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hugetime1 04-04-2006 07:08 PM

Towing capacity question??????
 
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gotime34 04-04-2006 07:10 PM

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I would say no, I wouldn't do it...but I'll just wait for Byrdman to comment. :D

Sydwayz 04-04-2006 07:12 PM

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This has to be a joke.

hugetime1 04-04-2006 07:13 PM

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nope, not a joke, a friend of mine asked me to haul one, and I said no because I didn't think the truck would do it.

bgchuby01 04-04-2006 07:18 PM

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when I lived in Miami in the 70's we towed 38' boats with half ton trucks all of the time. BUT we did not climb long steep hills or have to make sudden stops. Can you truck do it one time? I think so but you will have to drive like an old man so that you don't tear it up.

H20 Toie 04-04-2006 07:27 PM

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If you are really serious DON'T DO IT

hugetime1 04-04-2006 07:56 PM

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yes I am thinking no I will not haul it

hugetime1 04-04-2006 07:57 PM

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I was looking to haul a small one.

JUKED YOU 04-04-2006 08:06 PM

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see if one of your friends has an eldorado or a cherokee you can borrow.

Donzi Corleone 04-04-2006 08:46 PM

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If you wreck u F%^KED

klaw 04-04-2006 08:58 PM

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well is Chris Sunkin going to comment on this?
Considering if you have fuel in the boat and on a steel trailer besides being way over the truck capacity I would be suspect of the hitch.

bojoe2 04-04-2006 09:12 PM

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no way :eek:

wwwTOPDJcom 04-04-2006 09:18 PM

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Huge your a smart guy, you know better :rolleyes:

JB4Boyne 04-04-2006 09:59 PM

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Bigger is better, I can't even feel a little 38 footer behind me. :p

ChrisK 04-04-2006 10:06 PM

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thats a big hell no good buddy!

nolimits 04-04-2006 10:09 PM

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I understand if you have an accident and the cops check the weight of the tow and the capacity of the vehicle, you are screwed. But I thought it was a good question anyway.

I just upgraded to a 38 Fountain with a Myco Trailer (12,500 with fuel ). Had a 29 and used a Land Rover to pull it about. The Land Rover is 1 year into a 3 year lease. Now I got to "do something" else. The wife uses the Land Rover so it's got a use. Drove an F350 Diesel and have been looking at 2500 GM's. Seems it would be a real pain as a full time vehicle. You guys got any idea's?? 2007 Avalanch maybe??

dave911 04-04-2006 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bgchuby01
...we towed 38' boats with half ton trucks all of the time...

I think the Ford F150 is only a quarter ton (but I'm not sure).

nolimits 04-04-2006 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dave911
I think the Ford F150 is only a quarter ton (but I'm not sure).

F150 ( beautiful vehicle ) is limited to 8200 - 9500 lbs. for towing. THe 3/4 ton and 1/2 ton is a payload thing, I think

rickdarling 04-04-2006 10:15 PM

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www.trailerlife.com is a great resource. Once on their web page open up the tech section and go to tow ratings. They have the rating for every SUV/Van and pickup truck ever made between 1999 and 2006. This includes all engine/transmission and gear ratio variations.

382 newbie 04-04-2006 10:16 PM

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I have a 06 F-350 Diesel crew cab. I do not know what it can't do. The Tow Command brake controlleris awsome. Empty freeway...17 mpg..80mph..19 mpg. Comfey and Quiet. My 05 infinity FX rides rougher and gets worse fuel economy

Sydwayz 04-04-2006 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by nolimits
I understand if you have an accident and the cops check the weight of the tow and the capacity of the vehicle, you are screwed. But I thought it was a good question anyway.

I just upgraded to a 38 Fountain with a Myco Trailer (12,500 with fuel ). Had a 29 and used a Land Rover to pull it about. The Land Rover is 1 year into a 3 year lease. Now I got to "do something" else. The wife uses the Land Rover so it's got a use. Drove an F350 Diesel and have been looking at 2500 GM's. Seems it would be a real pain as a full time vehicle. You guys got any idea's?? 2007 Avalanch maybe??

