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triple 300s 05-07-2012 07:55 PM

very nice Eddie, very nice...950hp while shutting down... So will the boat be very fuel efficient at WOT? :boat:

TRL505 05-07-2012 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by triple 300s (Post 3681675)
My wife used to live in Neosho. lol

I think MCPRO banged her....:silenced:

triple 300s 05-07-2012 09:01 PM


Originally Posted by TRL505 (Post 3681945)
I think MCPRO banged her....:silenced:

and then you banged MCPRO...sloppy seconds...lmao

mcprodesign 05-08-2012 12:27 AM


Originally Posted by triple 300s (Post 3681981)
and then you banged MCPRO...sloppy seconds...lmao

It would take a fruit cake to even think of that

carcommander 05-08-2012 09:22 AM

I bet the motors will pull 1100 at WOT. You may want some bigger fuel tanks for your 42. I hope your drives will take that.

TRL505 05-08-2012 09:56 AM


Originally Posted by carcommander (Post 3682338)
I bet the motors will pull 1100 at WOT. You may want some bigger fuel tanks for your 42. I hope your drives will take that.

Lets not bring up the "drives"....cmon man...I need a breather here.

mcprodesign 05-08-2012 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by TRL505 (Post 3682365)
Lets not bring up the "drives"....cmon man...I need a breather here.

You probly know.. Reggies got some # 5s for sale .. Cheap. They look just like Dean's drives. ;)

triple 300s 05-08-2012 10:53 AM

I think a live video stream of the dyno room today is much needed....

SS930 05-08-2012 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by Young Performance (Post 3681862)
Just a quick update.

We finished the drivability. Everything worked great. We attempted to make an easy pull to only 5800 rpm. However, it rapidly ran out of fuel pump. With less than 7 psi of boost and only 5800 rpm, it still managed to make over 950 hp. We are headed back on the dyno in the am with a Weldon pump so we can pull it to where it needs to be.....about 6200-6300 rpm. I was trying an Aeromotive Eliminator pump. They have an Aeromotive A1000 in the boat now. The Eliminator is quite a bit larger than the A1000, so there is NO way the pump in the boat is even close to being large enough. I'm sure that contributed to some problems in the past.

I'll keep you guys posted as we make some pulls.
Eddie

They had a single A1000 feeding both engines in the boat, or were there twin A1000's?

If this is an EFI setup (I can't recall), even one A1000/engine will probably not be enough. If carbs, a single A1000/engine should easily support 1000+ hp... Assuming everything else in the fuel system is up to par.

Glad to see this is all coming together for summer!!! :cool:

TRL505 05-08-2012 12:08 PM

Engine #1 Results:

980HP @ 6000RPM....only 7lbs of boost.

Engine #2:
Being set up on dyno now. Gonna do a pully swap to get 9-10lbs....Stay Tuned!!!!!

triple 300s 05-08-2012 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by TRL505 (Post 3682500)
Gonna do a pully swap to get 9-10lbs....

I excitedly very much like this plan...

Griswald 05-08-2012 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by TRL505 (Post 3680631)
Ok...lets start making guesses on HP....lol. Motors will be run on 91 Octane.

1. 925-950
2. 950-975
3. 975-1000
4. 1000-1025
5. 1025+
6. Total Meltdown Chernoble Style

Place your bets gentleman....place your bets.

I win, so far.

mcprodesign 05-08-2012 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by TRL505 (Post 3682500)
Engine #1 Results:

980HP @ 6000RPM....only 7lbs of boost.

Engine #2:
Being set up on dyno now. Gonna do a pully swap to get 9-10lbs....Stay Tuned!!!!!

Haven't heard back since the pully change... Did she blow ? You could make this easier just by installing a go pro on the wall of the dyno room. :D Were's the live feed?

Young Performance 05-09-2012 12:11 AM

I kept him in suspense. We didn't change pulleys on the first engine. We saved it for the second one, since we beat on the first one pretty good getting it tuned. Figured we should beat on the second one just as much.

