Surge Brakes to EOH Conversion
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Care to explain? Genuine curiosity. Being from a (formerly) GM town, I've literally watched GMC and Chevys roll off the same assembly line. They have the exact same components, from end to end, given options variations, except for cosmetics and badging. What differences are you referring to?
Thanks. Brad.
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GM is GM. Chevy is GMC and GMC is Chevy? Chevy and GMC trucks used the same exact components end to end? I was into my third page disputing your comments going back decades. But I actually started to break out laughing because NO would spend this amount of time on this subject. Does GM interchange parts with many of their models, Yes. ALL manufacturers do to a certain extent. It's your characterization that's the problem. Anyone believing your statement is bordering the obscure and no matter how many facts brought forth wouldn't be believed by them. Every question you've asked and every problem you've had that I saw (there's been quite a few) I've tried to help.
But this thread isn't about Chevy/GMC. It's about electric over hydraulic brakes. You questioned hydrastar because a person on another site, The Hull Truth, complaining about Hydrostar. “Just not impressed with the stopping power,” he said. Notice he didn't mention anything about the condition of his brake pads, rotors, calipers, brake pins, how he bled the system or tire condition. Maybe his was just an imbecile. And right here in this thread somebody complained about Dexter. When a company sells a lot of product. Some will brake. It's how a company responds to the problem that matters.
I must have called Hydrastar 5 times with different questions before I bought theirs. I felt comfortable talking with them. Took a lot of their time to. Never felt rushed. One question I was worried about was their fill cap sucking in humidity or rain because it's exposed. They told me that their actuator is in a aquarium in there front office People come in and turn it on and off.
I wish you well.
But this thread isn't about Chevy/GMC. It's about electric over hydraulic brakes. You questioned hydrastar because a person on another site, The Hull Truth, complaining about Hydrostar. “Just not impressed with the stopping power,” he said. Notice he didn't mention anything about the condition of his brake pads, rotors, calipers, brake pins, how he bled the system or tire condition. Maybe his was just an imbecile. And right here in this thread somebody complained about Dexter. When a company sells a lot of product. Some will brake. It's how a company responds to the problem that matters.
I must have called Hydrastar 5 times with different questions before I bought theirs. I felt comfortable talking with them. Took a lot of their time to. Never felt rushed. One question I was worried about was their fill cap sucking in humidity or rain because it's exposed. They told me that their actuator is in a aquarium in there front office People come in and turn it on and off.
I wish you well.
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That video and calling them is why I went with Hydrostar. I am now on my second trailer with the same unit, if I want I can set it to lock the brakes up pretty easy.
Didn't read the rest of the tread, I do know because of issues some would have with factory controllers ( I have had it on 2 Chevy, 2 Ford factory one Toyota and a aftermarket, no issues with any), they give the module that corrects it in every kit.
On my old steel trailer I removed the surge and bolted it, using spacers where the master cylinder was and HUGE grade 8 bolts. Worked good for hundreds of miles till the salt finally killed the trailer. It was a Myco BTW.
Didn't read the rest of the tread, I do know because of issues some would have with factory controllers ( I have had it on 2 Chevy, 2 Ford factory one Toyota and a aftermarket, no issues with any), they give the module that corrects it in every kit.
On my old steel trailer I removed the surge and bolted it, using spacers where the master cylinder was and HUGE grade 8 bolts. Worked good for hundreds of miles till the salt finally killed the trailer. It was a Myco BTW.
GM is GM. Chevy is GMC and GMC is Chevy? Chevy and GMC trucks used the same exact components end to end? I was into my third page disputing your comments going back decades. But I actually started to break out laughing because NO would spend this amount of time on this subject. Does GM interchange parts with many of their models, Yes. ALL manufacturers do to a certain extent. It's your characterization that's the problem. Anyone believing your statement is bordering the obscure and no matter how many facts brought forth wouldn't be believed by them. Every question you've asked and every problem you've had that I saw (there's been quite a few) I've tried to help.
But this thread isn't about Chevy/GMC. It's about electric over hydraulic brakes. You questioned hydrastar because a person on another site, The Hull Truth, complaining about Hydrostar. “Just not impressed with the stopping power,” he said. Notice he didn't mention anything about the condition of his brake pads, rotors, calipers, brake pins, how he bled the system or tire condition. Maybe his was just an imbecile. And right here in this thread somebody complained about Dexter. When a company sells a lot of product. Some will brake. It's how a company responds to the problem that matters.
I must have called Hydrastar 5 times with different questions before I bought theirs. I felt comfortable talking with them. Took a lot of their time to. Never felt rushed. One question I was worried about was their fill cap sucking in humidity or rain because it's exposed. They told me that their actuator is in a aquarium in there front office People come in and turn it on and off.
I wish you well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtpxwER0qnI
But this thread isn't about Chevy/GMC. It's about electric over hydraulic brakes. You questioned hydrastar because a person on another site, The Hull Truth, complaining about Hydrostar. “Just not impressed with the stopping power,” he said. Notice he didn't mention anything about the condition of his brake pads, rotors, calipers, brake pins, how he bled the system or tire condition. Maybe his was just an imbecile. And right here in this thread somebody complained about Dexter. When a company sells a lot of product. Some will brake. It's how a company responds to the problem that matters.