I assume with your Avlanche comment, you mean the 3/4 ton version.
I just sold my 2500 Avalanche, and I miss it a lot. I now have an F-350 PSD dually, and I love this truck as well.

You are going to have to check with your Chevy dealer. I don't think they are making the 2007 Avalanche as a 2500. I don't think the 8.1L is available any longer with the newer 2500 (pickups, suburbans, avalanches, yukons) GMs either.

If you are bent on a daily driver, and want to tow like a mother, go for any of the 3/4 tons or 1 tons (single rear wheel) with a Diesel. What year F-350 did you drive? Was it a dually? 2005 Ford's went to a coil spring front suspension which drastically improves the turning radius.

H20 Toie 04-04-2006 11:40 PM

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i towed my 35' gig with a 3/4 ton avalanche once never do it again. that is why i bought the 05 F350 it tows it great as did a 04 3/4 chevy and 04 f250

Byrdman 04-05-2006 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by gotime34
I would say no, I wouldn't do it...but I'll just wait for Byrdman to comment. :D

No you can not do it with out being a total un intellegent person...notice how my language is much better these days....now if you roll the time back to 1970.....ok...and if you get a weight distribution hitch you can tow everything...remember that hitch will stabilize everything ..you will not even know it is back there till the wind blows and you have to stop for my dad :eek: :D

CigDaze 04-05-2006 07:09 AM

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No way.

Son of a Gun 04-05-2006 07:18 AM

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We used our hemi Ram to pull our TG from where it was kept on the trailer to the ramp, and driving it there put quite a strain on the truck it seemed. It made all sorts of funky noises, sagged the rear end a bit, and took some power to get it to move. We also trailered it about 15 miles to VT Home & Marine. Stopping is a chore on that trip, I can't imagine doing it for 1,000 miles.

FeverFan 04-05-2006 07:44 AM

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I've seen one towed about 300 miles by a 4x4 F150........... 5mpg

I wouldn't do it..........

In the money you spend on gas, he could have it shipped professionally.

OldSchool 04-05-2006 08:00 AM

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You'll be fine. Go for it!!!!!

xhere 04-05-2006 08:12 AM

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Bigger is obviously always better with a tow vehicle, but ya know I always see people go over kill, which is fine but some times alittle ridiculous....Example: A gentleman comes in our store and is looking to order a dually diesel truck, after a few minutes of discussion he ask me if his topper will transfer over to his new truck!!!!!! I ask him why he used a topper on a dually? He said to put life vest and other gear back there...Then I ask what size boat he had. A 20ft crownline he replied!!! Do you pull anything else I ask? Customer states no but I like the stability in the wind when pulling...I have pulled many times hundreds of miles 10k with f150, which is over limits with no problems....Yes you know its back there and yes fuel mileage is 7-9mpg doing so, You wanting to make sure your trailer is set up properly ie weight distribution and trailer brakes working properly. My last tug was in January 06 1250miles in 03 f150 pulling 9000pds running 70-75mpg from New Jersey to Iowa, truck rated @ 8000k...I was a Tech for many years and speeking with different engineers they state that the max towing weight of any vehicle is generally well understated because they dont want warranty claims...But most peoples trucks spend most of there time a people transporter not towing..And yes a 38 is to much for a 1000 mile journey. I currently have a 06 Mark LT rated at 9900pds towing and I would have no problem pulling 11000pds moderate distances..Sorry for rambling, just my .02....

rickdarling 04-05-2006 08:35 AM

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I have been towing the new 35 Lightning with our 1/2 ton 2004 4x4 Suburban. Even with the weight distributing hitch and hydro/electric brakes on two axles, it makes a lot of weird noises, is a complete slug up large hills, and sways (somewhat) at 65 mph. It just doesn't feel 100% so I am not completely comfortable doing it.