We started with the same pulley combo that the engines had on them when I got them. They had a 3.75" pulley on the blower. With that pulley, they made 983 hp @ 6000 rpm and 962 ft lbs @ 3700 rpm. This was at just under 7 psi of boost. The compression on these are pretty low (compared to what I normally run), so I knew going in that they would need some smaller pulleys to make good power.

We then dropped down to a 3.5" pulley. They then made 1021 hp @ 6000 rpm and 1046 ft lbs @ 4000 rpm. There were still only making 8.6 psi of boost.

I figure that we should be able to get away with about 10-11 psi of boost on 91 octane. With 93 octane, we could probably squeeze 13 psi.

So, with that being said, we put a smaller pulley on. I thought we had a 3.25" pulley, but it turned out to be a 3.125". At first I wasn't going to try it on 91 octane, but I figured what the hell. After putting it on, I realized the belt was really too long. I put as much tension on it that I could and gave it a shot anyway. I didn't have a ton of faith that the belt wouldn't slip. It started out good with the engine making just over 12 psi at 3500 rpm at the start of the pull. However, as the rpms increased, the boost went down, meaning the belt was slipping. As rpms go up, the belt stretches. It stretched so much that the spring loaded tensioner completely bottomed out causing the belt to get looser. At the end of the pull, the boost was down to 10 psi. Needless to say, the power wasn't what I wanted. At 3500 before the belt started slipping and it was making boost, it made over 1090 ft lbs of torque. I expect the power to be in the same area. At this point we were out of time, out of gas, and out of energy. The engines need to get crated and shipped in the next day or 2 if they have any chance of being in the boat and running by Memorial Day. We just couldn't wait another day to get a belt and do it again.

Since the 3.125" pulley puts the blower spinning a little higher than it's safe limit, we are going to get some 3.25" pulleys to put on. These should put the power in the 1060-1065 hp area, with torque being just a bit higher.

This should be quite a bit more than what was there before. Should make the boat run pretty good. I will post some pics once we get them all finished up and spit shined.

THanks everyone for following along. Also, thank you all for the compliments and words of incouragement. Believe me, it is much appreciated.
Eddie

BIGSLOW 05-09-2012 02:42 AM

This thread is awesome. I just read from start to finish tonight. Wow is all I can say.

Griswald 05-09-2012 04:28 AM


Originally Posted by Young Performance (Post 3683193)
We then dropped down to a 3.5" pulley. They then made 1021 hp @ 6000 rpm and 1046 ft lbs @ 4000 rpm. There were still only making 8.6 psi of boost.


Eddie

Do I still win? :party-smiley-004:


Nice job, Eddie.

TRL - we expect every bit of video you can muster when it comes to sea trial. A fly-by from Reggie's dock wouldn't be a bad idea either. Hope she's all you ever wished for at this point.

575cat 05-09-2012 07:13 AM


Originally Posted by Griswald (Post 3683217)
Do I still win? :party-smiley-004:


Nice job, Eddie.

TRL - we expect every bit of video you can muster when it comes to sea trial. A fly-by from Reggie's dock wouldn't be a bad idea either. Hope she's all you ever wished for at this point.

Yah the flyby SRs house with Sr and Eric running out of the bedroom with there robes on again screaming what the @#$% was that man that sounded good :lolhit: anyways great job Eddie you pulled another one off :daz::evilb:

triple 300s 05-09-2012 07:28 AM

very nice work!!!

-Are the new valve covers done? post some pics of those!

PARADISE ISLAND 05-09-2012 08:02 AM

Great job now how long till water test??ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!ZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!:evilb:

TRL505 05-09-2012 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by triple 300s (Post 3683284)
very nice work!!!

-Are the new valve covers done? post some pics of those!

+1 on the Valve Covers

And again, thank you Eddie. I bet you never in your wildest dreams thought you would be dealing with someone as twisted and phuckd up as me....lol.

