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Oh I get it,so now your trying not to let your mouth overload what you as: can't backup!!! I will say it again Apache CIG in anything above 5ft seas. I will quote anouther statement Apache comes alive in 10ft swells.
I wonder if Fountain can say that. Now remember I also said Fountain was the fastest smooth water boat,before you get all defensive and critique someone you do not know.

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Have you been Browsing this page: "Photo Links" for Photos and Videos Snielson???? :D :D :D

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you have a great website sharkey!

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I'm trying.... :D

Thanks!

If it's Hi-Performance, you will probably find it there... ;)

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isn't that the Fountain were the guy had owned it about all of 48 hours? I have several closeups of it. I believe he was thrown out. I also heard it was not insured. Really none of my business just curious. I believe it happened atleast 2 to 3 yrs ago.

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like i said before....i have the Fountain, what will you bring to the table? :rolleyes:

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Cool thread...first one I've read all the way through in a while. I'm a bit surprised at Mr. Reed's vitriol....dude...just relax...nobody's trying to shove a beak up your a$$.

Someday I wanna be Number 1, but old school Top Gun number 1.

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I told you 41 kevlar Apache 1100's :D

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If I had an open check book I'd have a 47' Apache with huge power and sixes in a second...But for now I'll stick with my straight bottomed top gun w/3A's....I'd never want either of those boats w/bravos! :drink:

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I think that in your Powerboat project boat update, they are replacing your 3A,s with Bravos.(next issue) :D

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i think there is a whole thread about his boat coming to loto, white lighting or something.... :drink: :D

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LMAO!!! Good stuff!!!!!! :D :evilb: :drink: :evilb:

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Read little man of hate.

"You may have heard, and it's all TRUE. Fountain has made alot of changes to the Fountain 38' Lightning, all 9,000+lbs of it. The new 38 has new bolsters, new cockpit layout, sliding door to cabin, 18" on center stagger set up. We ordered our boat which will be at MIAMI with Mercury 600SCI's, ITS, shorties and Herrings. The boat was tested today wth 5 people, 70 gallons of fuel and 45 degree temperature. I am happy to report that this boat ran 106MPH with this load. Be sure to stop by the FOUNTAIN booth and look at the new 38'."


Re: Fountain's new 38 does 106 with 600's?

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...5&postcount=10

Just want to help clear up some questions.

1) 109MPH with one person. Slow to get on plane.
2) 106 with five people and 70 gallons of fuel
3) Spacer put in to take lag out of coming on plane.
Will be tested again after MIAMI before it goes to new owners home. Should run consistant 104 with load.

http://www.boatmad.com/forum/images/smilies/bang.gif

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Fanatic,
Is that with 5 or 6 bladed Herings?

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The little fishing boats can!

"As has been said, these boats are just two different breeds and its a matter of picking what suits your needs.
I had a big learning curve when I bought my Fountain b/c I was used to 'rough = throttle back' on most hulls I had driven before. If you run a Fountain, you soon learn that 'rough = HAMMER DOWN'

On my first crossing to the islands with my new boat, my buddy boat was a 27 Contender with the exact power, twin 250 EFI Mercs. It was a SOLID 4-6 with the ever so often 'oh Sh*T' wave thrown in for good measure. I was struggling along at 20-22 knots and the ride was not good until this little voice in my head told me to heed my friends advice (he had turned me on to Fountains during my boat search).

So I did what he told me should be done, I dropped the tabs all the way down, told everyone to hang on (6 people total and gear/stuff for a week) and buried the throttles.

All of a sudden we were zinging across the top of the waves at 31 knots and the constant pounding subsided to an occasional BANG on the odd 7+ footer. My friend looked over at me with a "WOW!" look on his face and I knew right then and there I had made a good choice. About 10 minutes later my buddy boats hails me and tells me he can't keep up. So it was run for 30 minutes, slow to trolling speed, wait for him to catch up, repeat. When we got within 12 miles of West End, I radioed my buddy boat and told him I wanted to see what this boat can do, so I completely DUMPED the throttles and came into WE at 38 knots in 4-6. Probably could have done better with less of a load. And, once we got into WE, I checked the boat, no stress cracks, no kinks, etc. Toilet seat lid did come loose though...

http://outdoorsbest.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=240274

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Wow! :cool:

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We usually go out in cat 5 hurricanes and 50 ft plus swells ! Hey wana see my dick? http://www.boatmad.com/forum/images/...likeadrain.gif

Sorry couldn't help myself...

