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division1 01-05-2023 07:38 PM

We’ll back to the topgun. Coming down the home stretch all the logos are on the boat. They made some really nice hatch alignment things that when it closes it won’t shift or move when your running it’s transom painted rear of boat ready should be final color tomorrow. Then there going to move it to rig shop for cleats/rubrail/and hatches. It’s almost time to pick it up and start the final portion.. very excited

bigboat28 01-06-2023 08:11 AM

Who is doing the work?

Full Force 01-06-2023 11:57 AM

Eric is lol

division1 01-06-2023 08:48 PM

I’m doing all the rigging and wiring and stuff only thing I didn’t do on the project was the paint. I did all the prep and primer then drive it 15 hours to a experienced paint shop (I didn’t want the that to be my first paint job. While I have learned a ton on this 4 year adventure the paint it whAt you see. I have researched all 3 types of resins I have learned about primer I have learned how to glass and build things it’s been a hole lot of fun. I have spent the last few weeks cleaning the shop buffing the floor gettiNg ready for it to return to a clean area. It will be fun to see the final stages come together. It was also fun to go there the design process of picking colors shooting colors on board tweaking them a bit looking at logos and picking out the perfect design to represent the 38 topgun. We made license plate cover we made cups and Hoodies as well.

bigboat28 01-07-2023 03:01 PM

Very nice

thisistank 01-07-2023 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by division1 (Post 4855130)
I’m doing all the rigging and wiring and stuff only thing I didn’t do on the project was the paint. I did all the prep and primer then drive it 15 hours to a experienced paint shop (I didn’t want the that to be my first paint job. While I have learned a ton on this 4 year adventure the paint it whAt you see. I have researched all 3 types of resins I have learned about primer I have learned how to glass and build things it’s been a hole lot of fun. I have spent the last few weeks cleaning the shop buffing the floor gettiNg ready for it to return to a clean area. It will be fun to see the final stages come together. It was also fun to go there the design process of picking colors shooting colors on board tweaking them a bit looking at logos and picking out the perfect design to represent the 38 topgun. We made license plate cover we made cups and Hoodies as well.


man I wish I had your work ethic / drive and skill!!!

I really don’t see why you wouldn’t be done for the cig run ;)


division1 01-07-2023 08:09 PM

  • I’ve seen your cafe you put work in that old girl to !!!!! Mine just snow balled into a lot. Problem with me I just can’t bring myself to do it in sections don’t get me wrong there is nothing wrong with that but I just want to get it done front to back and have it new !!! That being said we have been on the water every season with the 22 yahama witch has been a blast!!!!! I will definitely be working on it when I get it back but I will not wrench day and night to get it done lol I’ve learned nothing good happens that way lol I’ll just come hang out with you all and leave her home till next year and the bar is pretty high on the old girl so I don’t want to disappoint so I have to make sure it perfection on the rigging !!!!!

OldSchool 01-08-2023 05:02 AM

Who is doing the paint?

thisistank 01-08-2023 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by division1 (Post 4855207)
  • I’ve seen your cafe you put work in that old girl to !!!!! Mine just snow balled into a lot. Problem with me I just can’t bring myself to do it in sections don’t get me wrong there is nothing wrong with that but I just want to get it done front to back and have it new !!! That being said we have been on the water every season with the 22 yahama witch has been a blast!!!!! I will definitely be working on it when I get it back but I will not wrench day and night to get it done lol I’ve learned nothing good happens that way lol I’ll just come hang out with you all and leave her home till next year and the bar is pretty high on the old girl so I don’t want to disappoint so I have to make sure it perfection on the rigging !!!!!

:drink:
oh, I get it. I guess I should’ve added your patience to the list!!

division1 01-08-2023 06:03 PM

Oh trust me I have many moments /weeks of frustration!!!!

IGetWet 01-08-2023 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by division1 (Post 4855011)
We’ll back to the topgun. Coming down the home stretch all the logos are on the boat. They made some really nice hatch alignment things that when it closes it won’t shift or move when your running it’s transom painted rear of boat ready should be final color tomorrow. Then there going to move it to rig shop for cleats/rubrail/and hatches. It’s almost time to pick it up and start the final portion.. very excited

Love to see some pictures of what you came up with for hatch alignment.

division1 01-08-2023 09:44 PM

I’ll get some this week. I want the hatch atleast 1/2 clearance all the way around I don’t want it to rub anywhere. Once it’s home in my shop I plan on posting a ton of pics !!!!

division1 01-10-2023 02:26 PM

Ok have some prop questions. So my boat ran very well on 5 blade 28s regular b1 props. Know that was before all the cabin delete and adding about 150hp per engine. So was thinking about starting trials with 30p 5 blades. Does hering make a prop that works on a Konrad. I believe the konrads uses bravo one style prop. I read somewhere hering made some props for bravo drive and straight bottoms run well with them any thoughts or input appreciated

Knot 4 Me 01-10-2023 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by division1 (Post 4855485)
Ok have some prop questions. So my boat ran very well on 5 blade 28s regular b1 props. Know that was before all the cabin delete and adding about 150hp per engine. So was thinking about starting trials with 30p 5 blades. Does hering make a prop that works on a Konrad. I believe the konrads uses bravo one style prop. I read somewhere hering made some props for bravo drive and straight bottoms run well with them any thoughts or input appreciated

I remember the first Sunsation F-4, which was a 600/Bravo boat, started out on Herring 5-blades. Eventually ended up on Maximus 5-blades when delivered. It was fastest with the Herrings but I think it struggled to plane out with them.

