It's all relative, too much weigh is dead weigh in the water.Its like a powerlifter, one weighs 180 pounds and lifts 300 pounds, another weighs 300 pounds and lifts 300 pounds.A good rough water boat is a fine balance between weigh/size/power without getting into the technical side of V's. Besides why would it need glass work if it wasn't for weight,someone that tested this boat told me the biggest down side to the boat was weight.

The boat is de-rigged at O L yes or no. And yes I am a big liar and more but not this time. JUNK BOAT. JORGE.

WAZZUP WANNA BE APACHE. WEAK WRISTS? A REAL POS. JUST LIKE THE BOAT. :evilb: J

TRUTH HURTS CRYBABY? WHERE IS THE COLD WAR BOAT? OL? JORGE.

If the customer didn't wan't a heavy boat, then why did he order a triple engine 50ft Apache, cabin and all?

didnt know any better, just my guess. more $s then sense.

Omar
The owner can do as he pleases, it's his boat. But, I don't think OL is the right choice to cut glass out of an Apache nor is Apache the right choice to modify an OL. It is my guess that would void any manufacturers warrenty on the powerboat. What did the boat weigh? It is a pleasureboat, with a light tower, bustle and god knows what else. I know they are heavier than a raceboat, and perform accordingly. If he wanted a Raceboat with a light layup then that's what he should have ordered.
Ed

MY LAST BOAT. BOUGHT IT RUNNING SOLD IT RUNNING. NOT JUST A BUNCH OF JUNK AND A STORY OF HOW ITS GONNA RUN. A 38 CIG FLATDECK. ADIOS.

So, is the boat at Outerlimits having work done on it?

Roger
I honestly don't know. How are you coming along with the Cigarette?
Ed

Slowly, little by little. Economy has hit hard here and have had a bit of a rough winter as well. Keepin' on keepin' on though.:ernaehrung004:

I'm sure when it's finished it will be Top Shelf. I've seen some of your work and it is the highest quality.
Ed

Thanks Ed.

right on. has done several jobs for me second to none.

Thanks Mark!

The boat is up here at the Outerlimits Factory. Having what done im not sure.

REALLY. WHO SPEAKS WITH FORKED TONGUE? DOES IT HAVE DRIVES HANGING OFF THE BACK OR HOLES? HEY COMANCHE 36 HOW LIKE ME NOW. JEEBS.

No response, that's got to be CashBrain

Ed,,,who is cashbrain ???

I AM THE GAY DRUGGIE WHO TOLD YOU "THAT POS APACHE WAS AT OL". WHAT ARE U SMOKING THAT EFFECTS YOUR SHORT TERM MEMORY. JORGE. MIAMI FL.

now thats funny. who cares what boat is where.either way it does not put any porkchops on my plate. lets all meet at braccos and have some clams. mm.

I mean come on, its hard to take anyone seriously that writes stuff like that on a message board online...

The boat is at OL, thats a fact. Of course if there is an issue with the boat, it must be due to the owner who didnt know better; not the builder. Right?

:rolleyes:

I think a happy hour of sorts with Apache fans and owners would be an entertaining panel. Ill buy first round, I am sure there will be no lulls in conversation... :drink:

Whatever the owner wants I'm sure OL will charge him for. Maybe he is getting a new granite Vodka bar installed complete with stripper poles. Just to lighten it up.
LOL!

I think every go fast boat needs a vodka bar and stripper poles! :drink:

Scott
I missed this post. Cashbrain was a negative gadfly like BigFeather that constantly slandered offshore powerboat companies and OSO powerboaters alike. Probably because they have nothing and are worthless sub humans, with no desire to elevate themselves in a positive manner. Just scumbags.
Ed

OH,,,ok. I just thought u had a personal misunderstanding with who ever he is ??!! LOL

But that explains it all !!:ernaehrung004:


Carry on !:drink:

No need to bash the boat....I've spoken with those that have actually run this thing and there is nothing wrong with it. Sounds like someone got into the ear of the owner and talked him into buying an OL. The Apache is only being de-rigged, not "worked on".

Purpose built to owners specs. 18k lbs at 120 through 6 foot seas isn't anything to scoff at. Those that have actually run this boat don't have anything negative to say about it. Those that work for or own other companies do...Go figure.

Like I said before, not my favorite Apache. But still a bad mo-fo. I'm sure when OL is done de-rigging it, someone will be able to pick it up for a great price, take that hideous radar arch off, lower the fairing and cut off the "euro" style swim step and someone will have one of the baddest Apaches out there! Just my .02:drink:

Thanks Tank
Ed

SURE. WHAT ABOUT THE LAWSUIT? THE OWNER WAS SO HAPPY HE NEEDED PLASTIC SURGERY TO REMOVE THE SMILE FROM HIS FACE. j.:rolleyes:

Talk about worthless....yeow !!!

That was funny.

Apache is still my favorite boat of all time always has been.

Lawsuit over the boat going past it's due date? Why not instead of insulting others and playing games you just state what you know? If you have a reason to bash the boat and/or those that worked on it at least state the facts behind your insults, or vailed insults.

After reading all the BS on this thread I went directly to an un-biased source (who knows the boat well) to find the facts. The facts are as stated in my post.

Did your boy Zelenov (owner of the boat) get injured some how? I don't see how its the boats fault if someone gets injured running it wrong.

You're welcome to your opinion, I'm just curious as to the reason behind it. And by the way, I never insulted you or insinuated an insult, I'd appreciate the same respect.

[QUOTE=PURPLE HORNET;2864082]Apache is still my favorite boat of all time always has been.[/QUOT



COOL. YOU TOO CAN HANG OUT AT THE BATHHOUSE. YOU MIGHT WANT TO CLEAR IT WITH ED AND TANK FIRST. JORGIE.

[QUOTE=Bigfeather;2864092]Dude, what's your problem? You may be able to hide behind a key board with your silly games, but you should still watch who you're talking to boy. Not that difficult to find who you truely are. IP addresses are easy enough to come by.

Yet in the end, your foolishness bores me. Can't say it's been enjoyable reading your drivel. Have fun being banned.

Tank,,i think its one of those that have a sail boat ,,,and just bash because they did not get enough fun in live ,,,as soon as they realize that they'r not getting it this way either,,its to late for them .


For the sailboat owner :


OH,,and by the way if u want me in the bathhouse too,,,the soap will be dropped for you to bend over and u better not turn around or i puke on u as well !!!!:evilb:

So is 120 the absolute top speed or just what it can run in 6 footers?

Tank

I don't understand. Is the boat beeing de-rigged in preparation for some modifications/changes or is it beeing stripped of its parts for use on an other boat?

Roger

THEY R PLAYING MUSICAL MOTORS. WHEN THE MUSIC STOPS THE MOTORS STAY WHERE THEY ARE.:drink:

That's all good and well but eventually, somebody gets stuck with a turd and gets their feelings hurt.:mad: