Why is that? Because I post factual stuff and you disregard it?
Even after I posted a link to a direct lookup for a 2017 Expedition rear calipers and after I posted a pic of them.
Are you still saying they are "fantasy" calipers? Your term.
I have come to a conclusion that this is the Ailment you suffer from!

I literally just spit my coffee out!!! That also reminded me of this:

It`s a waste of time trying to talk common sense , this guys knows best and it`s all fine.
Hopefully he doesn`t kill anyone with that stupid a$$ unsafe set up.

yes, as a engineer I always like to see the little explanations, like the one here that it HAS to have max tow package to meet the higher rating,,,,, and the one that everything in the vehicle needs to count. I know when I unloaded my boat to do work to it I am more than surprised about the amount of stuff the wife puts into it, and ts not a cruiser.

Don't forget the **** in the truck and its fuel also either way you will tow it with that combo. I know only 7 miles to ramp, how far is it when you tow the other load?

Do not get me wrong, I am a big to each his own, till "your own" affects my or others lives. I have a much different take on that one.

This is like the idiots arguing over the need to strap the boat to the trailer.

Your unstrapped boat rolls off your trailer onto my wife’s car w/the grandkids in back...., the law is the last of your worries dumb ass.

It's funny when the safety patrol shows up. It wouldn't matter if I had a notarized weight ticket from certified scales and three real engineers explaining the Expy braking and tow system and how trailer brakes operate. Some folks are going to believe whatever they want no matter the proof put in front of them. Reminds me a certain political group with TTS. Rage on...

[QUOTE=HawkX66;4776203]I get that you two aren't the brightest bulbs on the Christmas tree and that you're grasping at whatever you can to save face, but would you at least try to use some factual info that pertains to my rig? The 99 Sundancer is a different boat in a lot of ways. ie., the beam is 5" wider. Mine is an early 97. Here are some guys, other than me, talking about weight. So, you can go start an argument with them too about their boat and trailer combo weight lol As far as staying right and 55, apparently Cheech has problems with reading comprehension and making assumptions also. I drive 7 miles to the boat ramp. No highways...
Here is the 97 brochure as well as other guys with MY boat talking about the scales... 95-early 97 are the same. 9,920 with the same set up as me on an aluminum trailer and 11,120 with a 92 on a steel trailer.
9,920 lbs with the 400 lb genset. I know it's a lot of math for you, but get some help to walk you through it. This means mine is 9,520 lbs. Woah... 320 lbs overweight. Call the DOT!!!

Uh oh, someone brought facts...


So right here you admitted that you are overweight. That is WITHOUT factoring in that your boat holds 780lbs of fuel, 2 anchors, 2 batteries, a cooler full of beer, fresh water in the tank, 💩 in the tank, and any other miscellaneous items. By admitting you are overweight, you admit that all your comments about how great the Expedition is are not applicable your boat. The point of everyone’s comments that are slightly harsh is that you are breaking the law and if you are involved in a wreck, even if it wasn’t caused by you, a lawyer is going to get you for everything you have. You should take the advise given, people on this site tend to error on the side of caution.

[QUOTE=ttuton;4776375]I've never claimed I wasn't overweight. It was the amount that I disagreed with. You have one guy trying to tell me that my boat alone weighs 15k lbs. I proved via other owners weighing the same boat and trailer set ups that my boat with 1/4 tank of fuel is at 10k or slightly less. His had a 400 lb genset and mine does not. You're assuming also that his wasn't set up to go boating by saying I haven't factored in fuel, water, beer etc. I said my tow rating is 9,200 which some apparently are still arguing with me about. They're quite comical actually. I defined what GVWR is after someone incorrectly mentioned what it is and how it's calculated. My argument has been and is that there is nothing actually unsafe about my set-up. If you go back to the beginning I haven't argued the legalities of it. I'm also not saying this is a set-up everyone should be running.

So you are overloaded and in a vehicle that has a wheelbase that is 2’-5” shorter than a crewcab short bed. How is that not unsafe?

100% empty boat at factory= 8500+2500trailer+800 fuel+ 800 in gear, water =12,600# , so with your figures your trailer weight is 500# ? please let me know the manufacturer, that`s fantastic!

Factory weight:
1986 38
Cigarette
38'STERNFG2400
9500 LBS


Reality :




Factory:
POWER BOATS Length Model Type HP Weight (lbs)
302 31' STERN 415 6800
33 OUTLAW 33' STERN 415
7500LBS
Reality :
12,500 per CAT scale, not I`m going to guess game

Come back with a CAT scale that says under 10K and I`ll send you $100.
Fact is you`re not a little over your tow rating , you`re a F uck load over your tow rating and that little suv with those baby brakes has no business towing it , how many people do you need to tell you that?
Please go on any truck or towing forum and tell them the same story you`ll be laughed out . Noone is going to say that is okay except you .End of story.




and that excursion with short wheelbase suckd to tow with.