bencini231 01-10-2023 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by division1 (Post 4855485)
Ok have some prop questions. So my boat ran very well on 5 blade 28s regular b1 props. Know that was before all the cabin delete and adding about 150hp per engine. So was thinking about starting trials with 30p 5 blades. Does hering make a prop that works on a Konrad. I believe the konrads uses bravo one style prop. I read somewhere hering made some props for bravo drive and straight bottoms run well with them any thoughts or input appreciated

Hering does make props for Bravo drives and I tried a set on my AT last year and they were very hard to get on plane with. I would go with Maximus or Max5 which is a Maximus with a short hub. I know our 2 boats are night and day apart but this is my experience so far. I wouldn't use the short hub if you need transom lift though. I have 2 sets of Maximus that FJ Propeller (Mike Eggleston) did some work on for me. Mine are 15" diameter now with short hub and they are perfect now for plaining, cruising and top end.

division1 01-10-2023 09:26 PM

Thanks !!! Keep the thoughts coming not looking for the absolute fasted last .1 mph. It looking for good plaining and cruise. The 5 blade prop definitely had better cruise over the 4 blade same top speed. I know the straight bottoms are kinda a different

Griff 01-10-2023 10:05 PM

I would use your 28" 5 blades that you have to get a baseline and then go from there.
That being said, it would not hurt to look for a few sets of different test props that that might work.
Pretty sure a lot of the new Merc props are still very hard to find in stock anywhere.
Every time I read anything about Herrings, its pretty much the same thing. Faster on the top end, but much harder to get on plane.

division1 01-11-2023 06:57 AM

That’s kinda what I’m reading to! I might look for a set of 380 tabs instead of the 280 I have as well.

ICDEDPPL 01-11-2023 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by division1 (Post 4855537)
That’s kinda what I’m reading to! I might look for a set of 380 tabs instead of the 280 I have as well.

gonna mount em horizontal ?

division1 01-11-2023 07:59 PM

I’d like to I have to see how much room I got to work with

division1 01-15-2023 07:29 PM

We’ll……. The time has come it’s finally out of paint. It’s been a long process since I started but the paint process was completely painless gave him a few color ideas and let him run with it and I have to say it is everything I could of asked for and more !!!!! Pics coming soon

division1 01-16-2023 07:01 PM

Ok explain something to me. How does the solenoid works on the bulkhead. So the battery positive cables go from the battery to the solenoid then from there to the battery switch’s. Is is some sort of
parallel solenoid to allow the motors to use both batteries to start and then go down to one? If so what activates it ? Starting to get things ready to go back in the boat. Replacing every word in the boat all new 0 gauge battery cables all new breakers everything it’s all going to be new so I want to do it all to the updates ways I should say lol any thoughts ?

AllDodge 01-17-2023 07:00 AM

The parallel solenoid does joint the 2 Bats if one is low, and its activated usually by a push button switch at the helm.
With this image, replace the house Bat with Eng 2


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Jim Diesel 01-17-2023 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by division1 (Post 4856254)
Ok explain something to me. How does the solenoid works on the bulkhead. So the battery positive cables go from the battery to the solenoid then from there to the battery switch’s. Is is some sort of
parallel solenoid to allow the motors to use both batteries to start and then go down to one? If so what activates it ? Starting to get things ready to go back in the boat. Replacing every word in the boat all new 0 gauge battery cables all new breakers everything it’s all going to be new so I want to do it all to the updates ways I should say lol any thoughts ?

The solenoid is actuated by either start push button on the helm, it parallels the batteries for more amps to turn over all those cubic inches!

division1 01-17-2023 12:58 PM

That’s kinda what I was wondering if it was activated when you hit the starter button. So if you didn’t have that and had the battery switches on all for starting wouldn’t that be the same ?

AllDodge 01-17-2023 02:31 PM

That would be the same if it worked as Diesel mentioned. All the ones I have seen have a separate momentary switch that is used only when combining Bats is needed. My Formula has a separate switch

DrFeelgood 01-17-2023 02:38 PM

My '91 Cafe Racer had the Parallel switch on the helm, next to the port/stbd starter switches, just to combine when/if needed.

ICDEDPPL 01-17-2023 03:55 PM

It`s easier to hit a switch at the helm then to keep switching the battery switches as mentioned.

Parrallel switch is lit up, I use it to start the engines and then turn it off, battery switch is just simple on/off

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division1 01-19-2023 03:04 PM

Ok for all you folks that have been following this build the start and those who are new to the thread let’s here your opinion good or bad lol on the final paint. I personally love it. The white is a ice white pearl and the black is a pearl as well. The boat name is the WHITE PEARL. Kinda like the black pearl from the Caribbean movies. This topgun has a few legends of its own to tell.

division1 01-19-2023 03:08 PM

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division1 01-19-2023 03:14 PM

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OldSchool 01-19-2023 03:19 PM

Beautiful!!!!!!!

F-2 Speedy 01-19-2023 03:27 PM

Simple and elegant.........very nice

division1 01-19-2023 04:06 PM

Thanks !! I wanted a simple but not plain colors all in all I’m excited to have it all shinny and ready for rigging

Got Cigs 01-19-2023 04:35 PM

:Score-101010:

tlark 01-19-2023 04:36 PM

agreed, simple color is all you need if a boat has good lines IMO. I think you nailed it and have enjoyed seeing the progress. Would love to see it at LOTO for the Cig Rendevous

thisistank 01-19-2023 05:21 PM

Awesome!!

Bfoodman 01-19-2023 05:33 PM

goal definitely achieved!!! It looks awesome.

Interceptor 01-19-2023 05:45 PM

Very nice, like the windscreen, graphics are perfect and not overdone

division1 01-19-2023 05:55 PM

Thanks guys !!!!!!


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