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Old 05-06-2008 | 01:04 PM
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Just a couple of weeks ago I was on the water and saw a 24 utra deck boat cruising at about 20mph trying to keep the nose up so not to take on water over the bow. It was a calm day for the apache. Obviously a skater, MTI, and others wouldn't have that problem, but not everyone drives a big skater. SO what may be true for the bigger race boats may not be for these smaller lake boats. In the 24ft range I doubt there is any cat that can match a 24 pantera in the rough.
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Old 05-06-2008 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater
Just a couple of weeks ago I was on the water and saw a 24 utra deck boat cruising at about 20mph trying to keep the nose up so not to take on water over the bow. It was a calm day for the apache. Obviously a skater, MTI, and others wouldn't have that problem, but not everyone drives a big skater. SO what may be true for the bigger race boats may not be for these smaller lake boats. In the 24ft range I doubt there is any cat that can match a 24 pantera in the rough.
While I agree there is no inboard cat worth a damn under about 28-30 feet in rough water...the twin outboard 24 Skaters will hold there own against the 24' Pantera, Magnum, Superboat, P&G,...etc... hulls with inboard or outboard power, and the record book proves this with multiple championships going to the Skaters over many years. IMHO there is not another cat hull of that size that would dare to tackle the water that the little Skater can run in.....

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Old 05-06-2008 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by T2x
So this "insurance person" is saying that a cat accident at 80 mph will have 3 times the damage than a vee accident at 80 mph? Unless the cat is made in some God awful place like California....that's horsefeathers. But it does raise a good point...There have been some terrible Cat designs that bow steer, or are tragically overpowered...or both....made in the land of fruits and nuts that might be the cause of a lot of this insurance issue. I wonder, if you broke down these accidents by manufacturer and length, would the data make more sense?

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Not disagreeing with you, if your speed reference is 80. They will gladly insure you for an 80 mph cat, and the cost would not be triple. In fact, it would be quite reasonable. They refer to those cats as "starter cats". It doesn't seem like an 80 mph cat would be worth the bother. The reference speed I gave him was 120, hence, the disparity in rates.

I agree that it would be interesting to see the breakdown by manufacturer, but I doubt there is enough accident data to come up with anything statistically significant. The marine insurance companies appear to have lumped all cats together, and broken them out only by top speed.

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Old 05-06-2008 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by T2x
While I agree there is no inboard cat worth a damn under about 28-30 feet in rough water...the twin outboard 24 Skaters will hold there own against the 24' Pantera, Magnum, Superboat, P&G,...etc... hulls with inboard or outboard power, and the record book proves this with multiple championships going to the Skaters over many years. IMHO there is not another cat hull of that size that would dare to tackle the water that the little Skater can run in.....

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It's still a cat, so how do they keep from slapping the bridge? While it might hold it's own, how do you keep from getting pounded to death?

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Old 05-06-2008 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael1
It's still a cat, so how do they keep from slapping the bridge? While it might hold it's own, how do you keep from getting pounded to death?

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Forget it.......T2x is still living back in the 80's!!! If he could....he'd have a mullet!
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Old 05-06-2008 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by PhantomChaos
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Forget it.......T2x is still living back in the 80's!!! If he could....he'd have a mullet!
Thats not fair Nort. Some of us never left the '80s and if we didn't learn there there would be no OSO
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Old 05-06-2008 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by BLee
I had a fuse blow at 110 when I first got the Skater, thus killing the power to that side. It just settled down and came off plane. Here's me and Bruce Bullock trying to figure out which fuse it was.
Jeez, Bruce looks like BSchoe.....a lot.
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Old 05-06-2008 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Brad Zastrow
It gets old hearing how great V's are in the rough and cats can not run. Watch an offshore race.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6uNw...eature=related
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Old 05-06-2008 | 09:28 PM
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I'd rather do that endo in a cat than a Vee..
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Old 05-06-2008 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Cash Bar
I'd rather do that endo in a cat than a Vee..
I'd rather not do it at all.
That cat upset very easy.
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