As a result, I ended up buying a (used) Ford 2002 F-350 long bed crew cab 4x4 diesel last weekend. I pick it up in Vegas tomorrow night. It was fairly reasonable (less than 17k) so I can keep it as an extra vehicle and use it primarily for towing.

It seemed like a good alternative to buying a new truck and/or taking a bath on the Suburban which we just bought (new) 18 months ago.

Byrdman 04-05-2006 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by xhere
Bigger is obviously always better with a tow vehicle, but ya know I always see people go over kill, which is fine but some times alittle ridiculous....Example: A gentleman comes in our store and is looking to order a dually diesel truck, after a few minutes of discussion he ask me if his topper will transfer over to his new truck!!!!!! I ask him why he used a topper on a dually? He said to put life vest and other gear back there...Then I ask what size boat he had. A 20ft crownline he replied!!! Do you pull anything else I ask? Customer states no but I like the stability in the wind when pulling...I have pulled many times hundreds of miles 10k with f150, which is over limits with no problems....Yes you know its back there and yes fuel mileage is 7-9mpg doing so, You wanting to make sure your trailer is set up properly ie weight distribution and trailer brakes working properly. My last tug was in January 06 1250miles in 03 f150 pulling 9000pds running 70-75mpg from New Jersey to Iowa, truck rated @ 8000k...I was a Tech for many years and speeking with different engineers they state that the max towing weight of any vehicle is generally well understated because they dont want warranty claims...But most peoples trucks spend most of there time a people transporter not towing..And yes a 38 is to much for a 1000 mile journey. I currently have a 06 Mark LT rated at 9900pds towing and I would have no problem pulling 11000pds moderate distances..Sorry for rambling, just my .02....

Ok....my language has changed.....YOU are a total idiot....this is the problem with this place....your morons come on here and act like it is OK to do this....and there will be no issues....and to state the manufactures have everything under rated...pleeeeze it is the exact oppisite!...pleeeeze...you were a tech....yea ok!

gotime34 04-05-2006 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Byrdman
Ok....my language has changed.....YOU are a total idiot....this is the problem with this place....your morons come on here and act like it is OK to do this....and there will be no issues....and to state the manufactures have everything under rated...pleeeeze it is the exact oppisite!...pleeeeze...you were a tech....yea ok!

YES!! :evilb: :evilb: :evilb: :evilb:
I knew it was coming after that comment. :D :drink: :drink:

nolimits 04-05-2006 11:36 AM

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For my 38 Fountain, the Myco trailer is the steel one, tripple wheels with disc brakes triggered by surge. I keep hearing how these newer trailers tow so well. Looks like it will stop a train. My tow needs will be limited to 12 or less tripps a year. Most trips are under 5 miles with a few being 10 -15 miles. All local driving, 45 mph or less. The thought of driving an F350 diesel all year long for these needs seems over the top. I would hire someone to do it, but it's not convient. Poker runs and fun runs start and stop when they do. I don't want to be on someone else's schedule. Anyway, why doesn't a Tahoe which does 8500lbs or an F150 which does 9500 lbs work? I am not trying to be dense, I understand if I get into an accident I am at risk and I understand it's hard on the truck. I guess I am asking how hard is hard? Is the 4x4 going to blow pulling it up the ramp? Is it going to come around on me at 45 mph? The guy at the chevy and ford dealer thought I could get away with less. Thoughts????

Chris288 04-05-2006 12:22 PM

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Key words,,,, they think you could get away w/ less.. Those tow ratings you mention are under ALL the ideal conditions,,, correct hitch ( W.D), correct brakes ( trailer ), correct gearing ( truck) a f-150 w/ 3.55 gears and the factory class 3 hitch aint gonna do it...

I dont care what Ford says about the towing capacity of a F-150, I have one w/ a 5.4 and tow right around 7K it does o.k. struggles a bit on hills,,, I wouldn't ever consider towing anything heavier than what I got, nevermind something that weighs 2 or 3 k more... not even with a w.d. setup... it's just really foolish.................. :rolleyes: And all that B.S. about taking it easy, going slow and short distances are just that B.S.

BURNSMAZZ 04-05-2006 01:03 PM

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I don't think it is necessary to come on here and call someone a complete idiot,a moron or whatever.The guy gave his opinion and that is what it is.You can take his advice or you don't ,that is the purpose of the board.Opinions are like *******s we've all got them,but nobody knows everything.

nolimits 04-05-2006 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris288
Key words,,,, they think you could get away w/ less.. Those tow ratings you mention are under ALL the ideal conditions,,, correct hitch ( W.D), correct brakes ( trailer ), correct gearing ( truck) a f-150 w/ 3.55 gears and the factory class 3 hitch aint gonna do it...

I dont care what Ford says about the towing capacity of a F-150, I have one w/ a 5.4 and tow right around 7K it does o.k. struggles a bit on hills,,, I wouldn't ever consider towing anything heavier than what I got, nevermind something that weighs 2 or 3 k more... not even with a w.d. setup... it's just really foolish.................. :rolleyes: And all that B.S. about taking it easy, going slow and short distances are just that B.S.

I appreciate the opinion. It's hard for me to ever consider something less. I always jump to the thing that is more than up to the task. So I understand your points. Thanks.

Chris Sunkin 04-05-2006 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by klaw
well is Chris Sunkin going to comment on this?
Considering if you have fuel in the boat and on a steel trailer besides being way over the truck capacity I would be suspect of the hitch.

Yeah, I'm here.

You must be fuc&ing $hitting me- has it even been a week?

Chris Sunkin 04-05-2006 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JUKED YOU
see if one of your friends has an eldorado or a cherokee you can borrow.


As long as you're really careful and not going too far...

Chris Sunkin 04-05-2006 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by nolimits
I just upgraded to a 38 Fountain with a Myco Trailer (12,500 with fuel ). Had a 29 and used a Land Rover to pull it about. The Land Rover is 1 year into a 3 year lease. Now I got to "do something" else. The wife uses the Land Rover so it's got a use. Drove an F350 Diesel and have been looking at 2500 GM's. Seems it would be a real pain as a full time vehicle. You guys got any idea's?? 2007 Avalanch maybe??

A smaller boat or a dock.

articfriends 04-05-2006 04:04 PM

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If you do it you better baby it because most these f-150's have 4r70w transmissions and 355 gears. Alot of the transmission jobs I do are on vehicles like this that have been fine for 60 or 80 thousand miles. A guy decides to haul a bobcat on a new holland trailer once (10 or 12 thousand pounds) and trans goes up in smoke 500 miles later. I wouldn't do it,these new 1/2 tons don't seem to have "extra" capacity beyond there ratings like they did years ago. I had to tow my Baja 272 (about 7500lbs with trailer and fuel) with my buddies 01 1/2 ton silverado a few years ago for 300 miles and it felt like it was killing it,it spent as much time in 2nd gear as it did in 3rd at 70 mph. The fords seem the same with 3.55 gears,Smitty

Chris Sunkin 04-05-2006 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Byrdman
Ok....my language has changed.....YOU are a total idiot....this is the problem with this place....your morons come on here and act like it is OK to do this....and there will be no issues....and to state the manufactures have everything under rated...pleeeeze it is the exact oppisite!...pleeeeze...you were a tech....yea ok!

You're my kind of guy.

My advice to everyone who tows over-limit- please, for the sake of all humanity, take all your offspring with you when you do it. With any luck, you'll help remove this defective strain from the gene pool when the bow of your oversized monster boat pierces the cab of the K-car you're towing it with. To enjoy the full effect, please make sure to top off all your tanks- boat and tow vehicle.


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