Originally Posted by paintkahuna

This is actually a good thread with a few minor exceptions. Not that I race in Super Vee but I thought a few things should be noted for everyone to consider:

• As we all know more classes is not what’s best for the sport.
• Racing and technology go hand in hand, it is impossible to stop teams or manufactures from building a better mouse trap.
• In our sport it does not a good financial decision to continue to upgrade to the new and improved version every year. This always leaves out dated equipment.
• Penalizing a race team or manufacture is not the thing to do because they do their homework either.
• Creating a class of antiquated equipment does not have a future either, no one will want to buy a new boat to fit an old class.

For any class to progress or the sport to progress what about getting all of the equipment owners together and allow everyone to voice their side. Then see what common ground can be reached. There is always common ground, example:

Just based on assumptions but here goes:

Reggie wants to win, run out front, get a checkered flag, and maybe some prize money but doubtful. Other fountain teams may be more interested in the money. Everyone else wants to race, keep their cost down, run existing equipment for some predetermined time, and feel they have a chance of winning without having to spend another 100k on upgrades for the season. Close????

If this is the case why not take the class you have and everyone agree to the common ground. What if, Super Vee stays as it is with a break out speed say 105 (Old Kilo Speed) if new boats come out and wax the field on the first race by say 30 seconds, the next race he is indexed to 30 seconds? The next race he wins by 60 seconds, and then he gets an index of 45 seconds, and so on. Keep in mind he can not run over the speed limit.

The new boat has people to race, the sanctioning body has race boats to showcase, the old boats have a chance to win because of the index, and the superior manufacture gets to show publicly he has the best product on the course?

Not that this would be the answer but the point I am trying to make here is that the class needs to stick together and work out a way that everyone gets what they want it may not be perfect but it would be better then the alternative. Super Vee will die as other classes have or at best you will end up with 3-850’s and 5-750’s running in deferent classes and nobody wins, racing continues to suck. It’s not like we have 10-20 people waiting to write checks for a 300k super vee or 500k Super Cat to get the latest technology or ½ that for dated technology.

Just food for thought, It starts and stops with the equipment owners. The owners have to get together and work out the differences and a sanctioning body with out a biased for anyone to make sure the self serving recommendations do not get out of hand.

Originally Posted by louietherigger

Gino, We have 525's in the 35' SV, no big power, we are good for 104-105 in class 2 which is where we have to be to be competitive. Thats why I think the GPS bracket racing is so popular. To have true parity, you would have to run the same hull against the same hull. That is the demise of the V hulls and the savior of the S-cats. Phantom makes a real fast SVL but in SV they had a tough time keeping up. So pump up the power a bit and the problem is solved. Pump it too much and you get protested or break out. Real simple, no pulling motors, no accusations after a race.You dial it in right and there is some great racing. OPA style!! I think your on the right track, thanks for your positive input.
Louie
PS. A supervee that runs 107 would be creamed in P-1, but prop it to 105 it's golden.

Originally Posted by paintkahuna

. It’s not like we have 10-20 people waiting to write checks for a 300k super vee or 500k Super Cat to get the latest technology or ½ that for dated technology..

Originally Posted by cshantry

new foatian is now like 350- 400 come on shane you know you want to

Originally Posted by Wahoo ATV

What is the matter with Class 2 the way it is? "Old" SVs won every race last year except one. (they can't handle big waves) Wazzup, Wanted, Strictly Business, Cintron are all fast as hell with 525s. I think the older SVs sitting in driveways simply need to come out and run. I bet they are all capable of 105 mph with some setup.