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Sorry, I am not sure.

You could pm him and ask.
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...5&postcount=10

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F^CKING priceless..............i never read the White Lighting Thread thread until now.....


nice rig Travis :cool:

but i still stick to my guns on a Fountain breaking in half :cool: :D :evilb:

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I really did see 1 snap probably the driver though. I also saw one come apart at LOTO. I actually like fountain alot,just trying to have some fun. Thanks again for the compliment.

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That's a great looking license plate you have there, Mr Tonto :D

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sound like they really have it dialed in.I never said I wasn't a fountain fan,just seen a couple come apart real bad.Might have been the driver.

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Might not have been the driver... :eek:

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Travis Reed-
Obviousley you didnt read my very first post when I told you that. And I dont back down from anyone I tryed to be cool but... When was the last time one of your 1989 sorry ass Apaches won anything... ya exactly.

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When was the last time you saw Open Ocean Racing? Well, that's what they were designed for. Step up to this kind of water and you will understand what an Apache is all about.

http://secure.offshoreonly.com/movie...Challenge.html

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Those were the days :drink:

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Dont worry Fountains reign at the top of the racing circuit will
come to an end just like the builders before him.
Some up and comer will build a better mouse trap.
D.W. :cool: comes to mind but we'll save that for another thread.

A little anger in your post? :p You know as well as every other
person on this board Apaches are far from being "sorry ass".

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If your trying to be cool SHUT YOUR MOUTH!!!! Kids also read this website,try setting an example. Grow up APACHE dominates the big stuff,Or mabey your having trouble reading the other posts!!!!

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Why dont you two get a room ? :rolleyes:

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You obviously do not know this guy. We had real, weather service reported Lake Michigan style short spaced 6-8's last summer in August and Parnell was tearing it up. He was the only other boat I saw on the lake that day. It's hard for me to say how fast he was going but I could only muster about 50 getting our azz beat going with the waves heading south on Lake Michigan and he was throwing a full rooster balls out going north into them. It was the most awesome thing I have ever seen on the water.

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More love on OSO :p :evilb: :rolleyes:

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I was in "Geronimo" , the 41' Apache with Sean Stinson driving the boat in good 4-6 footers running pretty hard...maybe 75mph and that thing was chewing up the water and spitting it out.
I have never been in a boat like it in rough water.

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Nice Smart Azz picture there, Tonto!

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I was in Parnell's 41 in 4 to 6 foot seas on Lake Michigan in the winter of 2004....AND I have the video to prove it. There was 5 of us all wearing snowmobile gear with helmets going 80 across some of the nasties!! WHAT A RUSH!! I could barely manage to keep the video camera going. Parnell send me your e-mail addy and I will send you the vid and you can post it on here....Parnell + his boat = MONSTER!!! :evilb: :D :D

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Post it!

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travis, you need a longer driveway... :drink: :eek:

i was driving down 3rd street and saw this huge apache next to somebodys house and turned down the street and saw white lighting sitting there... :D

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you have to post that video!!! going across Mich in the winter in snowmobile suits........"PRICELESS" :evilb:

ONLY AN OSO MEMBER WOULD DO THAT!!

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Hey, they're trying to make the boat better...Not worse!! :eek: :drink:

And by the way with the whole Fountain vs. Apache vs. Cigarette vs. etc. etc. etc.

I think there are some facts that no one can deny...Apache is the best rough water (big water) offshore boats ever made. Fountain is the fastest built hull (for now :D ) and in my personal opinion following Apache is Cigarette for rough water. other than that, it's just egos and a pissing contest.

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i think that video is already on another thread here.... :cool: :cool: try a search