Need new 1/2 ton, which one ?
05-26-2011 | 08:35 PM
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Tonight I drove an 08 tundra crew and an 2011 hemi crew Ram, The tundra stopped better and felt more like a truck, the ram rode nicer, power felt about equal. What is totally screwy is Dodge's tow ratings, hemi with to hitch 5K, hemi with tow package 8,900, they are all over the place regarding their tow ratings, enough to give you a head ache. with 380 plus hp on the two trucks I think it has come down to either of those 2, the silverado with 315 hp and the 5.4 ford I think are underpowered.
I'd still go w/ a gas 3/4 ton for towing a 28+ boat.
05-26-2011 | 09:25 PM
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I was a Chevy/GM guy for 30 years until I got my 1st SuperCrew F-150 in '02...180K miles later with NO PROBLEMS I traded for a '07 SuperCrew KR 4 x 4 with the 9200# tow package. I drive 20K miles a year and tow my 255 Formula Liberator ...8000# on the trailer with a full fuel,water and gear load. I have the 5.4 with 3:73 limited slip. I get 16 MPG over all City/Hwy and 12 whe I tow the boat.
I thought my next truck would be a F-250/350 diesel or the GM Duramax/Allison...until I drove the Eco Boost F-150.
This is the biggest paradigm shift in the light truck business in 25 years...365 HP/420 ft. lbs tq....23 MPG...can't touch it.
The fastest stock gasoline pickup I have driven (not including a Ford Lightning SC) was the Toyota Tundra with the big V8...until I drove the Eco Boost. A neighbor is a sales rep at a local Ford dealer here. We took a new demo Eco Boost 2 wd and ran a 1/4 and 1/2 mile drag race adainst a 2010 Toyota Tundra optional big V8. The Ford jumped out 2 full lenths and grew to 4 lengths in a 1/4...6 lengths at the 1/2.
I would not have believed this if I had not seen it.
I want to tow test one but all of the test I have read puts the Eco Boost ahead of all of the 1/2 tons on the market plus it beats them all...including the 5.4 Ford by 8 MPG in the gas mileage test.
Test drive one of these before you buy...you owe it to yourself.
I thought my next truck would be a F-250/350 diesel or the GM Duramax/Allison...until I drove the Eco Boost F-150.
This is the biggest paradigm shift in the light truck business in 25 years...365 HP/420 ft. lbs tq....23 MPG...can't touch it.
The fastest stock gasoline pickup I have driven (not including a Ford Lightning SC) was the Toyota Tundra with the big V8...until I drove the Eco Boost. A neighbor is a sales rep at a local Ford dealer here. We took a new demo Eco Boost 2 wd and ran a 1/4 and 1/2 mile drag race adainst a 2010 Toyota Tundra optional big V8. The Ford jumped out 2 full lenths and grew to 4 lengths in a 1/4...6 lengths at the 1/2.
I would not have believed this if I had not seen it.
I want to tow test one but all of the test I have read puts the Eco Boost ahead of all of the 1/2 tons on the market plus it beats them all...including the 5.4 Ford by 8 MPG in the gas mileage test.
Test drive one of these before you buy...you owe it to yourself.
To be transparent - you wont get 23 from a 4x4 3:73 Super crew. More like 15-19.
The short box single cab 4X2 3:14 rear end is the "23 MPG" version.
UD
05-26-2011 | 10:11 PM
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Here are the numbers...
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/01/07/2...ty-22-highway/
For towing we need TORQUE and we need it quick...look at the Eco Boost Torque RPM...2500 and it gets 90% of it at 1750 RPM.
This tells the story....if you are looking for the best in class towing, torque, and fuel economy...it's a no-brainer.
I wonder how long before we get a Marine version of this engine? With that torque curve it becomes very attractive.
For towing we need TORQUE and we need it quick...look at the Eco Boost Torque RPM...2500 and it gets 90% of it at 1750 RPM.
This tells the story....if you are looking for the best in class towing, torque, and fuel economy...it's a no-brainer.
I wonder how long before we get a Marine version of this engine? With that torque curve it becomes very attractive.
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05-26-2011 | 10:24 PM
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05-27-2011 | 12:46 AM
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Least Dodge finally stepped up with a nice interior compared to the junk before. Quicksilver
Man you are not joking. That Laramie Edition is awesome inside! I drove a 2011 Laramie dually and the interior fit finish and ride of that truck put my 06 to shame. I think you can get a Hemi 1500 Laramie for $36-38k, best bargain for sure.
How much is that leather Eco-Boost, 45-50?
Man you are not joking. That Laramie Edition is awesome inside! I drove a 2011 Laramie dually and the interior fit finish and ride of that truck put my 06 to shame. I think you can get a Hemi 1500 Laramie for $36-38k, best bargain for sure.
How much is that leather Eco-Boost, 45-50?
05-27-2011 | 06:17 AM
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correct..my landscaper has the eco boost.. 3.73 gears I believe..and is getting 17-18.25 as an average, mostly city and little highway.. He traded his 7.3 diesel in for it..and loves how torqy these motors are. He pulls his 26' 8k trailer with it and averages 13-14...and he's a little heavy in the foot. Jeff
05-27-2011 | 07:29 AM
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ECO boost is impressive, but i just priced out one and I dont know. I priced out a well equipped model XLT nothing fancy, extended cab 4WD, 3.73 gears, and it was 37,500 same model in a F250 with gas engine was 37,800 and with diesel it was 44,000. If you are a casual tower and smaller boat I would say yeah F150 but anything above 26-27ft and doing it alot no way. Diesel cost a little more right now but the difference in towing 7000lbs witha diesel and a F150 is night and day
05-27-2011 | 07:46 AM
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ECO boost is impressive, but i just priced out one and I dont know. I priced out a well equipped model XLT nothing fancy, extended cab 4WD, 3.73 gears, and it was 37,500 same model in a F250 with gas engine was 37,800 and with diesel it was 44,000. If you are a casual tower and smaller boat I would say yeah F150 but anything above 26-27ft and doing it alot no way. Diesel cost a little more right now but the difference in towing 7000lbs witha diesel and a F150 is night and day