At first I was a lil dissapointed with the 1020HP numbers (yes Griswald you win...lol). But after talking to you and having you explain the pulley/belt situation it makes perfect sense. I have no doubt that they will be 1050+ with the 3.25 pulley and a smaller belt.
The thing that I respected the most was that you were nothing but brutally honest with the numbers. You flat out told me "1020 is what I can tell you now". After all that my brother and I have gone through on this boat, and all the false promises and outright lies, I cant thank you enough for your honesty.
I cant wait to get the boat and run it with Sr/Lil R/Eddie. I texted Lil R last night and he is pumped.
I dont know if a video would be a good idea...as there is a very good chance that I may be naked during my entire visit to NC....unless you are like Dean and are into that kind of thing. :evilb:

TRL505 05-09-2012 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by BIGSLOW (Post 3683208)
This thread is awesome. I just read from start to finish tonight. Wow is all I can say.

I dont know if I should thank you....or kill you for that statement....:lolhit:

Its been a ride...thats for sure. Im scared to go back and re-read the whole thread....I was drunk when I made most of the posts...not quite sure what I said...:evilb:

Griswald 05-09-2012 11:45 AM

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575cat 05-09-2012 11:48 AM

Its going to be boring when this thread is done . So what about the additional water pickups ?

carcommander 05-09-2012 12:16 PM

It's ben fun watching Eddie's build. If you have 2 motors that will reliably pull over 1000hp you ought to be happy.

TRL505 05-09-2012 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by 575cat (Post 3683481)
Its going to be boring when this thread is done . So what about the additional water pickups ?

We elected to go ahead and have FPM install them. The are mounting them just outside the drives on the 2nd strake, and then doing a notched lead in I believe. We are running them through 2 small strainers and directly to the intercoolers.

So the way I understand it is the 1.5" notched pickup in the keel is feeding the large Intercooler, along with the drive pickups.

We also had them strip the big strainer that was painted blue and are having it chromed.

575cat 05-09-2012 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by TRL505 (Post 3683507)
We elected to go ahead and have FPM install them. The are mounting them just outside the drives on the 2nd strake, and then doing a notched lead in I believe. We are running them through 2 small strainers and directly to the intercoolers.

So the way I understand it is the 1.5" notched pickup in the keel is feeding the large Intercooler, along with the drive pickups.

We also had them strip the big strainer that was painted blue and are having it chromed.

After talking to Eddie I installed 2 adjustable pickups out on the lift strakes also for each intercooler [like the stock 700 boats ] and leave the main center one to feed the engines .

32Envision 05-09-2012 01:52 PM

I am glad Eric is finally almost straightened out here. I knew Eddie would be the man for the job. That 42 with 1000+ HP per side is going to fly at the Shootout! I can't wait!

TRL505 05-09-2012 02:01 PM

Thanks Guys!! I appreciate all the nice/supportive comments from everyone.

I cant wait to race Dean....and put him into the shoreline when he starts to pull me...lol.

triple 300s 05-09-2012 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 575cat (Post 3683513)
After talking to Eddie I installed 2 adjustable pickups out on the lift strakes also for each intercooler [like the stock 700 boats ] and leave the main center one to feed the engines .

That sounds like what they are doing...

They are also adding another for their yama-tail mod.

yschmidt 05-09-2012 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by TRL505 (Post 3683466)
+1 on the Valve Covers

And again, thank you Eddie. I bet you never in your wildest dreams thought you would be dealing with someone as twisted and phuckd up as me....lol.

At first I was a lil dissapointed with the 1020HP numbers (yes Griswald you win...lol). But after talking to you and having you explain the pulley/belt situation it makes perfect sense. I have no doubt that they will be 1050+ with the 3.25 pulley and a smaller belt.
The thing that I respected the most was that you were nothing but brutally honest with the numbers. You flat out told me "1020 is what I can tell you now". After all that my brother and I have gone through on this boat, and all the false promises and outright lies, I cant thank you enough for your honesty.
I cant wait to get the boat and run it with Sr/Lil R/Eddie. I texted Lil R last night and he is pumped.
I dont know if a video would be a good idea...as there is a very good chance that I may be naked during my entire visit to NC....unless you are like Dean and are into that kind of thing. :evilb:

Congratualations on your new additions. Still a little punkchy bout that homos from KS comment. :lolhit: Post up the dyno sheets so we can see the impressive numbers compared to the originals. Looking forward to hearing the boat performance compared to the last time you actually made it out and had something that resembled a great ride.

