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10-20-2014 | 02:48 PM
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From: Taunton Ma
Most surveyors, I'm guessing this one included look at cabin cruisers and sail boats mostly, so a fair to us go fast is exceptional compared to a similar year cabin cruiser that is acceptable. I am making this judgment based on the fact it says the power steering was not functional and they still went for a sea trial.
10-20-2014 | 02:50 PM
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I don't need 100 pages of bashing the engine builder that did them, nobody ever even heard of the guy and he's in the mountains of wv I don't think it's an issue....my buddy was told about him and got fukked so I am doing my own engines no big deal.
Besides the builder is not on here going "hey I'm gonna show you all my best work!!!" And he was not MY engine builder he was Dave's ...
My boat has a very good survey from 2009, was not in water again till I got it in 2012. So that's that.
As far as the other guys, they know the work is horrible but would never post it... Simple as that
Besides the builder is not on here going "hey I'm gonna show you all my best work!!!" And he was not MY engine builder he was Dave's ...
My boat has a very good survey from 2009, was not in water again till I got it in 2012. So that's that.
As far as the other guys, they know the work is horrible but would never post it... Simple as that
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10-20-2014 | 02:52 PM
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From: On A Dirt Floor
RickG - it's not as much abouth the boat, it's the Big Head "I Fully Restored It" , "I'm so good at what I do I've Opened My Own Boat Restoration Shop" and he made no gains on the old boat he bought, in fact he went backward.
No one ragged on the old owner and boat, just the current owner/boat.
Kinda like the kid with a ratty 5.0 Mustang who puts Flowmasters on and talks up the whole town/area about him having the fastest car around.
Not cool.
No one ragged on the old owner and boat, just the current owner/boat.
Kinda like the kid with a ratty 5.0 Mustang who puts Flowmasters on and talks up the whole town/area about him having the fastest car around.
Not cool.
10-20-2014 | 02:57 PM
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From: Olmsted Falls,Ohio Marblehead,Oh
Exactly, all I did was point out his flaws after he said he was gonna show us, I don't see the problem here.
10-20-2014 | 03:06 PM
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The Kid just keeps coming back for more that's what keeps this thread going. He is like that mouthy height challenged kid in middle school that finally pisses someone off enough that they clock him and knock him to the ground and all the people go why you beating up on the little guy? And the little guy gets up and goes right back running his mouth again.
So you walk away but he chases you down the hallway telling you you sister is a Whore and your Momma is Fat . So you hit em again because you just can;t help it
So you walk away but he chases you down the hallway telling you you sister is a Whore and your Momma is Fat . So you hit em again because you just can;t help it
10-20-2014 | 03:11 PM
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The Kid just keeps coming back for more that's what keeps this thread going. He is like that mouthy height challenged kid in middle school that finally pisses someone off enough that they clock him and knock him to the ground and all the people go why you beating up on the little guy? And the little guy gets up and goes right back running his mouth again.
So you walk away but he chases you down the hallway telling you you sister is a Whore and your Momma is Fat . So you hit em again because you just can;t help it
So you walk away but he chases you down the hallway telling you you sister is a Whore and your Momma is Fat . So you hit em again because you just can;t help it
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10-20-2014 | 03:19 PM
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I think the Whole Restore and that Upstate is actually a real boat shop is the real clincher in the claims that could
A.Mislead someone to drive cross country to see this thing.
B. Lure some very very naive person in the boating world that only see's pretty red paint and hears the engines go VROOM VROOM and assumes because it was fully restored at a professional boat shop that the fuel tank and rigging is all up to the safe use that is required of it.
And to FULL FORCE I apologize for going VROOM VROOM because I know that makes your heart sigh for the days of old and did not use it too intentionally hurt you but simply to get my point across from here on out I will do my best to not do it
VROOM VROOM VROOOM VROOOOOOOM:evil b:
A.Mislead someone to drive cross country to see this thing.
B. Lure some very very naive person in the boating world that only see's pretty red paint and hears the engines go VROOM VROOM and assumes because it was fully restored at a professional boat shop that the fuel tank and rigging is all up to the safe use that is required of it.
And to FULL FORCE I apologize for going VROOM VROOM because I know that makes your heart sigh for the days of old and did not use it too intentionally hurt you but simply to get my point across from here on out I will do my best to not do it
VROOM VROOM VROOOM VROOOOOOOM
:evil b:
10-20-2014 | 03:24 PM
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From: Olmsted Falls,Ohio Marblehead,Oh
Lol
10-20-2014 | 03:30 PM
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So whats the scoop on the tickets for no chains and lights. Who did Phragle get that info from?
10-20-2014 | 06:20 PM
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Interceptor , ICEDPPL posted the survey on the boat and certain people on this thread have gone out of there way to bash this kid . I dont know this kid and really dont care about him but if you have read the survey , accordingly it surveyed as an exceptional boat for its age . So my question is this . If the experienced surveyor tells the purchaser that the hull , drives and motors are in above average conition how is a potiently bad paint job considered the screw job of a life time( and at $ 30,000 priced at market for what it is ). It seems certain peoples opinions way more heavily than seasoned marine surveyors . If fact one of the nay sayers motors were so badly built they grendaed to point he said he would have to spend $ 10,000 to right the problem but not even one mention of this supposedly dead beat engine builder, some one we should all be warned about . I think its time to move on , I know I will be wary about posting any of my future projects in this site , really just wouldn't want the bull**** .God forbid I decided to sell my boat in the future and have to deal with these experts and their opinions.
RG.
RG.
Rick,
My opinion on the boat is based on a significant amount of deception the seller is using. The boat is described by him as "Turn key" and "Restored". In both cases I'll disagree as there are a significant number of things wrong with the boat that suggest the seller isn't being truthful. He probably has seen the error in his marketing since he has lowered his asking price from 47K to 35k to 30K. I recently posted some pictures of his work from his Twitter account. Those pictures represent some questionable processes for a boat that again is marketed as "Restored" and "Turn key". Regarding the survey, I've never seen the complete survey and do not know who comissioned it. If I were looking at this boat another survey with me attending would be mandatory. I have never called the seller a name or slandered him.
Regarding your boat and workmanship. I think it is very well done.
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