I HAVE BOTH..both great depending what your trying to do. The Allison can handle appr.500 hp vs 600 for the Torquesift...proven on the diesel forums. Motors..I give the edge to the Duramax..I have 6 of each and its very close on reliability..with the miles being around the 160k mark on both. Power is slightly more on the GM truck but it also weighs appr 800lbs less..due to mainly less of an under carriage. The Ford dually out pulls my GMC dually way safer especially pulling my 43 NorTech when a semi goes on by. Corning is also better on the Ford. Comfort is slightly better for long hauls in the GMC. Price.. appr the same. GM gives you more creature comforts and buttons.. where Ford gives you more tech. stuff for hooking up a load like back up camera, better tow hooks..stuff like that. I like them both. Its unfortunate that they brake..

We are a RED, WHITE & BLUE Ford Family.

01 Excursion V10 WHITE
02 F350 Dually 7.3 PSD RED
07 F150 V8 BLUE

Well aren't you just so SPECIAL...

Doc,that back tire looks a little thin....Too many burn outs??

We went back and picked up a Lariat tonight, loving the truck so far....Anyone have any idea on what the changes are to the 2010 model? I was told there will be a newer better diesel version released next month.

from what Ive been rerading on these diesel forums, Ford is hush hush on this. I hear coming out 2nd quarter in 2010 for 2011 model year.. who the hell knows though... I only print what I read.

6.7L V8 is what I hear.

[QUOTE=105mph_38_2003;2922641]We went back and picked up a Lariat tonight, loving the truck so far....Anyone have any idea on what the changes are to the 2010 model? I was told there will be a newer better diesel version released next month



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2010 Super Duty® Pick-up (F250 / F350 / F450)

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MODEL/SERIES/AVAILABILITY CHANGES
• Cabela's has been added as a series
• FX4 series has been deleted

PACKAGES/OPTIONS CHANGES FUNCTIONAL/POWERTRAIN
• 5-Speed automatic transmission is now standard on:
— XL (F-350 DRW only)
— XLT (F-350 DRW only)
— Lariat
— Cabela's
• 6.4L Engine base 3.31 axle ratio replaces base 3.55 (see axle chart for restrictions)
• F350 DRW option (67W) Wide-track monobeam front suspension has been deleted (feature remains std. on F450)

INTERIOR
• 40/20/40 Leather seat now option on XLT (not including regular cab)
• Available SYNC® Voice-activated Communications and Entertainment System (911 assist, Vehicle Health Reports, traffic reports, GPS based turn by turn driving directions and information services)
Note: Traffic, Directions, Information Services receive a complimentary three year pre-paid subscription (one phone/primary account)
Note: When paired with Voice-activated Navigation System (58M), SYNC® Traffic, Directions and Information services are replaced by the vehicle's Navigation System and SIRIUS® Travel Link functionality
Note: Traffic, Directions, Information Services are subject to Late Availability

EXTERIOR
• New Exterior Paint Colors:
— Ingot Silver
— White Platinum Tri-Coat
— Black/Tuxedo Black Flames (premium two-tone available on Harley-Davidson™ only)
• New 17" Aluminum Wheel (64W)
• 20" Wheels and Tires only available with diesel engine
• 4" Chrome Tubular Cab Steps have been deleted
• Tough Bed (spray-in bedliner) (85S) is subject to late availability

PACKAGES
• Quad seats for both King Ranch and Harley have been deleted
• Harley-Davidson™ package is now a diesel only offering.
• "FX4" decal added to FX4 Off Road Package (17X)
• The following packages have been deleted:
— FX4 Plus Package
— FX4 Luxury Package
— FX4 Luxury with Chrome Package
— Stabilizer Package
• XLT Leather Value Discount Package consists of the following content:
— Leather Seating Surfaces 40/20/40 Split Bench (8C/8S)
— XLT Convenience Pkg (96C)
— PowerScope TT Mirrors (54F)

LATEST UPDATES
• Tough Bed (spray-in bed liner) (85S) is subject to late availability
• Cabela's with 5.4L/5-Spd Auto. will now receive a 3.73 limited slip axle as standard
• F-250/F350 SRW with 6.4L/6-Spd Man. will now receive a 3.55 non-limited slip axle as standard
• F-250/F350 SRW (XLT & Lariat) with 6.4L/5-Spd Auto. will now receive a 3.55 non-limited slip axle as standard
• 6.4L OHV Power Stroke® Diesel V8/6-Spd Man. (99R/447) is no longer optional on XL F-350 DRW
• White Platinum Metallic Tri-Coat (UG) no longer requires Tough Bed (85S)
• Wheel and Tire standard descriptions have been updated.
• XLT Leather 40/20/40 Seating (8C/8S) requires XLT Convenience Pkg (96C) and PowerScope TT Mirror (54F

[QUOTE=customryder;2922770]
I see this feature has been deleted..that sucks..I have that on my 08..what a difference in turning radius as well as towing keeping the front end stabalized.

was talking to a guy this weekend who claims to know alot and said that Ford is working with VOLVO on the next generation diesel motor for F-series trucks. Called the "Scorpion"

Now if they can let Volvo make it and not Ford, it will be a good motor. If Ford gets their fingers into the mix like the 6.0, who knows.

American car mfgrs can't make a diesel. That's why GM let Isuzu build the Duramax and Chrysler buys their diesel from Cummins.