but there is still a huge amount of energy in those T53 N2 turbines at 100%+

T53 Containment test
http://www.tc.faa.gov/its/worldpac/techrpt/ar98-22.pdf

Go down to the pics at the bottom.

A little Kevlar is worth its weight in gold

Gerry.......KAAAABBBBOOOOOM!

mrhorsepower1 11-12-2007 07:06 PM

Looks Great Brother!!!:cool::ernaehrung004: Your still going to the dark side. LOL.

The Menace 11-13-2007 10:42 AM

The oil has very little odor. Just highly staining. Very yellow.

1CE 11-15-2007 10:54 PM

warm blankets
 

Originally Posted by mrhorsepower1 (Post 2333606)
Gerry.......KAAAABBBBOOOOOM!

Gerry, Saw "Aqua Doll" (squadron),"War Bird" and "Canada Thrust" in K.W. Turbine Marine was Working on "CT" had some fuel press/water press issues I believe. Did not notice the blanket's on them bad line of sight angle. I think "CT" was rapped, looked like a stainless sheild over the blanket to make it look pretty. You prob. know the set ups. Started to get used to the engine's sound especially when "Miss Geico" went by @ well over 120mph into the inner harbor entrance. Had to get the lady a Geico jacket and she looks real good in it too ! see ya j PS don't have to tell ya but your engines look pristine.:cool: Oh, saw Jim Lee he sends his best, says hello ! "I'CE"

KNOT-RIGHT 11-16-2007 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 1CE (Post 2337542)
Gerry, Saw "Aqua Doll" (squadron),"War Bird" and "Canada Thrust" in K.W. Turbine Marine was Working on "CT" had some fuel press/water press issues I believe. Did not notice the blanket's on them bad line of sight angle. I think "CT" was rapped, looked like a stainless sheild over the blanket to make it look pretty. You prob. know the set ups. Started to get used to the engine's sound especially when "Miss Geico" went by @ well over 120mph into the inner harbor entrance. Had to get the lady a Geico jacket and she looks real good in it too ! see ya j PS don't have to tell ya but your engines look pristine.:cool: Oh, saw Jim Lee he sends his best, says hello ! "I'CE"

I dont beleave any of them have blankets.

Those are all Arrudas creations or as the Discovery channel called him the "Howard Hughes of Turbines":D



Here are the new pneumatic cylinders that were
supplied by Northeast Automation
888-819-1992
They sell all kinds of cool pneumatic products.

Jay the Turbines should be here Tuesday.

1CE 11-16-2007 09:56 PM

koooooooooooooool on the del. now let's talk about pneumatics and alllll their usefull applivations tanks. PS spelling a-ok j "I'CE"

KNOT-RIGHT 11-17-2007 08:00 AM

:p

Originally Posted by mrhorsepower1 (Post 2333606)
Gerry.......KAAAABBBBOOOOOM!

Deans trying to scare me back into the light:p

If there are any douters left in the audience.
the next time ya board a plane think of that.

The Menace 11-17-2007 09:30 AM

A blanket on a non jacketed exhaust would perform three functions:

1. Protect the boat (surrounding fiberglass)

2. Lower the ambient heat in the engine compartment.

3. User friendly if you have to get in there while running.

There is no doubt that the exterior of a turbine is hotter than a piston pumper. I can still get in there and crawl around when it is running. One must be aware of what NOT to touch.

For grins I decided to research the ambient heat of a piston vs turbine power. I will install thermocouples and monitor the ambient temps while operating. Will do the 40 Skater piston pumper this winter and the 46 turbine next spring.

Even on the worst day the ambinet is below 175 degrees F otherwise your halons would be discharging. Combustion requires temps far beyond that.

KNOT-RIGHT 11-17-2007 10:33 AM

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I think he is refering to the Kevlar Scatter shield blanket.
As found on the BUD Hydro.

I agree however on the exhaust blanket.
If it is not Water jacketed you almost have to blanket it.
The wrap found on this deal is your basic Header bandage found at any local auto performance shop.
Combined with a specialy made Fire containment wrap
over that.

Considering the engines are on there way and they have
more "bling" then P Didi.
I decided to get things cleaned up.

Whiped out the old Sata Jet B

KNOT-RIGHT 11-17-2007 10:48 AM

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This is a Lexus Metalic blue.

Very similar to mercury blue.
Has some metalic in it.

Here are the catwalks and the brake/ crash boxes.

Rik 11-17-2007 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by The Menace (Post 2338852)
A blanket on a non jacketed exhaust would perform three functions:

1. Protect the boat (surrounding fiberglass)

2. Lower the ambient heat in the engine compartment.

3. User friendly if you have to get in there while running.

There is no doubt that the exterior of a turbine is hotter than a piston pumper. I can still get in there and crawl around when it is running. One must be aware of what NOT to touch.