I must have called Hydrastar 5 times with different questions before I bought theirs. I felt comfortable talking with them. Took a lot of their time to. Never felt rushed. One question I was worried about was their fill cap sucking in humidity or rain because it's exposed. They told me that their actuator is in a aquarium in there front office People come in and turn it on and off.
I wish you well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtpxwER0qnI
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GM is GM. Chevy is GMC and GMC is Chevy? Chevy and GMC trucks used the same exact components end to end? I was into my third page disputing your comments going back decades. But I actually started to break out laughing because NO would spend this amount of time on this subject. Does GM interchange parts with many of their models, Yes. ALL manufacturers do to a certain extent. It's your characterization that's the problem. Anyone believing your statement is bordering the obscure and no matter how many facts brought forth wouldn't be believed by them. Every question you've asked and every problem you've had that I saw (there's been quite a few) I've tried to help.
But this thread isn't about Chevy/GMC. It's about electric over hydraulic brakes. You questioned hydrastar because a person on another site, The Hull Truth, complaining about Hydrostar. “Just not impressed with the stopping power,” he said. Notice he didn't mention anything about the condition of his brake pads, rotors, calipers, brake pins, how he bled the system or tire condition. Maybe his was just an imbecile. And right here in this thread somebody complained about Dexter. When a company sells a lot of product. Some will brake. It's how a company responds to the problem that matters.
I must have called Hydrastar 5 times with different questions before I bought theirs. I felt comfortable talking with them. Took a lot of their time to. Never felt rushed. One question I was worried about was their fill cap sucking in humidity or rain because it's exposed. They told me that their actuator is in a aquarium in there front office People come in and turn it on and off.
I wish you well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtpxwER0qnI
But this thread isn't about Chevy/GMC. It's about electric over hydraulic brakes. You questioned hydrastar because a person on another site, The Hull Truth, complaining about Hydrostar. “Just not impressed with the stopping power,” he said. Notice he didn't mention anything about the condition of his brake pads, rotors, calipers, brake pins, how he bled the system or tire condition. Maybe his was just an imbecile. And right here in this thread somebody complained about Dexter. When a company sells a lot of product. Some will brake. It's how a company responds to the problem that matters.
I must have called Hydrastar 5 times with different questions before I bought theirs. I felt comfortable talking with them. Took a lot of their time to. Never felt rushed. One question I was worried about was their fill cap sucking in humidity or rain because it's exposed. They told me that their actuator is in a aquarium in there front office People come in and turn it on and off.
I wish you well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtpxwER0qnI
Whoa, whoa…. Hang on a sec…. I’m not arguing with you in the least. I’m definitely the student here. I just asked for a clarification. As with most threads I contribute to, and more so those I start, I am in here for discovery. Truthfully, the GMC/Chevy confusion was pretty well cleared up with the OP’s correction indicating a vast difference in model years between the Chevy and the GMC. I was just curious where your take came from. All good.
Honestly, I’ve been leaning HydroStar from the start. Additionally, I will definitely take advice from OSO over THT, and only referenced the THT thread for context and to maybe seek some elaboration on where the opinions therein may have come from. Obviously, there are a ton of variables, the wherewithal of the commenter included, that can lead to a less-than-ideal review. Dan’s experience has essentially sealed the deal for me. The overall consensus is that the HydroStar unit is the way to go.
For the record, I always appreciate the guidance.
Thanks. Brad.
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I do not think you are far from them being in SW Ohio
Dave,
Whoa, whoa…. Hang on a sec…. I’m not arguing with you in the least. I’m definitely the student here. I just asked for a clarification. As with most threads I contribute to, and more so those I start, I am in here for discovery. Truthfully, the GMC/Chevy confusion was pretty well cleared up with the OP’s correction indicating a vast difference in model years between the Chevy and the GMC. I was just curious where your take came from. All good.
Honestly, I’ve been leaning HydroStar from the start. Additionally, I will definitely take advice from OSO over THT, and only referenced the THT thread for context and to maybe seek some elaboration on where the opinions therein may have come from. Obviously, there are a ton of variables, the wherewithal of the commenter included, that can lead to a less-than-ideal review. Dan’s experience has essentially sealed the deal for me. The overall consensus is that the HydroStar unit is the way to go.
For the record, I always appreciate the guidance.
Thanks. Brad.
Whoa, whoa…. Hang on a sec…. I’m not arguing with you in the least. I’m definitely the student here. I just asked for a clarification. As with most threads I contribute to, and more so those I start, I am in here for discovery. Truthfully, the GMC/Chevy confusion was pretty well cleared up with the OP’s correction indicating a vast difference in model years between the Chevy and the GMC. I was just curious where your take came from. All good.
Honestly, I’ve been leaning HydroStar from the start. Additionally, I will definitely take advice from OSO over THT, and only referenced the THT thread for context and to maybe seek some elaboration on where the opinions therein may have come from. Obviously, there are a ton of variables, the wherewithal of the commenter included, that can lead to a less-than-ideal review. Dan’s experience has essentially sealed the deal for me. The overall consensus is that the HydroStar unit is the way to go.
For the record, I always appreciate the guidance.
Thanks. Brad.