Young Performance 05-10-2012 12:00 AM


Originally Posted by TRL505 (Post 3683466)
And again, thank you Eddie. I bet you never in your wildest dreams thought you would be dealing with someone as twisted and phuckd up as me....lol.

At first I was a lil dissapointed with the 1020HP numbers (yes Griswald you win...lol). But after talking to you and having you explain the pulley/belt situation it makes perfect sense. I have no doubt that they will be 1050+ with the 3.25 pulley and a smaller belt.
The thing that I respected the most was that you were nothing but brutally honest with the numbers. You flat out told me "1020 is what I can tell you now". After all that my brother and I have gone through on this boat, and all the false promises and outright lies, I cant thank you enough for your honesty.

If you remember back to the first time we talked, I told you that if I'm nothing else, I'm honest. I will tell you the truth and tell you like it is. Now, it may not be what you want to hear, but it will be true and you can take it to the bank. I learned back when I was a kid that I was terrible at lying. I never could lie real good, so I just stopped trying. Sometime people get their feelings hurt, but at least they know where we stand.

It's been a fun project. Different at times, but fun none the less.:lolhit: Thank you
Eddie

mcprodesign 05-10-2012 12:13 AM


Originally Posted by Young Performance (Post 3684100)

It's been a fun project. Different at times, but fun none the less.
Eddie

LMAO !!:lolhit:

575cat 05-10-2012 07:29 AM

Think about it a measly 1000+ hp on pump gas and it will last how many hrs , Im sure Eddie can remember back when you could maybe get 50-100 ? hrs on a high hp engine . Its funny when people ask you how much power you have in your boat and you tell them and there eyes pop and then the blank look on theyre face its great , or they assume you got the big 454s in there dont ya .

TCBoss302 05-10-2012 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by 575cat (Post 3684202)
Think about it a measly 1000+ hp on pump gas and it will last how many hrs , Im sure Eddie can remember back when you could maybe get 50-100 ? hrs on a high hp engine . Its funny when people ask you how much power you have in your boat and you tell them and there eyes pop and then the blank look on theyre face its great , or they assume you got the big 454s in there dont ya .

+1, 99% have no clue.

TRL505 05-10-2012 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by 575cat (Post 3684202)
Think about it a measly 1000+ hp on pump gas and it will last how many hrs , Im sure Eddie can remember back when you could maybe get 50-100 ? hrs on a high hp engine . Its funny when people ask you how much power you have in your boat and you tell them and there eyes pop and then the blank look on theyre face its great , or they assume you got the big 454s in there dont ya .

So very true Dean...

TRL505 05-10-2012 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by mcprodesign (Post 3684105)
LMAO !!:lolhit:

WTF man??? LOL.

Man it sure would be nice to see some pics of the finished motors....hint hint. Or do you only do that for the "Hustler Homos?" :lolhit::eekdrop:

575cat 05-10-2012 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by TRL505 (Post 3684371)
WTF man??? LOL.

Man it sure would be nice to see some pics of the finished motors....hint hint. Or do you only do that for the "Hustler Homos?" :lolhit::eekdrop:

Dammed demanding people who the !@#$% do you think you are ????????? :daz:

TRL505 05-10-2012 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by 575cat (Post 3684503)
Dammed demanding people who the !@#$% do you think you are ????????? :daz:

Hey Dean, I probably asked you this already...but as you all know I drink a lot and forgot pretty much everything anyones tells me....but, what was the best speed you saw on your old setup with SCX uppers and SC lowers?

Slow Poke 05-10-2012 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by 575cat (Post 3684503)
Dammed demanding people who the !@#$% do you think you are ????????? :daz:

He acts like he is paying for all this stuff :eekdrop:

575cat 05-10-2012 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by TRL505 (Post 3684510)
Hey Dean, I probably asked you this already...but as you all know I drink a lot and forgot pretty much everything anyones tells me....but, what was the best speed you saw on your old setup with SCX uppers and SC lowers?

I was out of prop w stock 15 5/8 35 maximus props @6200 at about 115 , those were -2 sportmasters . I know its been so long who I asked who about what ? Im loosing it .


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