For grins I decided to research the ambient heat of a piston vs turbine power. I will install thermocouples and monitor the ambient temps while operating. Will do the 40 Skater piston pumper this winter and the 46 turbine next spring.

Even on the worst day the ambinet is below 175 degrees F otherwise your halons would be discharging. Combustion requires temps far beyond that.

I took a simpler approach to the temperature question.

I purchased an thermometer that has a wireless external feature. I put the temperature sensor next to the air intake and put the remote head in the cockpit..

Instant readings, can change location as many time as you wish and in expensive.

satisfied1 11-17-2007 04:00 PM

Man how much money do you think you will have in the retro? Sure looks like that boat will be one bad mother.

KNOT-RIGHT 11-17-2007 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by Rik (Post 2339070)
I took a simpler approach to the temperature question.

I purchased an thermometer that has a wireless external feature. I put the temperature sensor next to the air intake and put the remote head in the cockpit..

Instant readings, can change location as many time as you wish and in expensive.

What kind of temp readings were you sporting?

KNOT-RIGHT 11-17-2007 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by satisfied1 (Post 2339077)
Man how much money do you think you will have in the retro? Sure looks like that boat will be one bad mother.


Would you beleave outside the cost of the turbines
I will have roughly $9000 in misc rigging.
That includes two starter/ Generators for $5000.

Spend the least and get the most!

satisfied1 11-17-2007 04:20 PM

Out of my check book range. Sure look like you are having fun

KNOT-RIGHT 11-19-2007 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by satisfied1 (Post 2339089)
Out of my check book range. Sure look like you are having fun

Me too.
Credit card! The American way.

Here are the custom Turbine sump tanks.

They hold the turbine oil and they mount directly to the
turbines.

I decided to put the buffer to them and shine them up.

Before and after pictured.

Also shown is the assembled crash boxes showing the
calipers with new brake pads.

KNOT-RIGHT 11-19-2007 03:36 PM

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Its amazing how easy they polished up.


I had nothing else to do anyway.

sakoutis3 11-20-2007 01:47 PM

What day do you expect the engines and how did they ship them. When I had to ship my motors to Gellner I couldn't find a shipper that would insure them for more than 5000 each. We wound up driving them out and back ourselves.

KNOT-RIGHT 11-20-2007 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by sakoutis3 (Post 2342629)
What day do you expect the engines and how did they ship them. When I had to ship my motors to Gellner I couldn't find a shipper that would insure them for more than 5000 each. We wound up driving them out and back ourselves.



Yes this is the truth. Shipping insurance is maxed out at
5.00 per lb. on used goods. Atleast with Freight ABF.

I hate to even think about never mind post it on here.

Here I my engines When I shipped them.
Dean actualy gave me the idea for the tiedowns.

Alot of balls and no brains:D

KNOT-RIGHT 11-20-2007 02:32 PM

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the inside view

KNOT-RIGHT 11-20-2007 02:35 PM

PPS the turbine Builder uses FEDEX.

They do this for a living.


I will be pacing the floor wednesday.:party-smiley-004:

Comanche3Six 11-20-2007 07:30 PM

Gerry
When you go in a direction, you go! I admire that.
Best of luck
Ed

KNOT-RIGHT 11-23-2007 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Comanche3Six (Post 2343087)
Gerry
When you go in a direction, you go! I admire that.
Best of luck
Ed


Thanks man!


My complimants to Jim and his Team.
Thank you for the expert service.
Not that I know squat about turbine building But
I would challange any other builder to come close.
Absolutly over the Top!


Well there here. I can tell you the pictures dont do justice
Everyone here at the dealership was all over them.

Now the real fun begins.

Now lets see if I can actualy pull this off:eek:

KNOT-RIGHT 11-23-2007 01:23 PM

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Tommaro I will buff the intakes and install the trans/crashboxes.

I took some quick measurements

Lenth:
The original holes on the engine mounting rails are 36 inches
away from the # 6 flange.
Measured from the first bolt hole.
The first bolt hole on the "can" mount on the turbine is 5.5
inches from where the bell housing mounts.The crashbox
is 19.5inches the drive shaft is 10 inches compressed.
This totals to 35 inches.

Height:
The centerline of the turbine ouput shaft to the bottom of the
"Can" (Container) mount is 7.5 inches.

When laying a flat edge on the engine rails in the Skater
and measuring 7.5 inches up with a straight edge centered
to the # 6 flange it is quite level.

KNOT-RIGHT 11-23-2007 01:29 PM

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Jim took the time to label where everything goes.

That way any brain dead geek can install it.


Looks like I am going to need some O-ring to flare
double male adapters.
These are the fittings similar to what is used on Aeromotive
fuel pumps.
They are used on just about all fuel and oil connections
going to and from the turbine.


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